Brazil’s Lula Finds Culprit for Global Crisis: White People with Blue Eyes

    Brazilian Lula and British Brown

    Brazilian Lula and British Brown Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown agreed to call on G20 to provide US$ 100 billion in trade credit, a quick completion of global trade talks and for countries breaking free-trade agreement to be named.

    In a joint statement ahead of the G20 next week, PM Brown  – who arrived in Brasí­lia Thursday – , and President Lula welcomed the development of the strategic partnership between Brazil and the UK, and reaffirmed their shared vision of the world.

    "I'm going to ask the G20 summit next week to support a global expansion of trade finance to reverse a slide in world trade,"  Brown told a news conference after meeting with Lula.

    "It is absolutely vital, if we are to move forward from this recession that world trade is resumed to the benefit of all importing and exporting countries. And the US$ 100 billion proposal is the minimum we need to kick-start trade in the next month," Brown argued.

    Lula stepped in to support Brown's message and warned that protectionist measures would only bring major risks. "We have got to get investments flowing again and above all the flow of trade," said the Brazilian leader. "That is why this proposal is so important".

    "I usually compare trade protectionism with drugs" said Lula. "While people look to drugs for immediate satisfaction, what follows is deep depression. With protectionism, it's the same thing."

    The two leaders also said countries should adopt more fiscal and monetary stimulus to help combat the global economic crisis and called for tougher financial market regulations.

    Leading industrial and developing nations, including Brazil, will attend the G20 summit Brown hosts in London on April 2.

    "If the G20 becomes a meeting just to set another meeting, we'll be discredited and the crisis can deepen," Lula said during a joint press conference with Brown.

    "We must not let the crisis drag on as long as the Japanese crisis did," he said, in reference to a decade of stagnation in the Asian country.

    Lula and Brown also called for "an early and comprehensive resolution of the Doha Development Round on the basis of the significant results achieved so far."

    Brown said the international community should monitor the compliance of trade agreements and single out any violators.

    "We must name and make public those countries that break agreements they have made, that they be monitored by the World Trade Organization and abide by its rules," Brown said.

    Brown is on the third stop of a tour through Europe, Latin America and the United States to seek support for a G20 meeting of leading economies that will discuss measures to tackle the global financial crisis.

    Lula and Brown said in the joint statement that the G20 meeting was a vital opportunity to take international action required to "restore global demand through concerted and coordinated fiscal and monetary policy action."

    Some European leaders have opposed US President Barack Obama's calls to agree to larger stimulus packages at the G20 meeting.

    Brown and Lula also want the G20 to implement fundamental reforms of the international financial system and its regulations.

    "The Washington Consensus is dead," Brown said, referring to the set of policy recommendations prescribed by the IMF, the World Bank and often the US government for developing countries in crisis during the 1980s and 1990s.

    It was impossible to solve problems of 2009 with institutions created decades ago, Brown said.

    The UK strongly supports Brazil's bid to become a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council and praises its role in the G20, Brown said.

    Lula has been one of the most outspoken advocates of giving developing countries more say in multilateral organizations like the International Monetary Fund. He has also been a fierce defender of freer farm trade, trying to forge a common front among developing nations.

    Lula once again said that the economic global crisis was created by the rich countries and that the poor ones should not be penalized by the North's excesses.

    "We cannot allow that the poor pay for a crisis made by the rich, mainly because it was not generated by any black, Indian or poor. This crisis was made by white people, with blue eyes, who before the crisis knew everything and, now, know nothing," he said. 

    The Brazilian leader has often blamed the United States for causing a global crisis by practicing "casino capitalism."

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    • Paulo34

      btw Taurus and IMBEL sell millions of dollars worth of firearms in USA and those are good jobs for Brasilians yet this moron slaps the face of these trading partners with his racist diatribe.

      What an EMBARASSMENT he is and has been.

    • Paulo34

      RACIST LULA
      Lula makes Brasil a laughingstock yet again with his sutpidity.

