In China, Brazilian President Tries to Keep WTO Talks’ Flame Alive

    Lula meets Jintao in China

    Lula meets Jintao in China The Brazilian minister of Foreign Relations, Celso Amorim, stated that the result of the latest meeting of the Doha Round, held in Geneva, should have a negative effect on the world food crisis. According to him, the main issue that might harm production in poor countries is subsidized production of agricultural commodities in wealthy countries.

    f"The relation between the agreement and the food crisis resides in the matter of subsidies. This is not the only issue, but it is the main one. When farmers are subsidized in the United States or Europe, production in impoverished countries is discouraged," explained the minister, this Thursday, July 7, during an interview granted to radio stations at the studios of the Brazilian Communication Company.

    "Investment by the productive sector depends on market incentives. What the Doha Round does is create a positive environment for encouraging investors. If it fails, then this encouragement does not take place."

    The minister refrained from using the term 'failure' to describe the negotiations, as the Brazilian government does not consider that conversations are over with other countries, in order to close multilateral deals that will ensure good working conditions for farmers in emerging countries.

    President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva himself, who is on a trip to Beijing, where he will attend the opening of the Olympic Games, discussed the matter with the president of China, Hu Jintao, and intends to make a telephone call to the prime minister of India, Manmohan Singh, in an attempt to resume negotiations.

    Last week, Lula discussed the matter by telephone with the president of the United States, George W. Bush. In the opinion of Amorim, even though the lack of an agreement might cause serious damage to Brazil, the country is still able to compete on an international level better than impoverished nations are.

    "Brazil might even be able to resist, to face these subsidies, although they will do us serious damage. We went to the WTO World Trade Organization to complain about them. But there are countries poorer and with less resources than Brazil, countries that do not count on an Embrapa (Brazilian Agricultural Research Corporation) as Brazil does, and countries that are unable to go up against the subsidized production of wealthy nations."

    "It is a paradox. There is an element that could even be used as a food aid, however it creates a dependency, an inability of poorer countries to cater to their own demand, or to the demand of other countries," asserted the minister.

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    • dnbaiacu

      Coburg
      [quote]But right now,it is time for Brazilians to enjoy the best Olympics the planet has ever seen, and reflect upon its future, the forthcoming age of Enlightment under a new world order. [/quote]
      You are dreaming. 🙂

    • jon

      Joao,

      I could not obtain a security pass to the games like Ch C..will have to contend to watch Marta run circles around the Canuck soccer ladies. Oh well, a silver is not too bad 😉 😉

    • ch.c.

      “According to him, the main issue that might harm production in poor countries is subsidized production of agricultural commodities in wealthy countries. ”
      So right for the coffee farmers Brazil heavily subsidizes, when these beans ar not even grown in developed countries.
      And what about the US$ 55 billion loans provided by your BNDES at at much lower subsidized rate a ?
      Wellll 75 % are for the minority commercial farmers, and only 25 % for the 5 miilions or so of family farmers.

      For coffee, lets face it, your subsidizes are against other emerging or poors nations coffee producers.
      But….silence, not a word ever on that subject.

      Ohhhhh and what about your partner : China ?
      Are they NOT subsidizing MOST of their industries and not only their agriculture ???

      Brazil go very well along with China.
      Thus feel free to feed them as much as you could, because curiosuly not only Brazil bars many Chineses products due to their cheaper prices, But China also doesnt import some agricultural foods from Brazil…..to protect their own farmers !!!!

      Why doesnt Brazil says to China : “stop subsidizing your industries, so that Brazil can take market share…..with our own subsidizes !!!!”

      Quite fair in Brazilians views !

    • João da Silva

      Jon
      Are you in Beijing too?
      😀

    • João da Silva

      Forrest
      You kept your visit to Beijing as a state secret and I resent this fact.You could have told us beforehand so that we might have considered joining you. I lodge my protests.

      However, instead of spending $8000 to go to Beijing, we watched the opening on the TV. I must confess that it was indeed a spectacular show, though it took about 4 hrs and 15 minutes. Since it started at 9 A.M., our time, I did not open cans of cold ones and had to stick just to plain water.

      [quote]C.HC you know more about brasilian budget this place took 40 billion US to build .
      and took 125.000 people to build it .what is the budget this year for brasil[/quote]

      You better ask Ch.c this question in person, as I saw him on the TV leading the Swiss delegation.I could not understand why the entire team of Swiss athletes(including men) were wearing Red skirts.Please do clarify this important issue and give us his reply.

      [quote]i could get in real trouble here QUICK [/quote]

      No, you are not going to get into any trouble. Let Fatima take the lead and deploy her diplomacy.

      [quote]they do have about every type of food you could ever think of to eat , just dont know how safe the street food is here now . [/quote]

      It is safe to eat, but ensure that you eat more rice noodles, vegetables and fruit.Bean sprouts are pretty good food too.

      [quote]have a good one nap time[/quote]

      Thanks and you too. Keep us informed.

      Another question: On the local TV, they were saying that the opening was emphasising on 4 important inventions by the Chinese a) Paper b) Gun Powder c) Compass d) I could not make out in English. In Portuguese it is supposed to be Pergaminho. What is it in English?

      You take care and realx. You might decide to extend your stay in China, like a friend of mine did last year.

    • forrest allen brown

      ok it was a nice show
      still you cant breath in deep

      dont know how the futbal players will do it air is so thick it is like breathing through a feather duster the most part .

      your room has a water air trap to clean the air works

      they have a dress code here for walking down the streets
      no political clothes of any type , no more than 6 people can stand and talk in one place at a time .
      no blocking the streets or building doors , handing out papers that voice opinon on politices

      i could get in real trouble here QUICK

      they do have about every type of food you could ever think of to eat , just dont know how safe the street food is here now .
      before i was in guydong it was good but here have not seen any ice to keep the dead meat fresh ?????

      so we ate lunch at a place where they kill it in front of you , just a chicken with rice and bean sprouts ,

      tonight the city lights are grate

      have a good one nap time

    • Coburg

      anti-imperialists in the new world-order – China is already watching
      The forces at the core leading forward two of the emerging giants’ great cause are their respective Communist Parties; even where itÀ¢€™s no longer officially in power.

      The theoretical basis guiding their thinking remains Marxism-Leninism, despite the current, fancy imperialist surfaces, which in the end, will be shed like a dragonˢ۪s skin, so that their peoples can fully embrace the return of the true cause and resume the true path.

      Since the successful national revolutions, there have been, naturally, communist parties in both great nations, without which the Marxist-Leninist revolutionary theory would not have been developed and inculcated into so many for so long. Once the dialectical forces inevitably trigger the materialistic carcass to drop, a new reformed covering will emerge based on its true foundation, as set by the wisdom of Lenin and Mao.

      But right now,it is time for Brazilians to enjoy the best Olympics the planet has ever seen, and reflect upon its future, the forthcoming age of Enlightment under a new world order.

    • forrest allen brown

      FYI
      1 hour and 45 munits before the games and still standing in line to make it to the bird nest .
      dont bring any thing with you to the games as the 50.000 police will searcr you 3 different times before you enter the bird nest or any other stadium .
      no cars are allowed with in 500 meters of any building . it is about a 30 munit walk to the place from the last guard post .
      there are also 50.000 under cover cops here also .

      as far as pictures well only at the games none of the police or guard gates , no military bases no computers , raidoes , large vido camreas unless you have a press pass and you have to go to the other gate

      hotel room is 225 US a day food about 65 a day , our transulator 100 a day plus tickets to the games plane fare from tonga
      i will have about 8000 us into the games .

      another thing the VIP road is guarded with troops with ak 47 and sks 36 plus the hind helo.

      C.HC you know more about brasilian budget this place took 40 billion US to build .
      and took 125.000 people to build it .what is the budget this year for brasil

    • João da Silva

      [quote]The Brazilian minister of Foreign Relations, Celso Amorim, stated that the result of the latest meeting of the Doha Round, held in Geneva, should have a negative effect on the world food crisis.[/quote]

      I agree. Negative effect,because the talks were held in Geneva, where too many interfering Swiss citizens trying to scuttle the “Talks”. IMHO, the next round should be held in Doha itself.I think that our Prez and his Minister should stress on this fact. 😀

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