Lula Tells Peres Why Brazil Talks to Iran and Is Invited to Turn On Middle East Lights

    Lula and Peres in Brasília

    Lula and Peres in BrasÀ­lia Talking to journalists in Brazilian capital BrasÀ­lia and standing close to Israeli president Shimon Peres. the president of Brazil, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva defended the visit of Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Brazil. You cannot have peace without talking to everyone involved in the matter, he argued.

    For the Brazilian president if the dialogue occurs only between countries that think alike they will just get a club of friends that will never achieve peace. Lula was responding to a Israeli reporter who wanted to know how Lula could justify the visit of a leader who denies that the holocaust ever happened.

    Lula recalled that in 1993 he was in Israel as president of the Workers Party (PT) when he met Shimon Peres. In 1994 he went back to the Middle East for an encounter with Yasser Arafat, then the Palestine Liberation Organization's (PLO) leader.

    Those visits and meetings he said brought him the strong belief that a peace agreement in the region would need the participation of Peres and Arafat. "Today we have only 50% chance of putting both together," added Lula in a reference to Arafat's death. "We need to talk more. We have no veto to talk to anyone whatsoever."

    The Brazilian leader also said, "You do not build the necessary peace in the Middle East if you don't talk to all the political and religious forces that want peace and that are opposed to peace. If not you'll turn the negotiation process into a friends club where everybody is in agreement and whoever  dissents is left out, making peace impossible."

    "Now we need to talk more and meet more interlocutors who wish to help with building peace in the Middle East. And we have nothing against talking to anyone as long as from that conversation we can extract a word, or just a comma, that can contribute for the construction of peace."

    After listening to Lula, Peres responded with a metaphor that seemed a little awkward after the massive blackout in Brazil on Tuesday, when 18 states were left in the dark for hours.

    "I understand that the president introduced a program called Light for All. Therefore, light for all of us. Mr. president, come and turn on the lights in the Middle East."

    Lula and Peres held conversations on several matters including tourism, movies and technical cooperation.

    On November 23, Lula will receive the Iranian president, a visit that has generated a lot of criticism from the Jewish community in Brazil and from other quarters around the world.

    In his speech, after signing bilateral agreements, and careful not to mention Iran by name, Lula said that Brazil rejects all acts of terrorism, under any pretext, and no matter where it comes from. 

    Peres, on the other hand, reiterated that his government will keep its current position on Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory. He stressed that Israel will maintain its policy of vegetative growth in the three places in Cisjordan where there are already settlements, an attitude that seems to preclude negotiations with the Palestine National Authority who demands the end of those communities.

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    • João da Silva

      dnbaiacu
      [quote]I encourage you to “get” and “stay” CENTERED.May the FORCE be with you [/quote]

      Thanks. You too do that. Since this thread is about to disappear, I suggest we all move to the one above that is titled “From Brazil Israeli Leader Charges Iran with Buying Influence Around World” where I made an entry. Hopefully I don’t get branded as anti-Semitic and lynched. 😥

    • dnbaiacu

      Joao
      [quote]. Who could have imagined a year ago that Brasilians would take up the role of “mediators” of the never ending conflict in the Middle East? Not even our friend Dr.Lloyd Cata[/quote]

      On my favorite financial newsletter it says Brazil wins favor among BRIC. Russia in second place due to a variety of circumstances. Brazil is the last place to run and hide logically. Do anyone think all of this investment in Brazil by the Middle East is for nothing? 😮
      Truth be told I don’t think Peres is on the side of the “Zionists”. He’s faux. Looks to be in support of Isreal , but really a G-20 tool. As is the current “Pope”. The pope supports the United Nations. That’s the biggest irony going that will have devasting consequences on the Churh itself. Muslims aren’t backing down..The church is supposed to believe in God bringing peace ,, not man.
      I know this…… SO THEY [b]HAVE[/b]to know it. 😉
      The divide and conquer strategy is doing it’s work in the States. Obamamaniacs and tea partiers after each others throats behind these bogus Democratic and Republican parties. Getting the country weak enough to deliver over to the U.N as steady as time goes by.
      [quote]As a matter of fact, I enjoy your reference to the “Book”. I think it is necessary to understand the basic teaching of all the religions to correctly interpret the “mysterious” events in the Geopolitics! [/quote]
      I like that!.. It is “mysterious”… Nothing makes sense without this insight, ( if you choose it to be such). Then when you understand that there are “other worldly” forces behind it all . That in fact the “elitists” running things KNOW ABOUT AND ACKNOWLEDGE”. 😉
      This is why I laugh at those who are “anti-conspiracy ” pundits. The powers that be KNOW where they get their power. And they use propaganda for the masses to “discount” all that. The masses think the supernatural element isn’t real and buy into “evolutionary theories, moral relativism and the like”. You never see the real enemy that way.. JUST THE WAY THEY LIKE IT. The “elitists” KNOW THEIR TIME IS UP. They are just enjoying it. The majority of populace desperately KEEP HOPE ALIVE, IN THE WRONG THING. 😥