      How much longer will Brasil need to suffer this maniac?

      He supported disarming the victims of crime with that referendum in 2005 but the PEOPLE of BRASIL said NO to his internationalist scheme.

      He should be looked at for HATE CRIME in UK for stirring up racial hatred.
      It is a CRIME there.

    • Green Eyes

      Vergonha
      [i]This crisis was made by white people, with blue eyes, who before the crisis knew everything and, now, know nothing,” he said.[/i]

      Spoken by a Brasilian with red eyes. Have another pinga, jackass.

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    • Notelpmis

      Furthermore
      Dear Laura,

      You read all the past posts now and check for “…” “..” you will see that mostly likely that the person who impersonated other people is Double-Dot and Triple-Dot here ! Also you will see that my friend the real Simpleton never talked to you here, his real and “only” post was just Hi Shelly how are you , if you check again. We all know that Shelly is a prostitute because she said it many times before on this website, whether she really wrote those posts or not that is debatable but the truth is we’ve seen her getting clients from this website all before and so many times. Just ask the men here and they will confirm it!

    • Notelpmis

      Beer 30
      It’s beer-30 and I just reprocessed umpteen thousand words I read in these posts over the last few days that were somehow locked in back in those mental cravasses. Sally2, you had asked me a decent question, the answer is yes, I am a home refresher. The beer is cold enough and much cheaper so I do prefer it. The bar is okay too from time to time. Rubbing up against the puta’s while they wail over the fact I would put my milliones into the caca-maquines vs being willing toss maybe 1/10 of the evenings expenditures on their “services”. That they might drink half the beers and smoke half the cigarrettes is but a small price just to get them to stick by me so I can piss them off with the money I throw away / they’d be pleased to earn.

      Old subject: Please folks, be quick about getting your last words in. This article is about to drop from the current list and if we don’t get the total number of posts against it up to the 400 mark or dear Joao is going to loose his job. This is his last chance given the dire economic down turn.

      Cheers Shelly1(the smart one not the .. imposter one), Costinha and Double-Dot, I must say you’ve been entertaining. I’m going to have to do my editorial / educational / illuminating explanation of the two part essay buried in the “Boy howdy” / :”Finally a decemt voice from the past” posts on some other thread. You will all like it. Very deep subjects to ponder for such a shallow devious mind!

    • Notelpmis

      Thanks Laura
      You took charge and did the research nessecary to get our case fully solved. You went back to find the first post after your own veiled allegation that you have since been using (along with a lot of Non-Shelly1 imposter posts) to keep up your tirade. Yes, I know you did come back and clarify that you originally didn’t mean to say she had actually been raped. Actually I think you might have gotten defensive of your first offensive two or three times. That really is not the point. The point is you are learning there are monsters on here and maybe just maybe gaining skills in recognizing them.

      Unfortunately now, I have let the cat out of the bag pointing out our favorite imposter whether that be you, Sally2 and Costinha or the Costinha imposter have a clear pattern of using “..” or “…” at the ends of their sentences. I see from the tirade above occuring after my own real post prior to this one that the cretin or cretins have also recognized they have been caught and are just now starting to change their patterns by avoiding the .. and … syndrome.

      Using your own “evidence” against “Shelly1”, imposter posts under either her or my own monikers, you will clearly see the beasts habit is present. Open your eyes and mind and look, you see clearly after every sentence in your prima faci evidence there ia a “..” after every sentence. The real Shelly1 does not do this – check any time she has posted and basically laughed at you. I have gone back and reviewed my own real posts and see I had a double strike at the end of a sentence only on one occasion. Look again at all “Simpleton” and “Shelly1” posts and you will see there’s two, possibly three imposters at work. You are not being insulted by me but I do find your hard headedness insulting.

      Here’s the “first” false evidence you have hung your hat on dearie:
      “Simpleton
      written by Shelly1, April 05, 2009
      If you raise your offer, I might consider it .. I will send a price table of my hour rates to your email address so you can have an idea of how much I charge.. I can bring the husband over for an extra charge on top.. “

      You are guilty of slander clear and simple and we should very much take you to court and prosecute you. Do you know what they do to stupid lawyers that get themselves convicted and incarcerated?

