All Is Peaceful in Rio, Brazil, After a 25-dead Bloody Tuesday

    Police agents in Rio, Brazil, on favela shootout

    Police agents in Rio, Brazil, on favela shootout After a day that saw 25 people dead, most of them gang members according to the Brazilian police, the situation seems to be under control, this morning, April 18, in the Mineira Hill, a favela close to downtown Rio de Janeiro. The area has been taken over by men of the Military Police's Special Operations Battalion (BOPE), who promise to stay there indefinitely.

    "No dead is innocent," the BOPE commander, lieutenant-colonel Coelho Neto, said yesterday, while talking about the 13 people who were killed at the Mineira hill, in Catumbi, close to downtown Rio. The police say traffickers of two rival gangs exchanged shots there while fighting to get the best drug sale spots in the Mineira favela.

    Police say they moved into the area and ended up shutting down main roads to end the traffickers' war. It is still not known how many deaths were caused by police fire. There were, however, several bystanders who were injured by stray bullets.

    Six men charged with trafficking also died during an early morning shootout on Tuesday, April 17, at another favela in the Bangu neighborhood, in Rio's west side.

    After Tuesday night's shootings the number of dead had gone up to 25 people. Three shootouts between gang members and the military police left 4 dead and three wounded in Rio and the neighboring communities of Baixada, Belford Roxo and Nova Iguaçu. Another shootout at Chapadão hill, in the city's north zone, left a man dead and three injured.

    Jorge Barbosa, 48, a police investigator, who worked for the DRCPIM (Bureau to Repress Crimes Against Immaterial Property) was killed with several shots a few minutes after leaving the police bureau. He apparently was shot while reacting to a robbery in the Benfica neighborhood.

    According to witnesses, four men surrounded the policeman. After shooting Barbosa, they fled on his red GM Astra. The police agent died while being taken to a hospital.

    A man suspect of being a drug trafficker was also killed in the Baixada Fluminense after another shootout with the military police. The police say that they were shot at when they arrived to investigate informations that a gang was selling drugs in the area. 

    While one suspect was shot and died on his way to the hospital, his colleagues escaped leaving behind four communication radios, three revolvers, 175 cocaine baggies and 66 small bundles of marijuana.

    Another man suspect of being a trafficker was killed by police in Nova Iguaçu, also in the Baixada Fluminense.

    Still another victim was a retired man who had just left a bank. He was killed Tuesday afternoon while resisting an assault. A civilian policeman who saw the robbery shot at the assailants killing one of the them.

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    • AES

      What do they have to lose? Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and their lives.
      What do they have to lose? Their lives, their Swiss bank accounts, everything they have or will ever have.

    • AES

      DITTOS
      Cudos, well done. One favella at a time, the war is on, special forces, night vision, visitations while sleeping. Overwhelming force. God’s speed.

    • Simpleton

      Gratsi
      You know E, underneath it all you don’t seem to be the dislikeable type you’ve been made out to be. I think certainly there’s likely to be things most would wish you did give a s*it about, but hey – you are you and you’re okay with that (unless criticised of course). As to pistoleiros em carros (some of which may be your homeboys?) the presumed motive heard most used in your hood is that it’s possibly drug related (not gang related) and you can bet those driving / shooting aren’t crack addicts themselves (although they demonstrate having burned out anything resembling a brain and human spirit by some method or another – probably thier nurture or nature ne’?) So what’s the best police investigation come up with in a majority of those cases? Absolutely Nada – just seems more the same than different to me although you / others claim that in Brazil they don’t even investigate anything. Just for grins let’s be a bit less vigorous – round up the numbers of homicides to 200 per year (to make up for 911 service and the huge huge impact that municiple services, roadways and hospital quantities per capita make) and round down the population to 500,000 (since the wealthy don’t live right next to the non and the rural fringe folks don’t risk being a random mark so much as others). That’s 40 per 100K. Making me feel safer and safer everyday with this don’t give a f* attitude. I’d rather go there where the vast majority of neighbors do give a f* while still being true to the live and let live philosophy. Can you be taught that just because someone points a gun at you doesn’t mean they mean to do you harm which is something you can’t say applies here?

    • e harmony

      [quote]mIND bOGGLING
      written by Simpleton, 2007-04-22 10:07:35
      [/quote]

      Continued from above:

      As far as the rest of your fat mouthing B.S. You know what I was referring to by “trivila,” it was the collective amount of issues and disagreements, some of which even revolve around soap opras, it was not meant to imply tragedy and suffering by others is trivial.

      That said, yeah, you did make a threat of murder for hire. But you need not worry, because I’m not worried about you. But it needed to be pointed out because for one, it was f*ckin stupid, and for two, you’ve got to be one dumb f*ckin hillbilly to think just because I’m quiet about something I’m thinking two steps behind you.

      Don’t worry about if I care to eradicate violence in the U.S. or not. Maybe, just maybe, I don’t give a f*ck. Remember, I know people in prison, I know people that have murdered, in fact I know a person quite serious about the fact that if anyone ever crosses him, he’ll torture their children or loved ones to death (he doesn’t use crack cocaine by the way).

      I don’t know much, but what I do know is, I have family connections to law enforcement; What I do know is, I know good and peaceful people and I know ruthless people; What I do know is, this world is built on ties, and sometimes those ties may or may not revolve around indebtedness; What I do know is, I’m always [b]taught[/b] on here with a [i]teaching[/i] of vigor, that so many in Brazil have so little money, and that the gangs and thugs in Brazil are so ruthless and will do just about anything for a little cash, I’m [b]taught[/b] on here with a [i]teaching[/i] of vigor, that the police never investigate nothin in Brazil; What I do know is, rules according to the U.S. streets, when a n*gga opens his mouth about his homeboys in context to doing you or yours harm, he’s just implicated and involved his homeboys whether his homeboys care to be involved or not; What I do know is, who I know is who the f*ck I know and that stays with me, especially if some of them are white and international types of people; What I do know is… the day a n*gga wants to jump some sh*t off, the party can keep going, until the party is completely over; What I do know is, the best way to live to avoid undue drama in one’s life is [b]to live and let live[/b].

      I’m not a paranoid cat, Simpleton, but a more paranoid cat would remember you between now and the next 20 years if even a car just brushed by him to close, or if any thing ever happened to anyone he knows.

      I don’t f*ck with no one. I might disagree with someone on something or even get into a heated debate with them, but ultimately I leave people to live their lives and or persue (sp?) an enjoyable life as best fits them so long as they are not harming anyone else. I find this is good way to be, cuts down on drama, and allows everyone their own personal space and private freedom. Maybe if more people left people the f*ck alone the world would be a peaceful place. I mean I’ve got my own problems and issues, and I could bring them to bear a burden on other people (in a real way) if I so made that choice to do so. But I don’t, I keep my problems and my issues to myself. For a person to enter that world of problems and issues, wherein they become aware of the degree to which I don’t give a f*ck about going to jail or dieing, they would have to come kicking at that metaphorical door [b]uninvited[/b], of my world. In other words they would have to be a dumb-f*ck that likes to kick up drama where ever they go, as though in this big huge world, with all it’s open space, they don’t have enough elbow room.

      Live and let live. Leave certain doors closed. Because you come banging on some doors, you might find, when the door opens, it’s more than you bargained for.

    • e harmony

      [quote]mIND bOGGLING
      written by Simpleton, 2007-04-22 10:07:35
      [/quote]

      Anyone that knows anything about U.S. urban life knows that few crack addicts own guns or commit homicides per use of firearms. Most of the crack addicts in prison are [b]non-violent[/b] offenders. This is what gives evidence to most of your commentary on Brazil being b*llsh*t. You attempt to frame most U.S. homicides as being carried out by crack addicts, a category of people who from the sociological stand point carry low prestige if not shunning in current society, this way you attempt to draw an image of firearm related violence as being carried out by an extremely “abnormal” group in the U.S. whereas, no doubt, you would try to frame Brazilian firearm related violence as being carried out by a much more “normal” segment of the population.

      In the U.S. [b]few[/b] active gang members involved at even the smallest profitable level of the drug trade, and few non-gang member thugs involved in crime for profit, use crack cocaine. In fact outside of selling the drug, it is highly disdained by this category of people. What cocaine use you can very well find this category of people indulging in are two types of usage: 1) Snorting powder cocaine. 2) Lacing powder cocaine on their personal blunts.

      Crack addicts in the United States (and I’m sure else where in the world) can blow through a few hundred dollars in a matter of a few hours (maybe even a couple hours). Consequently many well sell all the food in their house, their tv’s and stereos, washers, dryers, the wood in the house and almost every article of clothing their children own. To suggest most or many crack addict holds on to a valuable object like a firearm is laughable to the point of being hysterical. By-in-large a crack addict in the United States [i]is the most likely to beg you for money or try and hustle you for money[/i] but they are by-in-large [i]the least likely to shoot anyone[/i]. True, there are some violent and career criminal crack-heads, but most of them were so before they started using crack and they are a tiny minority of crack cocaine addicts. Few people in U.S. hoods “fear” crack-heads… who they “fear” most are gangsters and other non-crack cocaine users.

      Continued Below…

    • Simpleton

      spelling
      YOU’RE MORE ON

    • Simpleton

      mIND bOGGLING
      It is moronic to think that the NON-trivial issues in Brazil and elsewhere are something to just blow off. Although I enjoyed plinking squirrels with a 22LR from roughly a half mile using a 2.5x scope (got quite good at it actually), don’t cha think E that it’s a bit prejudiced / presumptuous to jump to the conclusion that the BOPE would sign me or anyone else up to take up an assasins position on the opposing slope or roof of a nearby condo? There’d be one heck of a cry from more than just the folks making thier bucks off the tourism industry there. So what’s really with you – don’t like the folks living down the block with the 50-60 thousand dollar cars? Can’t stand that the drive by’s are mostly being done by the pistol toteing crack heads in your town and take out more innocents than they do other crack heads? How’re the boys in blue in MKE doing with thier war? Been visiting your neighbors to take out the top end of the problem or just scurrying the strawberries along over at the hot spot a couple times each month?

      Guess I didn’t really know how little it took to get a conspiracy theory started with some folk. In my life I’ve only met one human animal that I felt for the good of all was in need of killing and I hope to never meet another. As to prejudism – E that’s clearly your bag not mine. Go ahead and scratch it if that feels good to you – it does take all types in this world and we’re each entitled to our preferences. Doesn’t mean we all have to like yours. So what’s a little trivial (albeit a bit twisted / demented) fun poking at anonamous imposters got you all sweaty and up tight about?

      YOUR MORON

    • e harmony

      [quote]Worth doing a drive by tonight me thinks
      written by Simpleton, 2007-04-20 03:58:37

      being a knock off: cracker rap.(E) (All take care and beware the pianoman outbid my imaginary wager – he’s intent on coming there and will be of more harm than good to y’all.)

      FOreverest,, I’ve heard what you’ve said, seen where you be coming from. From the very first time I saw your posts I’ve known that you’re right – SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED KILLING.[/quote]

      Are you a moron by nature or do you just have to work hard at it? Your threat to contract murder, to involve your friends or associates on this site*, in a murder for hire plot or consideration is noted. Take it easy fruitloop, disagreements on trivila sh*t about Brazil or the U.S. is not that major, stop getting your panties in a twist. Go back to your homoerotic affairs.

      *[i]meaning the several people you associate with on the forum via common mind set and prejudice (be that prejudice me or other)[/i].

    • Simpleton

      Worth doing a drive by tonight me thinks
      being a knock off: cracker rap.(E) (All take care and beware the pianoman outbid my imaginary wager – he’s intent on coming there and will be of more harm than good to y’all.)

      FOreverest,, I’ve heard what you’ve said, seen where you be coming from. From the very first time I saw your posts I’ve known that you’re right – SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED KILLING.

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      how stupid is this one
      “Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. À¢€“ Unless there is life there can be no murder.”

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      6X9 NVM
      22-250 would be a fun one to use
      and can be very quiet on the favela front
      no big blod pools head shot ever time
      clean quite and if some one gave pic of the most wanted off with there heads .

      now some of you will give us a bunch of greff over this
      BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED KILLING
      to save the ones whom live by the rules of the land and get wasted by thoes whom dont and dont care about whom they take with them .

      when the law abading citizen is killed and the laywer says my clients rights
      you give up thoes rights as soon as you pull the trigger
      you have to live with what you have done not want the law to save you then

      like JEUS IS COMMING LOOK BUSY

    • e harmony

      [quote]written by e harmony, 2007-04-19 16:41:18
      Synatx is an interesting thing. I’ve read that same faux poetic, psudeointellectual, drivel before.[/quote]

      By read before, I mean a person under a [i]different[/i] handle wrote with the same style.

    • e harmony

      [quote]Visual Frame of Reference
      written by Simpleton, 2007-04-19 04:15:25

      Just for E=harm should see humanity as it twere beyond his frame of reference and where he care to go or be. There where peoples live for this or for what they have not, tis but a moments plight and naught all live in fright.

      E-Harm, as it is unlikely you have or would ever go back street, out on foot (or by donkey cart which is traveling in style!!) to the poor suburbs and be able to take in and ken the world I’ve seen there, here’s a description of where in the vail of Catumbi the cabbie prefers to stop and take you no farther that I’m certain that you can relate to – think of it as an urban cross roads more or less, best done in the day time. Nice enough then and not unpretty. It would seem something more like the hot spot at Atkinson and 27th than some x at 12th-20th and Vliet but in any case not flat, it’s aligned along the beginnings of a steep slope. You can walk or drive farther up around and over on mostly cobblestoned streets with concreted foot paths cutting through here and there. On the far side on the foot paths you will find the best vantage point views of the J statue and cutting around and down from there one of the most murderous morros. Gotta love the diversity and your neighbors (even if they point guns at you).[/quote]

      Yawn.

      Synatx is an interesting thing. I’ve read that same faux poetic, psudeointellectual, drivel before. I chalk it up to being a knock off: cracker rap.

    • Simpleton

      Laser Marking
      Forrest, it’s an idea but maybe one that doesn’t work just like everything and 80% of everybody else. Heck, the velocidade cameras are beginning to pay off even off those that drive professionally, know where they are (obvious as heck) and have been burned by them before – idiots will be idiots. Give me 2x to 3x your 1200m throw and accuracy down to body width and I’d be happy to retire and make a lifetimes work out of making a dent in the situation.

      Should someone care to scrutinize the local info and pin point the BOPeBOP positions and intended permanent occupancy you will probably find they aren’t / weren’t in Mineira Favela proper, just close by. Even the army is not ready to take that.

    • Simpleton

      By the byway
      Almost forgot, down hill is one of the major campuses so of course just like Mad City there’s plenty of upscale consumers that make the prime traffic territory on the main thoroughfares lucrative. Seems more I think I see there are differences the more I see things are much the same, just different.

    • Simpleton

      Visual Frame of Reference
      Just for E=harm should see humanity as it twere beyond his frame of reference and where he care to go or be. There where peoples live for this or for what they have not, tis but a moments plight and naught all live in fright.

      E-Harm, as it is unlikely you have or would ever go back street, out on foot (or by donkey cart which is traveling in style!!) to the poor suburbs and be able to take in and ken the world I’ve seen there, here’s a description of where in the vail of Catumbi the cabbie prefers to stop and take you no farther that I’m certain that you can relate to – think of it as an urban cross roads more or less, best done in the day time. Nice enough then and not unpretty. It would seem something more like the hot spot at Atkinson and 27th than some x at 12th-20th and Vliet but in any case not flat, it’s aligned along the beginnings of a steep slope. You can walk or drive farther up around and over on mostly cobblestoned streets with concreted foot paths cutting through here and there. On the far side on the foot paths you will find the best vantage point views of the J statue and cutting around and down from there one of the most murderous morros. Gotta love the diversity and your neighbors (even if they point guns at you).

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      BOPE LOST HER SHEEP AND DONT KNOW WHERE TO FIND THEM
      DO A DOCTOR EVIL
      camras on street lights with lazers not to kill but just to burn them so they can be picked up later.

      or get one of thoes neet toys from the US military that can just fly around and watch with camra , pull a raid and see where they run then go in and get them .

      unlike porto rico , had a bad building across from the police station and all the time they took hits from the building . they did not go in and stop it they moved the police station .
      8 years later it being a public building and paied for by the tax payers for the USA it was imploded

    • ch.c.

      but….but….but…….
      The Military Police’s Special Operations Battalion (BOPE) was already in Rio, patrolling.
      But the gangsters dont really care.
      Even if they will keep quieter for a while, no doubt they will shoot and kill again.

      The simple question is : what do they have to lose ?

    • Simpleton

      “The area has been taken over by men of the Military Police’s Special Operations Battalion (BOPE), who promise to stay there indefinitely.” . . . “The police say traffickers of two rival gangs exchanged shots there while fighting to get the best drug sale spots in the Mineira favela.”

      It is good to know that now the BOPE will have the best spots for themselves.

      I’ve walked Catumbi up and around and down (with brazillian local escort of course). Most of it is not so bad. Helped checked out a couple of apartments for a friend and thier friend. Except for the public transport situation up around the tops, didn’t look bad at all. Guess I somehow missed the best spots ne?

      Anyway, except for the intrusions after inter-gang exchanges and the stray incidences against police, you can be sure there will be more and more busts as time goes on. Don’t underestimate the intel and planning escalation that’s been in the mill / starting to bear fruit. Atta-boy’s all around to the good guys.

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