      btw, Just you and I talking about this is the “polarization effect” 😉 It’s working on so many levels.
      Let’s just continue to enjoy reading the script and watching the show. It’s just going to get better.
      I encourage you to “get” and “stay” CENTERED.
      May the FORCE be with you 😀 😀 😀 😀 😉

    • João da Silva

      dnbaiacu
      [quote]I know your not to keen on my reference the “BooK’ but it is my point of reference in understanding what is happening.[/quote]

      As a matter of fact, I enjoy your reference to the “Book”. I think it is necessary to understand the basic teaching of all the religions to correctly interpret the “mysterious” events in the Geopolitics!

      [quote]How I wish we’d hear from AUGUSTUS.I hope he is well. [/quote]

      Though Augustus is alive and kicking, he must be restraining himself to comment on the issue we are discussing! We know how he feels about “Islamic fundamentalists” 😀 😉

      [quote]I just saw the movie 2012.. Interesting fantasy take on the Mayan prophecies.. I think at best or worst, ( depending on how you look at it) Yellow Stone Park will erupt, further plunging the economy into a mess. I wouldn’t discount a tragedy of some sort altogether.[/quote]

      If time permits, I will see this movie this week. I saw the trailer.

      After displaying our hospitality to Shimon Peres, now we await the visits of Abbas on Friday and Ahmedeneja on the 23rd. Who could have imagined a year ago that Brasilians would take up the role of “mediators” of the never ending conflict in the Middle East? 😉 😀 😉 Not even our friend Dr.Lloyd Cata. 😉

    • dnbaiacu

      Joao
      [quote]Sometimes, I think that Christianity is the most vulnerable religion , especially the Catholicism. Of course it is not my problem and I am sure the Pope is more intelligent than we are to tackle this issue!
      [/quote]
      Very key point.. “Christendom is the most irreprehensible of all of them. Be it that they “claim” to worship the God of the Bible. The “good book” indicates that God is putting it in the hearts of world rulers to carry out His judgement. In other words,, men will do it, but God is the cause.
      [quote]I don’t think that the “God” is going to destroy the religions, but the human Greed encouraged by their Governments thoroughly brainwashing them with the modern propaganda tools. [/quote]
      I refer to this to back that up
      [b]À‚ And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17À‚ For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. Revelation 17:16,17
      [/b]
      🙂 I know your not to keen on my reference the “BooK’ but it is my point of reference in understanding what is happening. You see,,I’d like to “survive” what is coming 😉 I don’t like being in the dark about things or fantasizing too much 😀
      [quote]

      I have some good Jewish friends who question this “Right to exist” and they think the “Hawks” in Israel are as radical as the “Mullahs”. Many other people of diverse religious beliefs whom I know agree with your view that the Israel was an artificial creation of Mother England [/quote]

      So true! Few are buying this madness. Along with a lot of other lies and distortions of the past with “false religious” roots. Unfortunately the vast majority will put their faith the Unitied Nations to “save the world” so to speak. Soon the U.N will be given influence like never before.
      Until then it is going to be interesting how this whole Isreal thing plays out. In the short term I will be watching closely the Muslim world reaction to the mosque closings here. This is pivotal and another catalyst for things to come.
      Things are happening so fast.Even if it does take months and years. I have been on this topic for at least two years now and now some glimmers of it are coming to pass.