    • Double-Dot

      [quote]The sluts on this board are getting wild! We should have a man only board here. I want to see Shelly1, Sally2, Laura get into a mud-fight style, afterwards they can come to my boudoir and I will massage their tities.
      [/quote]

      Costinha, would you mind stop using such unacceptable terms, especially when children are involved? You can do whatever you want with Shelly, but please remember that Laura is middle aged and successful lawyer and Sally2 is an innocent child. It is a polite request on my part and hope you will concur with it.

      God Bless America

    • Simpleton

      Shelly1
      Do you think that you and I could ever be something more than just client and prostitute ???????

    • Shelly1

      HAHAHAH
      Costinha I went to your boudoir and returned many times, not going this time because you can’t afford my rates anymore !

      and Yes you have a tiny little penis (if I can call that larvae between your legs penis) and it never gave me any pleasure at all, it was just for the money but that narrow tiny larvae wouldn’t excite any woman never !

    • Sally2

      “she insults Laura here. Shelly is not a lady, she’s a hooker. Laura is a lady.”

      I agree that Lady Laura is a fine lady, even though she is a foreigner. And what about me, another little American Lady? You have anything against American children? If you have, you are another MONSTER

      God Bless America and its mediocre towns.

    • Costinha


      My penis is very small and I have erectile dysfunction, but I promise to take some viagra to please da ladies.

      – Costinha

    • Costinha


      The sluts on this board are getting wild! We should have a man only board here. I want to see Shelly1, Sally2, Laura get into a mud-fight style, afterwards they can come to my boudoir and I will massage their tities.

      Now ladies, go back home and cook me some dinner. Papa is coming home soon!

      Take Care,

      – Costinha

    • Laura

      Thanks Shelly
      I knew it wasn’t you offending me because this individual is Satanic, he is doing that to provoke me and other people here like Sally2 and he is so low that he is using your name now to get around to the fact I would prosecute him. I don’t know what he sees in me to keep on and on attacking me. I think it’s because I’m more intelligent than him but anyone can be more intelligent than him anyway.

    • Shelly1

      Laura-the failed lawyer
      I did NOT post that comment that someone calls Laura a nasty failed lawyer !!!!!!!

      [quote]That is not Shelly! I can tell that is Simpleton pretending to be Shelly to insult me ! The real Shelly wouldn’t insult anyone here[/quote]

      Yes, that’s right Laura, I would never insult you nor anyone else on here and I agree with you: I believe it’s most likely to be this Simpleton faking my ID to post things against you Laura! What a loser ! I respect you and everybody else here and this guy wrote under my name that I didn’t admit being a prostitute! I did, because like I said before, no one knows me here and Im using an imaginary nickname to preserve my real identity so I can speak out about my problems. This guy is faking my ID saying I didn’t admit it just to prove his imaginary point.

      I did say I was a prostitute because I came here for help and advice!

      Double-Dot,

      Don’t make assumptions about my character by saying I’m a horrible woman. You know so well that this Simpleton is faking my ID to post suitable comments to prove his baseless arguments and to insult Laura under my name. I’m glad she is an intelligent woman and she’s starting to realize who the fakers are here.

    • Double-Dot


      What a horrible woman this Shelly is, first she admits being a professional slut then she insults Laura here. Shelly is not a lady, she’s a hooker. Laura is a lady.

      We should gather emails in order to complain about Shelly’s use of this website to get clients. This is not the street that she normally frequents at night !

    • Laura

      And about Shelly
      She did in fact admitted she was prostitute. The following was her admission:

      [quote]written by Shelly1, April 06, 2009
      You are right.. I was in fact being open about what I do because I feel it’s easier to talk here using a screen name keeping my identity private and getting some advice…

      My story is the following:

      I was born in Rio de Janeiro, in the Favela do Alemao to be more exact… I didn’t have many opportunities in life so I was a prostitute but I always felt that my country wasn’t giving me the opportunity that a human being deserves.. then I managed to find a rich British tourist on copacabana beach and I saw that as a window to escape poverty ( I never dated a foreigner in Rio before asking about their profession)..

      Once in London, I had then the life I deserved: money and luxury…. No more prostitution.. but then My husband was transferred to America as he works for a bank and years after when the banking system collapsed and the recession last year he was fired… with no job, no income, I saw no choice but going back to my life of prostitution because that’s the only work skills I’ve ever had… it’s a difficult situation….[/quote]

    • Laura

      That’s ok !
      That is not Shelly! I can tell that is Simpleton pretending to be Shelly to insult me ! The real Shelly wouldn’t insult anyone here, and I didn’t post I will blacklist her , those were Simpleton’s words.. Nice try !

    • Shelly
      We all know you have admitted to be a prostitute! Now don’t go back on your word by offending Laura ! I’m a witness of your admission to be a cheap abused prostitute !

      Costinha

    • Laura

      WOW
      How dare you? How can you call me a failed lawyer? I am going to blacklist you. You are just a mean and horrible person. You are N.A.S.T.Y !

    • Shelly1

      Laura-the failed lawyer
      [quote]As I said, once there is an admission, in this case she clearly admits she’s a prostitute, then If I say prostitute and prostitution AFTER an admission then they are not insults but an acknowledge to a fact that she had already admitted! And I clearly show in my comments intention to help her after this admission and not to insult her (even though I repeated that more than once, it is clearly visible I said prostitution and help in the same paragraphs) which i will form the basis of my claim against you in court.[/quote]

      Laura, go back to school dear! And the Bar should have your license to practice revoked. The LSAT is the dumbest fuck exam, see dear, not only you has experience with the law. Anyway, I want you to gather the information of my admission, I think you have some deep secrets you are hiding. Maybe you are a prostitute and wants to portray yourself as a lawyer because you wished you could prosecute those who harm you.

      Nice try wanker! Get your rabbit out of you bag and go and distress.

    • Sally2

      Lady Laura, you can count me in too. It is time for someone to teach this MONSTER to respect women and children and stop calling them apes.

    • Captain Kirk

      Laura
      I know you don’t know me and I’ve just read all the comments here and I want to come forward as I was victimized by this nasty pimp too many times, if you need my email to gather strength to your complaint to the webmaster or in a court, you can count on me too.

    • ….

      Laura
      Don’t worry and don’t feel guilty! We can all see you said prostitute and prostitution after Shelly1 admitted she is a prostitute! She even admitted her life of prostitution in other articles here if you read past threads. Your intention was to get her to ask for help, but unlike what you think she didn’t admit here she was a prostitute so she could talk about it and get help, she admitted it in order to get more clients.

      [quote]Simpleton
      written by Shelly1, April 05, 2009
      If you raise your offer, I might consider it .. I will send a price table of my hour rates to your email address so you can have an idea of how much I charge.. I can bring the husband over for an extra charge on top..
      [/quote]

      As you quoted the phrase above, She is not asking for help here, she’s trying to get clients in the phrase above! This Simpleton must be her nasty pimp watching over her !

      Costinha

    • Double-Dot

      Im on this too
      I can give you my email address too Laura! Let’s take this clown out of the circus by his lead !

    • ….

      Laura
      If you want to gather complaints against this Satan here you can count on me, I can give you my email address and include me as another person being insulted repeatedly by this monster !

      Take care,

      – Costinha

    • Simpleton

      Laura
      If you want to prosecute me, bring it on bitch ! I’m rich and I have more than 10 lawyers at my side to prove you are a real hooker here, so bring it on ! I will raise this subject about you calling Shelly1 an abused prostitute just to torment your life here until you go away from this site because I’m the boss here and I don’t want you here anymore, if you want less trouble for your side I suggest you to go away and never come back stupid lawyer.

    • Laura Irwin

      Simpleton
      You bring Shelly up again again in your arguments only show once again you are the only ape here.

      This person here that I will stop referring him as a person because He sounds so Satanic to me tell me that I said Shelly1 is an abused prostitute! How dare you, you young man! Picking words again from my comments and glueing together to suit your own Demoniac mind! I never called her an abused prostitute with these two words side by side! You’d better stop being so horrible to me or anyone else otherwise We will solve our issues here outside this website in a courtroom !

      I’ve never called her an abused prostitute, and, neither have I said she was abused or raped ! I said her strong views could be because she suffered some sort of abuse/rape or something and later I amended my opinion to say that her strong views could be because something happened to someone she knows close to her not necessarily her and that was my opinion and not an insult, but my opinion that I have all the proof here to show that was an OPINION in case we go outside this site to solve issues here dear! Never called her an abused prostitute like you claim to defame me here in public as Laura is my real name…

      [quote]Simpleton
      written by Shelly1, April 05, 2009
      If you raise your offer, I might consider it .. I will send a price table of my hour rates to your email address so you can have an idea of how much I charge.. I can bring the husband over for an extra charge on top.. [/quote]

      Second, I wasn’t the first to call her a prostitute! Try to find any entry under my name that I call her a prostitute BEFORE this entry dear .. You won’t find it and that’s all I need to win a court case against you if you carry on insulting me! As I said, once there is an admission, in this case she clearly admits she’s a prostitute, then If I say prostitute and prostitution AFTER an admission then they are not insults but an acknowledge to a fact that she had already admitted! And I clearly show in my comments intention to help her after this admission and not to insult her (even though I repeated that more than once, it is clearly visible I said prostitution and help in the same paragraphs) which i will form the basis of my claim against you in court.

      Honey, I am not just a criminal lawyer, I specialize in international law too and believe me, it is easy for me to get this company here to release your IP to identify you wherever you are in the world to prosecute you, and, because you have been insulting more than me here, it would be easy to gather more people against you. Another point, I signed my real name with my real surname now and I’m making everyone aware of this, further insults from you will give just more strength to my claim that you are targeting me as a person, offending my character and my profession with things like I’m a crap lawyer and I should be cleaning mess with a mop.. Thank you..

    • Simpleton


      syndromes are hard to break. Let’s just say some highly book smart people here don’t have as much creative energy as they think they do. Very simple really. Just take every post from above and throw out the ones that don’t include two or three periods at the ends of sentences. What you will have left is maybe two or three posts that were written by the “original” and the rest were written by the troll or trolls. Repetiousness does not make believers out of everyone dear Laura. (You know the saying, if you say something long enough and loud enough after a while at least some people will start taking it as fact.) You were the first to call Shelly1 an abused prostitute, then you or someone like you chimed in under her moniker with a reenforcing statement that you then have used over and over and over and over again to try to reenforce your claim she has something deep down that needs to come out (just like you are acheing to do but just can managed to come clean with). Are you sure you’re not Ch.c’s abused wife? The persona you have tried to create as representing the real you is full of swiss cheese holes.

    • Sally2

      “You and Sally2 are the biggest apes here..

      Sally2’s ignorance is excusable because her brain has the same width of my finger nail and her school is in some suburb somewhere in a mediocre American town…”

      How dare you call me an ape with small brain. You are a big Gorilla without any brain.

    • Laura

      Simpleton
      Let me be cause I don’t want to talk to you again.. You are a monster to me, not a person with so many random insults.. you didn’t even try to know before you started your attacks towards me.. Ok blacklist me in your magical list and leave me alone..

    • Simpleton

      Laura
      You can click on the report abuse to my comments as much as you want.. You and Sally2 are the biggest apes here..

      Sally2’s ignorance is excusable because her brain has the same width of my finger nail and her school is in some suburb somewhere in a mediocre American town…

      You, on the other hand, claim to be a very intelligent lawyer but the only intelligence you have is for cleaning up mess with a mop…

      I blacklist people here because I have the brain to do so.. Furthermore, due to many months blogging here and the vast experience dealing with losers like you Laura, I know who the morons, trolls are here on this site and I will blacklist you too so no one on this site will ever talk to you again.. You will be on your own from now on with no one replying to your shit here…

      Good Day sweetheart… Kisses…

    • Laura

      Very well well
      This individual won’t stop arguing with me.. He says I repeat myself over and over like an ape.. What is he doing here by going on and on with the same argument against me? Isn’t that being an ape too with his own words? Darling spare me of that… You can’t even insult me properly…

      According to what he claims someone who comes to this site for the very first time has the obligation to know who the bad guys are here.. and If the new people here don’t they should read his articles that defines people’s characters. My dear, Im not going to read any article from you blacklisting people here because you are not a nice person yourself, a blacks sheep cannot condemn another black sheep… so I’d rather do this journey on my own, thanks!

      I said Shelly1 was a prostitute because she had already said that previously and I thought she just wanted to open up here for help, If that was not her so my apologies go to her and NOT YOU. That’s it !!! If you go on and on repeating that against me, that only proves you are more ape than you are already according to your own words…

      He seems to be some sort of Watchdog here by saying “We” welcome new visitors here.. Look at my article where I blacklist people etc.. Darling, are you the webmaster here? Or the owner of the website? What gives you the right to say those people you call troll shouldn’t be here? If they are allowed to come here and post what they post (that I still don’t know what they post but Im not interested) and if the owner of this site allows this to happen it’s because he or she feels they should be here because there are many ways to block them from using this site if he or she wanted to…

      Have you ever tried to click on the report abuse link like I did to your insults ???

      So Stop arguing with me with the same things about Shelly… Give it a rest… if you carry on, that will only prove more and more you are the king ape according to your own words darling…

    • Simpleton

      Very well
      everyone here is entitled to their own opinion and we welcome all. As you prevously asked / observed, there are a few folks who are not new here. Those that have arrived “new” like you and have stayed found some way to get over it / catch on / etc.. There are a few who have had a “regular time of it” doing tit for tats at each other like Shelly1 and Jon for quite some time. I’ve no interest in you or anyone elses tit’s as you have insuated (you lout or loutess) and I have no tat’s. Sexist? Me? You are off your rocker. If you are serious about pattern recognition and as good as you say you are about it (like your mis-identifying Shelly1 as having been raped and being in or having been in a profession in which she is / has not) go ahead and learn of your errors. If you’d like to know who some of folks are you can probably trust here, try reading my posts under the 2016 Olympics article a few down from this one. You wouldn’t get the humor as you don’t know the folks I named therein and their histories and previously devised “takeover” plans but you can a least make yourself up a list of names to use and then go skip around in other articles and read what they have to say (without responding or posting your own comments of course lest the pest follow you around). After a bit of study over time you will get to recognize how those folks are, their style, phraseology, quick witicisms, mechanics of poking “good” fun at folks including each other and hence recogonize when you are being duped. As for you, you still smack of an ill worm we had here quite some time ago. Repeating yourself over and over is one of the symptoms that ape had. Sorry if you are offended by being found guilty by simularity.

    • Laura

      You are not a nice person either
      You are the most unpleasant person Ive ever met! I told every one here that I’m new to this site as I started posting comments here just a few days ago!

      You my dear, expect a new person to distinguish between you and other people! Between good and bad people! You yourself are having problems to distinguish who is who here then you come and criticize someone who is new here because according to your sexist attitude I have the obligation to know! Spare me!

      New people come here every day, and that is the attitude of people at your level who’s been using this site for longer: play by my rules or I will insult you! Or: You have the obligation, even though you are new, to know what I post or I don’t post, who’s faking me or who’s bad! My dear, ive been using this site since a few days ago and it will take time for me to know who’s bad here! One person I know already and that is YOU

    • Simpleton

      Non-existent
      1) