Taking Sean from his Family and Little Sister on Christmas Eve Is Inhumane

    Silvana Bianchi

    Silvana Bianchi Dear President Lula, my name is Silvana Bianchi, I am Brazilian, I'm 60 years old and worked all my life. Along with my husband Raimundo Carneiro Ribeiro I raised my two children teaching them to, above all, love this country.

    My daughter, Bruna, died tragically at my granddaughter Chiara's birth. Today I have as main goal of my life to give all attention and affection to my grandchildren, Bruna's children. One of those grandchildren, Sean, also a Brazilian national, became the target of an international campaign that reached unbelievable levels. U.S. officials make public statements calling "kidnapper" a grandmother, who in the absence of her daughter, just wishes to raise their grandchildren.

    Our formation values the role of the mother. In the absence of the mother, the upbringing falls to the grandmother. So it is all over Brazil, from north to south, regardless of race, color, religion or social class. It is natural that foreigners with different backgrounds, do not understand these feelings so authentically Brazilian.

    I'm worried about losing my grandson Sean due to an international pressure that does not take into consideration the interests of a 9-year-old child who longs to remain among those who gave him comfort at the time of his mother's death.

    The Judicial decisions that have been taken by determining the handing out of Sean in 48 hours to the American Consulate did not take into account the wishes of my grandson to stay in Brazil. They argued that the Hague Convention requires immediate delivery. I am not a lawyer, but what I know is that the Convention establishes as maximum priority the child's interest. And the child was not heard.

    Mr President, this is not an outburst of a grandmother in agony. It is the cry of a Brazilian fighting with all her forces, the ones she still has, so that the Justice of this country apply the laws with the essential dose of humanity.

    Trying to take a 9-year-old child from his daily life with the family he has continuously lived with for 5 years, and especially from his sister, 1.3-year-old Chiara, which finds great comfort in Sean, just on Christmas Eve, represents an inhumanity. Jesus came to earth to save humankind. May God protect those who believe in the supreme principle of Christianity, the preservation of the family.

    I respectfully ask Your Excellency that we are granted the opportunity to present, in a hearing, our family and to personally deliver the written statements by Sean addressed to Your Excellency.

    Wishing Your Excellency, your wife and your whole family a happy Christmas reunion, I await your response.

    With respect

    Silvana Bianchi

    The above is, in its entirety, the open letter sent on Tuesday, December 22, to President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva by Silvana Bianchi, the Brazilian grandmother of Sean Goldman, whose custody is being disputed in the Brazilian courts.

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    • anonymous

      Ana, you are speculating wildly about the father. Why is it “obvious” that she wouldn’t have left him if he was a good dad. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree we say, so if the mother is such a narcissitic nut case, then who knows what the daughter was like. And you claim that she came from a “civilized” family and she learned “values” abroad, just sounds like wild speculation and presumption. Nothing about the grandmother impressed me as being “civilized” or as having “values”. It is a sad reality that his life is being presented here and in the media as something for everyone to examine and judge. This is even more of the crime; doesn’t need to prove to you or anyone else what a good husband or father he was. And as far as the so called education and future he would have had in Brazil. Even if Sean is just your average middle class american, your average middle class public school in the US is better than even the private schools paid for by the few priveledged Brazilian families who send their kids to private schools. But even if the father was dirt poor, the right thing to do is to have the child go with his father. The rest of this talk is gossip, and wild speculation. At this point, his relation with his child is his business, and not the business of blogs and TV novelas.

    • anonymous

      Ana, you are speculating wildly about the father. Why is it “obvious” that she wouldn’t have left him if he was a good dad. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree we say, so if the mother is such a narcissitic nut case, then who knows what the daughter was like. And you claim that she came from a “civilized” family and she learned “values” abroad, just sounds like wild speculation and presumption. Nothing about the grandmother impressed me as being “civilized” or as having “values”. It is a sad reality that his life is being presented here and in the media as something for everyone to examine and judge. This is even more of the crime; doesn’t need to prove to you or anyone else what a good husband or father he was. And as far as the so called education and future he would have had in Brazil. Even if Sean is just your average middle class american, your average middle class public school in the US is better than even the private schools paid for by the few privledged Brazilian families who send their kids to private schools. But even if the father was dirt poor, the right thing to do is to have the child go with his father. The rest of this talk is gossip, and wild speculation. At this point, his relation with his child is his business, and not the business of blogs and TV novelas.

    • Ana

      Other side of the Story!!!
      It’s funny!! Everyone is saying that the grandmother and Step father are a kidnaper and forget about Bruna. It’s clear that if David was a good husband, Bruna would not have left him. She came from a civilized family and was able to study abroad as well as to learn values…. it’s clear that she only made this decision to leave all behind, since a civilized separation was not possible. Any man that has been left, (by the wife that paid the bills and everything at home, working while the man stayed at home playing as a babysitter) would be pissed. As well as being traded for an intelligent man that was able to go to university and make his own life. Anyone knows what David does… for a living? He has this site that receives donations so that he can live, (and show the world that he is a good dad) using the money of people that actually believes in his version of the story. I am not trying to Excuse Bruna’s doing… but to say that the rest of the family acted as kidnaper… that’s pure ignorance. Bruna’s family actually made something out of themselves from scratch and achieved success… with talent and intelligence, as well as Lins and Silva. You ask me… I think David does love his child and has all right to fight for him… but deep inside he is an opportunist!!!! If it wasn’t for the donations he would not have a proper life as well as let’s see… if he can afford giving his child the education and future that he could have had… or will go back to the boy’s grandparents to ask for help!!!!

    • Paul Laube

      Brazil you don’t get, Grandma you don’t get it, Lawyers from Brazil you don’t get it, you kidnapped a child from his father, thats INHUMANE idots!

    • Jim

      Silvana -you will be going to hell someday where you can meet up with your daughter

    • u.s strike force

      now that you mentioned it…….
      its been reported that the state of new jersey which has illegal brazilian nationals living there without authorization to be in the u.s.a. have been leaving and returning to brazil in considerable numbers… apparently this goldman case is having a definate momentum to incourage the illegal alien brazilian nationals to self deport ,rather then wait to be arrested by u.s. immigration authorities…the majority of brazilian nationals in the u.s.a. are illegal…..

    • u.s strike force

      now that you mentioned it…….
      its been reported that the state of new jersey which has illegal brazilian nationals living there without authorization to be in the u.s.a. have been leaving and returning to brazil in considerable numbers… apparently this goldman case is having a definate momentum to incourage the illegal alien brazilian nationals to self deport ,rather then wait to be arrested by u.s. immigration authorities…the majority of brazilian nationals in the u.s.a. are illegal…..

    • corruption

      corruption
      It took American threat of economic sanction to bring down this rich, connected family who are used to bending the law to their liking. The ruling upper class of Brazil: this is your wake-up call. If a fisherman from America can bring down this corrupt family, ordinary Brazilians can unite and revolt. It’s about time. Stand up and revolt!

    • Frank

      Corretion
      SHOULD READ….. For all our FAILINGS as Americans, both north and south.

    • Frank

      Remember Elian?
      This is an unfortunate and tragic incident for all concerned. Losing a child is one’s worst nightmare. This can be said about Silvana Bianchi as well as for David Goldman. For all the failings, real or perceived, of both countries, it seems very clear that international law was and is on Mr Goldman’s side. For those who think it was America’s arrogance and might that ruled the day, let me remind them of the case of Elian Gonzalaez some years ago. You can google it or go read about it on Wikopedia under the Elian Gonzalez affair. It was not a very popular decision here in the United Sates, yes I do live there, but it was the proper application of the rule of law. For all our filings as Americans, both north and south. we should take some comfort in the fact that we both are subject to the rule of law which sometimes leads to unpopular but proper decisions. As for the 8 years of Bush, one could of only hoped that there were more ‘unpopular’ decisions during that period. The world would be a better place if that were they case. I only hope that we, up here in the north, have learned that lesson

    • Juan

      Anonymous
      [quote]This is not a Brazilian vs American thing: [/quote]

      What part of “US Senator Frank Lautenberg had blocked the renewal of a trade bill with Brazil” due to this issue you didn’t pick up?

      Your government once again solved a dispute with threats. US makes anything political with their sanctions.

      [quote]This is not a Brazilian vs American thing[/quote]

      Thanks to your government threats it is a Brazilian vs American thing.. Soak up more moisture into your brain and watch the news stupid jerk…

    • Laura

      Anonymous
      [quote] I would love to know what the majority of sane Brazilians think of this, and not just the loud-mouthed malicious jingoistic nut cases on this blog. It’s a waste of time even responding to these people since I suspect they are extreme and don’t represent all Brazilians, and they don’t seem to have the slightest ability to process a logical reasons. They are in the same league as the grandmother. Again, Brazil has no monopoly on such jerks, but this blog is poisoned by them. [/quote]

      I understand your point honey and I would say the same to you: I would like to hear the point of sane Americans (if there is such a thing). The only thing illogical is the US to make sanction threats to Brazil due to this case. The US has monopoly of these dominant pressuring idiot politics who believe they can control the world with their sanctions.

    • anonymous

      yeah the grandmother and mother abducted the child to Brazil, and let the father suffer through five years and five Christmas without his child, and she complains that they will be taking away the boy at Christmas. Did she think about how the father has suffered without his son at Christmas for years. This woman sounds very self-centered and childish herself. This is not a Brazilian vs American thing: there are irrational selfish jerks everywhere on Earth, yet unfortunately this turned into a dumb Brazil vs the US issue. I would love to know what the majority of sane Brazilians think of this, and not just the loud-mouthed malicious jingoistic nut cases on this blog. It’s a waste of time even responding to these people since I suspect they are extreme and don’t represent all Brazilians, and they don’t seem to have the slightest ability to process a logical reasons. They are in the same league as the grandmother. Again, Brazil has no monopoly on such jerks, but this blog is poisoned by them. They overact, curse, insult and demonize who ever disagrees with them. I suspect many of them are adolescents or young adults who are prone to divide the world into good guys and bad guys. If they aren’t adolescents, they sure sound like they are! Pure Rain and Fried chc: you sound very childish. I hope Santa Claus brings you emotional maturity, compassion, self-control, generosity, and reason, which is clearly lacking in your responses.

    • Peace

      This is about a father’s right to his child
      I am neither American or Brazilian, and to make this political is childish. This is about a father’s right to be with his child. Enough already! How would you like YOUR child taken from you?

    • Marc

      Unacceptable behaviour
      She calls herself a grandmother for this boy. How dare she! The boy belogs to be with his parents and in this case thsi means with his father. Now for 5 years she has been dragging this man through the mud, she has been influencing his son against him. Why is this person not prosecuted in Brasil? Is this not only a lawless country but also a unhuman country?

    • Purple Rain

      Ignacia – about dam time!
      [quote]to all of you brazilians who just “don’t get it”. He was born in the USA, is an AMERICAN citizen BY BIRTH,[/quote]

      And a Brazilian citizen by blood honey…

      [quote]As for his poor 1.3 years old sister missing him…..she will get over it. by tomorrow.[/quote]

      Hey, hey, we have a phycologist wannabe here.

      [quote]about dam time![/quote]

      I guess since you are living in the US, at least, what you could do is to learn proper English.

      Dam is what you create with your Tampax, and Damn is what you really meant here, got it ?

    • anonymous

      My main point above, is that blind jingoism and anti Americanism is rampant in Brazil. It makes many Brazilians (educated and non-educated) blind to certain realities. There is so much of this ridiculous jingoism in this blog, it is hard to take it seriously.

    • anonymous

      Also, sadly, many Brazilians get their information about the US and the world from TV novelas (soap operas). While living in Brazil, I watched a popular novela (America) with my grandmother and my wife. They showed one scene where American border police stood on a hill top and shot repeatedly at people below crossing into the US illegally. My mother in law then turned to me and chastised me, “why does your country do this ???”. Of course, Americans know that we don’t do this; if a border policeman were to actually shoot someone simply for crossing the border, they would likely be arrested themselves and sent to jail. Yet my mother in law did not believe that the police could be prosecuted for this. She believed in the propaganda of novelas. In truth, while many Americans are against the number of illegal immigrants in the US who are repressing wages for Americans and Mexicans as well, there are also many generous people and agencies in the US supporting this community as well. I know. I taught English to children of Mexican Americans in the US illegally: they received a better education as well as other opportunities in the US than in Mexico, despite being here illegally. And, many of us here welcome them as they are hard-working honest people, just trying to improve the lives of their families. As an American, I am neither for US hegemony, nor Brazilian, Russian, Indian, Chinese or any other nation’s hegemony. The idea of a “super power” above all others is flawed and undemocratic. So while Brazil, is a local super-power, it is striving to be more on the world stage, hence Lula hugging and friending tyrannical leaders like Ahmenajeen of Iran (who most of the world see as a war-mongering, holocaust-denying tyrant who is now torturing, imprisoning and murdering his own people for peacefully protesting), just to show Brazil is independent of the US. That case, like this custody are both about universal justice, in other words, about what is the right thing to do, not what is best for a Brazilian grandmother. Some people here keep turning it into an issue of the US vs Brazil. I would be more impressed if Brazil reversed its own class exploitation, and improved the rights of women, Blacks, gays, Indians, and minorities before it tried to push for a greater role on the world scene. This case is about a father wanting his child, not about Brazil vs the US.

    • anonymous

      Que bobagem Àƒ© essa? Essa familia carioca oportunista, pilantra e sem carater Àƒ© podre mesmo. VÀƒ¡ em paz David e Sean. Os Brasileiros de bem estÀƒ£o muito felizes por voces. Feliz Natal.
      Well said Natalya; thank you; you represent the sane, fair-minded voice of Brazil’s future. If you read only this website you would think that the majority of Brazilians are uneducated jingoistic idiots much like their American redneck counterparts. They seemed to think this is an issue of the US vs Brazil. It’s not a soccer game, it’s a case of universal justice, which is beyond American or Brazilian values. The Hague Treaty aimed at promoting justice, not what was good for Americans or Brazilians or Cariocas, or any other people. Whether you are a redneck American who thinks everything the US is perfect or a jingoistic Brazilian redneck, who thinks the same about Brazil, you would help your nation by learning how to be critical of your nation when it is truly wrong. You are not helping your nation by saying everything about it is perfect. And in this case, you need to first see, that is was about the rights of the father, regardless of American, Brazilian or whoever. Someone here made a good point: to the credit of the Brazilian courts, they have ruled repeatedly in favor of returning the boy to his father. All of this is silly talk about how Americans are selfish and arrogant, and how, and how the US has broken treaties elsewhere, and how the father is going to make the children on his boat, and how living in New Jersey does not compare with living in “exotic, beautiful, tropical Rio” , and how the child will grow up to be a murderer if he is raised in the US, etc. These are the kind of trashy ideas and prejudices people throw around in TV novelas, not in an internationally respected court of law. None of these ridiculous claims are related to the simple issue of a father’s right to have his own child, above his grandmother’s right. The fact that this grandmother is trying to twist the logic by claiming that the grandmother has a right to the child because it is the Brazilian tradition makes no sense. My wife, who is Brazilian, says she knows of no such tradition in a court of law, and that in Brazil, as elsewhere in the world, the biological father has the right to the child before grandparents. I really wonder who writes all the jingoistic (extreme nationalistic ) trash spewed all over this blog. It can be summarized as US = EVIL, Brazil = PARADISE. Most of it sounds like “sour grapes” as we say up North: Brazil wants to be in the position of the US, and although it is comparable in size and resources, it hasn’t been able to pull this off, hasn’t been able to tackle it’s own corruption and excessive bureaucracy, and extreme class oppression, so instead, sadly it settles for puffing itself up with delusions and boasting about being a paradise. Many of the trashy ideas expressed here have nothing to do with serious investigative journalism, nor academic research, nor in-depth analysis of the issues. Since less than 2% of the population of Brazil (the wealthy elites) are able to go to college in Brazil, I should be more forgiving of these poorly informed ideas. And many of these “colleges” provide shabby education, because the rich parents pressure the director of the school to give high grades (marks) to students, even if they never open a book the entire time.

    • ignacia

      and one more thing……..to all of you brazilians who just “don’t get it”. He was born in the USA, is an AMERICAN citizen BY BIRTH, and has one father….David. Jaoa or whatever the hell mr. rich guy’s name is…..is NOT his father, NEVER has been, and NEVER will be. As for his poor 1.3 years old sister missing him…..she will get over it. by tomorrow. This to the grandma….you lost a daughter, now i suggest if you EVER want to see your grandson again you start by accepting Mr. Goldman as the boy’s father – NOW

    • ignacia

      about dam time!
      Thank you for some justice, finally. I guess in Brazil if you have enough money you can buy judges to make decisions in your favor…the e silva family and this wacko of a grandmother should know that Karma happens, they have no legal right to this child and yes grandma, you are a kidnapper…nothing more nothing less. Thank the dear lord that he will tomorrow be on a plane back to the USA where he was a citizen and had a loving father BEFORE the grandma’s poor deceased daughter stole him and remarried her divorce atty. Congratulations David……and welcome home Sean!!!

    • Barriga Verde

      SÀƒ³ nÀƒ£o digo que foi um final feliz, porque a avÀƒ³ e o padastro deveriam ser punidos pelos danos causados ao garoto. Menterim para ele, criaram uma figura de monstro do pai, quando ele, o pai, brough muito, MUITO para reaver o filho que foi tirado ilegalmente da sua casa. Esse tipo de mulher queima filmes de todas as mulheres honestas, principalmente no exterior. Como pode algo tÀƒ£o obvio, ter dado tanto trabalho pra justiÀƒ§a?

    • Barriga Verde

      Que bobagem Àƒ© essa? Essa familia carioca oportunista, pilantra e sem carater Àƒ© podre mesmo. VÀƒ¡ em paz David e Sean. Os Brasileiros de bem estÀƒ£o muito felizes por voces. Feliz Natal.

    • Andrade

      [quote]I really feel sorry for Sean, taking away from his loving family, in a nurturing secured environment, from the lush of Rio, tropical, exotic, and warm, and all his friendsÀ¢€¦ to what?
      [/quote]

      BUT…BUT… your “Viable Solution” is being implemented and the GringÀƒµes haven’t even bothered to acknowledge the brilliant part of it. 😀 😉

    • gringo1

      ” Three Brazilian courts have now issued verdicts ordering the kidnappers to return this child to his natural father. Brazilian courts who have ruled according to Brazilian law. Are the brasileiros now saying their court system is screwed up? When the corrupt judge ruled to keep the child in Brazil they all applauded for the corruption, but still the legitimate courts have decided again for the natural father in accordance with the Brazilian law. SO now the brasileiros are complaining. Someone please explain to me this logic.

      Well put Natalya, it truly was shocking to watch Brazilians supporting the blatantly corrupt system when it ruled against David; this is the same system they complain about daily when it rules against them and favours the elite. In the end, you get the country you deserve. Everyone knew it was just about sticking it to an American. You need go no farther than this site to see the true colours of those who cheered for a father being stripped of his only son. pretty sad really. But brazil is a country that does do the right thing, only after exhausting all other potential options. Sean is going home today. No more worries about traficantes, balas perdidos, ignorant caricoas (which is the WORST) and he’ll have a shot at learning how to arriving at meeting and events on time. More importantly, he’ll be with his father, and not Cruella da Vil and her family of corrupt incompetent mama’s boys.

    • fried chc

      BEWARE: Natalya Barbosa is a fake!
      David’s friends once again at it… These amarican rats trying to portray Brasilians, are assuming Brasilian names by Googling “Brazilian Proper Names.”

      Amerikans jerks… Kiss My (…..0…..)

      Costinha

    • Natalya Barbosa

      I cannot believe
      that intelligent people would equate the desire of a father to raise his own natural child with the government’s actions in his country. How can anyone possibly think this is a case of one country against another country? What kind of people would blame Mr. Goldman for the wars his country is involved in?

      Three Brazilian courts have now issued verdicts ordering the kidnappers to return this child to his natural father. Brazilian courts who have ruled according to Brazilian law. Are the brasileiros now saying their court system is screwed up? When the corrupt judge ruled to keep the child in Brazil they all applauded for the corruption, but still the legitimate courts have decided again for the natural father in accordance with the Brazilian law. SO now the brasileiros are complaining. Someone please explain to me this logic.

      The Hague treaty clearly states in the case of a child being removed illegally from his country of residence, the case will be tried in the child’s original country. This was argued not only by the American lawyers, but also by the Brazilian government. What are you complaining about. If the Silva family and the Bianchi family care to pursue this case in American courts, they have the legal right to do so. What’s the problem? After 5 years in the Brazilian courts, with every ruling going in favor of the natural father, please give the U.S. courts a chance to see it differently.

      I know none of the irrational Brazilians here will even bother to consider these points,because of their jealousy and envy of all things American, but neither can they give a decent argument as to why this isn’t right. The facts are clear. The Hague treaty, the Brazil law, and the U.S. law require this boy be returned to his natural father. I, and most other brazilians understand this, but those who post their malicious garbage here, are clearly in the minority. The fact the Brazil courts have 3 times ruled in david Goldman’s favor should be proof enough of this.

      God Bless you Mr. Goldman for your dedication to your child.

    • fried chc

      LetÀ¢€™s Be Real NowÀ¢€¦.
      I really feel sorry for Sean, taking away from his loving family, in a nurturing secured environment, from the lush of Rio, tropical, exotic, and warm, and all his friendsÀ¢€¦ to what?

      A cold empty apartment and insecure neglecting setting in New Jersey? This kid will be screw-up for lifeÀ¢€¦. Poor thing!

      God Mess Amerika,

      Costinha

    • fried chc

      from gringo0 to gring1
      You said “[i]Karma is a bitch[/i],” who is she? Is she a call girl, independent sex consultant, or dating-girl without a pimp?

      With a name like that, I bet she is an all american girl….

      Costinha da Costa

    • gringo1

      The story is about a father and a corrupt family. Corrupt families can buy justice in any nation, they just happened to be in Brazil for this particular polemic. So stop the iber nationalist BS. Yes Bush is a wanker, and Lula is inept. We can spend all day talking about the faults of nations.

      However, one message to the Silvana….Karma is a bitch and will prove it once again to your family. You;ve already lost a daughter, and now you will lose Sean forever. If you had negotiated in good faith with the father, from the beginning, everyone would have had access to Sean and it could have been a lovely adventure for Sea to grow up learning two different cultures with two loving families. However, because of your shortsightedness, pettiness, spitefulness and pure corruption and the mental torture you put Sean and his father through, until Sean is of the age to travel on his own, you can be rest assured David will not be bringing Sean there again. And rightfully so. You blew it with your vindictive pettiness. If you would have stayed out of your daughter’s life, maybe none of this would have happened. You have all the hallmarks of an evil meddling women. You made your own bed, now lay in it.

    • fried chc

      James from Philly from James
      Funny thing you mentioned À¢€œ[i]Hearing testimony from a 9 year is insane, especially since he has been brainwashed for 5 long years….[/i]À¢€Â

      And yet, if such child commits a crime in US soil, the American courts will prosecute such child as an adult!

      JamesÀ¢€¦. I would slap you but I’m not sure your brain could process the pain.

      Costinha

    • Purple Rain

      HAHAHA
      [quote]Now, Mr. Goldmanˢ۪s desire is to take possession of both of them, that is, Sean and his little sister Chiara. Feeling the tie is in his favor, Mr. Goldman expressed his desire to optimize his trip, and taking back both kids, and sort of killing 2 bird with a singular stone if you will. [/quote]

      Who’s the kidnapper now ?

    • gringo0

      From “gringo0” to “gringo1”
      Place the following phrase into a well know english proverb:

      A.S.S. – MY – KISS

      hugs,

      Costinha

    • fried chc

      GeorgeÀ¢€¦. Is your last name Bush?
      Well done George! You are doing a fine job being an idiot. George, I like you, but I wouldn’t want to see you working with sub-atomic particles.

      God Mess Amerika,

      Costinha

    • Purple Rain

      To Americans here
      [quote]its ridiculas for americans to viligy the braziliand court system implying the american system is fine
      [/quote]

      Americans think their court system is fine? Hence why I call them murderers ! Their government kills and torture people all over the world, they don’t even take their terrorist suspects for trials, just straight to prison and torture. It’s been proven that half of those arrested and tortured by Americans in Guantanamo Bay and other secret prisons are innocent, then they send those innocent people back to their countries after 7 years or more glamtof torture as if nothing had happened.

      Then they think their court system is fine ! Their court system is fine if you have an American passport and cruel if you don’t ! Simple as that.

      That’s fine if you are a selfish monkey.

    • fried chc

      BREAKINGÀ¢€¦ BREAKING
      Itˢ۪s being reported that David Goldman spirits are extremely high, so much so that he has decided to rake the entire pair. Thatˢ۪s right, you heard right!

      Now, Mr. Goldmanˢ۪s desire is to take possession of both of them, that is, Sean and his little sister Chiara. Feeling the tie is in his favor, Mr. Goldman expressed his desire to optimize his trip, and taking back both kids, and sort of killing 2 bird with a singular stone if you will.

      This latest development is absurd and apparently, several people are signing a list to the Pope, to stop at once, this american insanity. Isnˢ۪t this almost like hostage taking???

      Itˢ۪s being reported that Mr. Goldman will used both kids to crew his new boat (i.e. cleaning, cooking etc.). Enough is enough, Mr. Goldman ought to be deported from Brasil (along with his corrupted congressman) before he gets ownership of both kids. I am writing Obama a letter to stop this crazy american move!

      God Mess Amerika,

      Costinha

    • Purple Rain

      James from Philly
      [quote]You dont return the kid NOW, your country will have major issues.. You will feel the wrath of American pressure… [/quote]

      And what would that wrath be Mr Murderer? A bomb in Brazil ?

      Clearly Venezuela hasnt felt this so powerful wrath yet.. Iran hasnt felt it eitheir. Where is it ?

      It’s a good time for the world to get united against American monkeys.

      Sean should stay in Brazil so he doesn’t become a murderer in America.

    • James from Philly

      what about his Father
      Brasilian Justice? A Fucking Joke!!! Sean’s father has been without HIS child for 5 long years.. Enough fucking around! Return the child to his only living parent.
      Sean was kidnapped,,, its not open for negotiation…The mother died.. how’s that for karma….Brazil signed the Hague Convention..Comply with the law.

      Hearing testimony from a 9 year is insane, especially since he has been brainwashed for 5 long years….

      You dont return the kid NOW, your country will have major issues.. You will feel the wrath of American pressure…

      DO THE RIGHT THING AND RETURN SEAN NOW.

      A PROUD AMERICAN

    • gringo1

      @asp. Why would anyone log onto this site thinking it’s a dialogue between ” Americans and Brazilians” only? Only an American would be that arrogant and think the world revolves around them. The site is about UNDERSTANDING BRAZIL and not WATCH US AMERICANS UNDERSTAND BRAZIl. No?

    • Purple Rain

      Christina
      It is funny you talking about mothers and fathers here. What do you understand ? You are just a f-ucking whore, nothing more than that.

      ————–

      George,

      Apologies for insulting you by calling you American.

      [quote]That’s why Rio de janieo is hiring an AMERICAN to clean up the City, because they know they cant do it by themselves. But do you really want to play this game? [/quote]

      Why an American to clean up Rio? Simple to answer: Americans are the best warriors (murderers) in modern human history! They are damn good at fighting.

    • asp

      this case is small time…..
      it hardly relates to real problems faced by both countries….there is going to be no boycott of the olympics or banning of americans from coming to brazil

      its ridiculas for americans to viligy the braziliand court system implying the american system is fine

      i just heard from an old colleague who was thrown in jail in america because his ex wife falsly acused him of something….he later was released and had heart surgery from the stress….several years of jail time is worse than anything goldman has gone through…..every one needs to get a reality check here

    • asp

      strange in here….
      gringo isnt american, how do we know for sure andrade or purple rain are pure brazilian?

      lots of low leval generalization insults going back and forth by people that may not even be american or brazilian

      that is the hilariousness of this forum…people may think they are tuning in for diolougue between americans and brazilians but its mostly other countries…

    • Christina

      This woman belongs in jail
      Our formation values the role of the mother. In the absence of the mother, the upbringing falls to the grandmother. So it is all over Brazil, from north to south, regardless of race, color, religion or social class. It is natural that foreigners with different backgrounds, do not understand these feelings so authentically Brazilian.

      This woman doesn’t get it. Her daughter was married in America, to an American husband. Her son was born a US citizen on American soil. In America most fathers are active participants in the rearing and upbringing of their children. That’s what this “foreigner” doesn’t get. Just because most Brazilian fathers are losers who want nothing to do with their children doesn’t mean that is how the world should work. I never heard of such a thing, that a grandmother has rights above a father. What a load of horse shit.
      And to the folks here who hate America… Fuck you.

    • gringo1

      ” George, your George Bush was the biggest murderer in modern human history, lets not forget that the innocent human lives lost in your wars, their blood is in your government hands.”

      Yes, and for that reason we should keep Sean…!!!!!! meu deus do ceu. Do you know how stupid you sound?

    • gringo1

      Purple rain, nice generalization. So if that’s true, than all Brazilians are ignorant favaldo trafficante child-murdering corrupt fools, too? Brazil has 3% of the world’s population and 11 % of the world’s homicides. 3% is an interesting figure because that is also the same percentage of homicides that are actually solved in Brazil. Pathetic no? That’s why Rio de janieo is hiring an AMERICAN to clean up the City, because they know they cant do it by themselves. But do you really want to play this game?

      Now, I’m not American (another erroneous assumption on your part, but not surprising), and I can rant all day about American hegemony too, about the uber reich wing fundamentalists of America, but I’m not stupid because this story is easier to understand and you don’t need a freaking flag to win it. This is a story about a father’s fight to get his ONLY son back from a corrupt family that circumnavigated the judicial system and international treaties via influence peddling. Now quietly go off and pray you’re not struck with a stray bullet.

    • Purple Rain

      This Brazilian woman is a psycho and a criminal , as well as Lula
      That’s what we have here: Americans again with their cheap morals saying Lula is a criminal and the government supports criminals.

      George, your George Bush was the biggest murderer in modern human history, lets not forget that the innocent human lives lost in your wars, their blood is in your government hands.

      The torture allegations by CIA, American Soldiers killing and torturing and human right violations by Americans in Guantanamo Bay are spreading all over the world in the media. People all over the world is getting more and more anti-American feelings because you Americans are selfish and murderers.

    • João da Silva

      [quote]I am Brazilian, I’m 60 years old and worked all my life. Along with my husband Raimundo Carneiro Ribeiro I raised my two children teaching them to, above all, love this country.[/quote]

      I have not read a single public statement made by Mr.Raimundo Ribeiro expressing his personal thoughts over this issue. I don’t think he is an indifferent father or Grandpa and hence it would be interesting to know what he thinks. I also wonder what role DÀ‚ª.Silvana played in wrecking up her daughterÀ‚´s marriage. I have seen a couple of my friends losing the custody battles over their children who went to live with their mothers. The kids turned out to be problematic ones completely alienated from both biological parents.

      The situation here is worse because the mother died leaving a daughter behind. From what I read, Mr.Lins e Sliva is dating another lady and the little baby lives with her [i]maternal[/i] Grandma (Silvana). I think at her age, it would be difficult for her to take care of a 9 year old boy and a year old baby. I wonder why she is insisting on keeping Sean, when Goldman is the real father and let him bring him up in the U.S.It would be easier for her and visit Sean once or twice a year. But there again, some people are inflexible and irrational and she may be one such person.

      Hope the little baby is taken care of by [i]her[/i] father and future step mother and not brought up by a maid.

    • George

      This Brazilian woman is a psycho and a criminal , as well as Lula
      It is a crime to kidnap a child. It is a crime for a foreign government to not return this child to his rightful parent. This woman is not a grandmother. She is a controlling criminal who forced her daughter into returning to Brazil and kidnaping her child. She also convinced her daughter to marry an attorney in order to be able to abuse the corrupt Brazilian court system.
      Woman, stop your criminal tears. You belong in prison. Sean’s father is his only true relative as he has not broken the law or kidnapped him. I hope you hang.

    • Purple Rain

      Gringo1
      [quote]Andrade proves just how miserable some Brazilians are. You see it yourself. SCREW THE LAW WE’LL DO WHAT WE WANT. This is the worst type of Brazilian, and to think, they wanted to raise Sean to be another corrupt non thinking selfish piece of shit. It’s good that Sean is going home before the brainwashing was complete.[/quote]

      Americans are the biggest treaty breakers in the world. There is not a single treaty they havent violated yet: UN resolution against the war, they went ahead, the World Trade resolution against the tariffs, they didn’t give a f-uck, your government secretly violates the human rights of people with secret CIA agents torturing terrorists suspects in Eastern European countries.. So F-uck off with your stupid argument here.

      So Gringo1, f-uck off bitch and bark somewhere else because your American venom doesn’t have an effect here. We all know you’re all the biggest treaty breakers and selfish people in the world.

      The boy should stay in Brazil so he doesn’t grow up to be a mass murderer American soldier or a secret torturer CIA agent.

    • gringo1

      Andrade proves just how miserable some Brazilians are. You see it yourself. SCREW THE LAW WE’LL DO WHAT WE WANT. This is the worst type of Brazilian, and to think, they wanted to raise Sean to be another corrupt non thinking selfish piece of shit. It’s good that Sean is going home before the brainwashing was complete.

    • Andrade

      We will keep the boy!
      To hell with the Hague Treaty and all you Gringoes! We will appeal this outrageous decision…..

    • gringo1

      Shut this kidnapper up! that letter was pre written and waiting the decision, she’s as fake as faux fur. And I agree with the poster above me. Keeping Sean from his father for 5 years is what is at stake. Karma’s a BITCH lady, your daughter should know.

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      keeping a child from his father for 5 years is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! inhumane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      lets break this down

      if lula sides with her he will than be revoking the hague treaty in his mandate to keep the boy in brasil .
      the father will then file in the hague a court order to have the trail moved to there to face the courts there .
      when the courts find in favor of goldman the boy will be take from them then.

      at the same time the US will also revoke the 2.57 billion trade tax rule they passed in good fath for brazil handing over the child .
      next the US will impost a travelrs warning to not go to brasil with your children and also stop all hearings of brasilians trying to
      take the chrildren back to brasil .

      so will lula put brasil on the hook to all other nations about child custody ??

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