      How I wish we’d hear from AUGUSTUS 😀 😀 🙂 😉
      I hope he is well.
      I just saw the movie 2012.. Interesting fantasy take on the Mayan prophecies.. I think at best or worst, ( depending on how you look at it) Yellow Stone Park will erupt, further plunging the economy into a mess. I wouldn’t discount a tragedy of some sort altogether. But that in itself certainly won’t be “Judgement Day”. If absolutely nothing happens in 2012 it will be dangerously business as usual in the minds of the masses. The real end is when G-20 and the U.N start getting rid of religions one way or another , even if it is just instigating them self destructing themselves. 😉

    • João da Silva

      dnbaiacu
      [quote]I get disgusted with the whole “Israel Right to Exist ” thing. Just a blatant religious veneer of a lie. [/quote]

      I have some good Jewish friends who question this “Right to exist” and they think the “Hawks” in Israel are as radical as the “Mullahs”. Many other people of diverse religious beliefs whom I know agree with your view that the Israel was an artificial creation of Mother England who just ensured that the “sun will never set in its empire” as well guarantee the supply of oil to the so called “Western World”. What really disgusts me more and I consider as anti democratic is that any one who questions the foreign policy of the “Jewish State” of Israel is considered to be anti Jewish!

      [quote]It’s insulting to the intelligence of all Americans.[/quote]

      What you said is not insulting just to the intelligence of [i][b]only[/b][/i] Americans ,but to other nationalities with different religious faiths.

      [quote]God is going to have the governments destroy religion. The particulars in how it will be done remains to be seen. But it’s getting pretty obvious as the days go by.[/quote]

      I don’t think that the “God” is going to destroy the religions, but the human [b][i]Greed[/i][/b] encouraged by their [b][i]Governments[/i][/b] thoroughly brainwashing them with the modern propaganda tools.

      Sometimes, I think that Christianity is the most vulnerable religion , especially the Catholicism. Of course it is not my problem and I am sure the Pope is more intelligent than we are to tackle this issue! 😉

    • dnbaiacu

      Joao
      [quote]
      Thank you, my dear fellow.I would rather sit and listen to a nice debate between a New Yorker and an Afro-American-Brasilian-Texan! BUT…BUT…, DnB has a point there when he said:[/quote]

      In the end Truth prevails. 😉 😉
      I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. And my English teacher was Jewish. We asked. I asked. And she could never or appeared reluctant to give a plausible explanation for the beef with Isreal and the Palestinians. It was always very clear to me through Bible study that Israel had no “divine right” over the land it occupies. Certainly NOTHING being divine about its inception. The sad part about it is that if you want to know the REAL story you have to do your own research. The school system is certainly not going to teach you. It’s insulting to the intelligence of all Americans. They play us for being stupid.. (many are I know :sad:-) 911, JFK assasination , deregulation and the ensuing crises we are in etc The list goes on. And people buy it all. The look at the boob tube and think they are getting all of the facts.

    • dnbaiacu

      Vinny
      I appreciated your responded.. Few dare to tackle this subject.
      [quote]You can have all the sympathy in the world for them, but in the end, you’re in the cross-hairs too my friend. [/quote]

      I completely undestand that. But furthermore I understand it to be prophetic.
      The governments (in the name of “security”) will continue to egg on the contentions.
      It’s simply put right here.
      [b]And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17À‚ For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. Revelation 17:16,17
      [/b]
      God is going to have the governments destroy religion. The particulars in how it will be done remains to be seen. But it’s getting pretty obvious as the days go by. Cause and foment dissent among different faiths…… [b]BOOM!!![/b]
      The feds are closing about 4 mosques here in the U.S . With Fort Hood and this , the action is already beginning.
      I just try to help others see the spiritual connect in world events. We aren’t left in the dark as to what is happening. If so ,,, THERE IS NO GOD. A concept many heartily embrace for one reason or another.
      Revelation 17 and 18 describe how the shameles and wealthy whore is responsible for most if not ALL bloodshed on earth. The whore is FALSE RELIGION. Destroying her will be the first step to bringing peace into the world.. But mainly she’s being JUDGED for ALL to see.
      When you understand these prophecies everything you see around you can be understood. You just simply WATCH it happen. This is where MOST start burying their heads in the sand. Or the political scientists want to make it out to be more than what it is. But it is all relatively simple.
      I get disgusted with the whole “Israel Right to Exist ” thing. Just a blatant religious veneer of a lie.
      btw , I wasn’t meaning to be “condescending”.

    • João da Silva

      VinnyCarioca
      [quote]Always close my dear fellow. [/quote]

      Thank you, my dear fellow.I would rather sit and listen to a nice debate between a New Yorker and an Afro-American-Brasilian-Texan! BUT…BUT…, DnB has a point there when he said:

      [quote]The U.S Great Britain and some nomadic shieks started this mess with the palestinians over oil exploration. They have used religion as a front. And now it is coming back to haunt them.[/quote]

      I wonder what your wonderful Brasilian Father-in-law says about this! 😀 😉

      I always enjoy civilized debates like the ones you two are waging. 😀

    • VinnyCarioca

      dnb
      [quote]Please do your research and stop promoting madness.[/quote]

      As much as I dislike the condescending nature of your statement, let me display what they have in store for a beautiful Christian like yourself:

      # In a sermon aired on Hamas’ Al-Aqsa television, cleric Yunis Al Astal stated, “Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam.

      “I believe that our children, or our grandchildren, will inherit our jihad and our sacrifices, and, Allah willing, the commanders of the conquest will come from among them”

      He maintained that Rome would become, “”an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread though Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, even Eastern Europe.”

      You can have all the sympathy in the world for them, but in the end, you’re in the cross-hairs too my friend.

    • VinnyCarioca

      dnb
      Hello dnb, a pleasure.
      My use of the right to exist phrase is based solely on a secular one.. the U.N. Partition Plan.

      [quote]I ‘d love to hear a legitimate back up explanation for this[/quote]

      Well, let’s take a look:

      Hamas Principles

      The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter, given in full below. Following are highlights.

      “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

      “The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. “

      “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

      One of the most ominous aspects of the Charter however, is this Hadith:

      Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

      “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)

    • dnbaiacu

      “Isreals’ Right to Exist”.. Pure religious NON Biblically founded dogma…
      [quote]

      Much the same applies to the position, that the “right to exist” belongs only to the State of Israel. That might be logical in the sense of being consistent with Jewish religious thinking, which sees the Jews as God’s chosen people. Many religious Zionists do simply believe that God gave them the Land of Israel, and that is the end of the matter as far as they are concerned. Not to recognise its existence right, would be to challenge God’s will, and therefore morally wrong from their perspective. It may be an internally consistent position, but there is no reason for anyone other than religious Jews to hold it. (Not all religious Jews do hold that view either, some reject Zionist claims to implement God’s will as blasphemy).

      So a “right to exist” in the sense that is generally implied – a general claim right, which any state can appeal to – is simply nonsense. Attempts to modify or limit it, will not make it any more logical. What is ultimately being stated, is simply a preference for one state over another. It’s no surprise that the Israeli government is pro-Israel, or that Israel’s supporters want it to be there in 50 years time. But any suggestion, that the rest of the world is in some way morally obliged to agree with them, is pure propaganda[/quote]

      [b] The masses have been and are being fooled all in the name of money and ridiculous nationalistic interests.[/b]
      Please do your research and stop promoting madness. 🙁
      There is too much information available to stick with this misinformation they feed us.

    • dnbaiacu

      I ‘d love to hear a legitimate back up explanation for this.
      [quote], as long as you have a group that is determined to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean and refuses to acknowledge their right to exist, [/quote]

      The U.S Great Britain and some nomadic shieks started this mess with the palestinians over oil exploration. They have used religion as a front. And now it is coming back to haunt them.
      Once individuals and nations understand that you can never get away with an injustice, the world will be a better place.
      I am going to google “isreals right to exist” and see what madness I can come up with. No one can EVER explain it outside of some bogus contracts that were written up effectively legalizing the booting of a people that have lived in the area for centuries. They can only give epic failing Holy Book references.
      But here is the REAL Biblical stance.

      [b]Are the events taking place in Israel today in fulfillment of Bible prophecy?
      Ezek. 37:21,À‚ 22, JP: À¢€œThus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land; and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel, and one king shall be king to them all.À¢€Â (Israel today is not a nation under a king of the royal line of David. Theirs is a republic.)
      Isa. 2:2-4, JP: À¢€œIt shall come to pass in the end of days, that the mountain of the LORDÀ¢€™S house shall be established as the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many peoples shall go and say: À¢€˜Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths.À¢€™À‚ .À‚ .À‚ . And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.À¢€Â (In Jerusalem today, where the temple was formerly located there is no À¢€œhouse of the God of Jacob,À¢€Â but, instead, an Islamic shrine. And there is no move on the part of Israel or its neighbors to À¢€œbeat their swords into plowshares.À¢€Â They depend for survival on military preparedness.)
      Isa. 35:1,À‚ 2, JP: À¢€œThe wilderness and the parched land shall be glad; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice, even with joy and singing; the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon; they shall see the glory of the LORD, the excellency of our God.À¢€Â (Remarkable reforestation and irrigation projects have been successfully undertaken in Israel. But its leaders do not give credit to the Lord God. As a former premier, David Ben-Gurion, said: À¢€œIsrael is determined .À‚ .À‚ . to conquer the desert and make it flourish by the power of science and the pioneering spirit, and to transform the country into a bastion of democracy.À¢€Â)
      Zech. 8:23, JP: À¢€œIn those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying: We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.À¢€Â (To what God does the prophecy refer? In the Hebrew language his name [À—™À—”À—”¢À—”, commonly translated Jehovah] appears over 130 times in this one book of the Holy Scriptures. Today when someone uses that name, do people conclude that the person must be a Jew? No; for many centuries, superstition has caused the Jewish people as a whole to refrain from ever uttering GodÀ¢€™s personal name. The upsurge of religious interest concerning natural Israel today does not fit this prophecy.)
      How, then, are events in modern-day Israel to be viewed? Merely as part of global developments foretold in the Bible. These include war, lawlessness, cooling off of love for God, and the love of money.À¢€”Matt. 24:7,À‚ 12; 2À‚ Tim. 3:1-5.

      [/b]
      Simply put, all of this corrupting , twisting and religious fronting is coming back to haunt the area. At the expense of the WORLD. Isreal was created for PROFITS . Nothing to do with God.
      But .. the GOVERNMENTS soon will be letting the public in on this dirty big secret soon enough in their continuance to undermine “faith” in general. An obvious and incraeasing threat to “security”. 😉
      Stay Tuned

    • VinnyCarioca

      Correction
      [quote]He should actually be indicted on an additional 38 counts of attempted murder since a total of 51 were gunned down.[/quote]
      Should be 29 counts of attempted murder.

    • VinnyCarioca

      As for the Fort Hood incident, I am also waiting for the evolution of the things. I hear that the Major is going to be indicted on 13 counts.
      He should actually be indicted on an additional 38 counts of attempted murder since a total of 51 were gunned down. Several are still in intensive care.
      If this wasn’t such a tragedy, the media here in the U.S. would be a comedic dream by the way that they are doing everything possible- except for one network- to not call it what it is…a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Corresponding with a radical cleric who plotted in the past to have soldiers gunned down at Fort Dix, a bomb plot in Atlanta, and to attribute it to a research project he was doing for the military. That’s rich.
      I have to say, I am quite pessimistic about the prospects for peace in the Middle East. As long as you have an ideology that cherishes death over life, as long as you have a group that is determined to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean and refuses to acknowledge their right to exist, as long as you have mullahs determined to achieve a nuclear weapon coupled with past proclamations of immediately using it on Israel, it doesn’t portend anything hopeful.

      [quote]Interesting how this is coinciding with Obama having to make a decision to either decrease or increase troops in Afghanistan[/quote]
      This is the the biggest mess of a mixed signal there is. Is there any wonder why Obama is perceived as weak by the likes of Ahmendinejad, Putin, Chavez, the North Korean wackadoo and the like?

      [quote]And where is Vinny?[/quote]
      Always close my dear fellow.

    • João da Silva

      dnbaiacu
      [quote]Yes, it is certainly going to get more interesting. I just wonder how long they will drag this out. Interesting how this is coinciding with Obama having to make a decision to either decrease or increase troops in Afghanistan.[/quote]

      You know what? I tend to agree with the “predictions” of our esteemed friends Dr.Lloyd Cata & ch.c. 😀 😉 Of course, our other distinguished blogger Forrest may partially do so. 8)

      BTW, where the heck are these three. And where is Vinny? Nobody wants to join us. 😥

    • dnbaiacu

      Joao
      [quote]As for the Fort Hood incident, I am also waiting for the evolution of the things. I hear that the Major is going to be indicted on 13 counts.
      [/quote]
      Yes, it is certainly going to get more interesting. I just wonder how long they will drag this out. Interesting how this is coinciding with Obama having to make a decision to either decrease or increase troops in Afghanistan.

    • João da Silva

      dnbaiacu
      Do you know why this article didn’t draw much attention from the Brasilians? Because the older generation that know a bit about Israel considers Simon Peres and all those “cumpanheiros” of his as warmongers and terrorists.Not that the Brasilian press portrays them like that, but the older and reasonably well educated generation of Brasilians know more about World affairs than the non-Brasilians are willing to give credit. They used to get news from newspapers and radios (Shortwave) and were well informed. Today I ran into a great Brasilian in his early 80À‚´s and usual, we were chit chatting for awhile about world affairs. He knows about the visits of both Simon Pires and Ahmadinejad wondered why Pires has to come rushing before the visit of the Iranian President and then stressed that we should extend the same courtesy and hospitality to Ahmadinejad we displayed to Shimon, as both of them are the Heads of their respective states and Brasilians have no business to take sides.

      As for the Fort Hood incident, I am also waiting for the evolution of the things. I hear that the Major is going to be indicted on 13 counts.

      BTW, I think that the visit of Ahmadinejad will generate more interest among the Brasilians as he is a novelty. 😉 😀

    • dnbaiacu

      Type O
      [quote]It HAD to be the “powers that be’ of an invisible that insured this guy was killed. [/quote]

      I meant “remained alive”

      I know most of what I say , few understand. 😀 Im only making it worse. .

      But how this guy wasn’t killed or didn’t kill himself has got to be some “other worldly” intervention to keep the flame burning.

    • dnbaiacu

      Joao
      [quote]I didn’t ask for your opinion [/quote

      Now you KNOW that wasn’t me 🙂
      [quote]You did! Dont be a Cheater, Liar and a Hider. Also dont be illogical.
      report abusevote downvote upVotes: 0 [/quote]

      And I suspect that wasn’t you. 😉

      I was thinking it may be China also. But it seemed to be too cliche that they would be canvassing BRIC with this circus. But I guess ,, whatever works on the unsuspecting proletariat is fine 😮
      This getting better than Barnum & Bailey ( a traveling circus in the States) 😀

      As I suspected the government sponsored media here is capitalizing on the Fort Hood massacre “psychoanalyze” the assasin and trace his ideaology to a cleric known for radical terrorist type dogma. How long we will have to hear this on the news remains to be seen. It HAD to be the “powers that be’ of an invisible that insured this guy was killed. The longer he’s alive the more we have to here this rhetoric. And to be so close to Veterans Day of all events’? Timing couldn’t be better. Dude MUST have experienced some “paranormal activity” that day.
      They are really EMPHASIZING that he ACTED ALONE. Not a good look…. You know what kind of “hysteria’ that creates in the simple minded.

    • João da Silva

      [quote]I didn’t ask for your opinion[/quote]

      You did! Dont be a Cheater, Liar and a Hider. Also dont be illogical. 😉

    • dnbaiacu

      Joao
      I didn’t ask for your opinion 🙁

    • João da Silva

      dnbaiacu
      [quote]Joao, which country is this show going to next? [/quote]

      I suspect it is going to be China, my friend. Think about it. 😉 😀

    • dnbaiacu

      Everyone knows……
      [quote]You cannot have peace without talking to everyone involved in the matter, he argued. [/quote]

      You have to look like you TRIED to be cordial. 😉

      Besides.. the U.S did it. 😉 Monkey see , monkey do. 😉 You gotta love it! Political posturing and arrogance on the economic end. Copy cat brown nosing on foriegn policy.
      Who do they have fooled! 😀 😀 😀 😀

      Joao, which country is this show going to next?

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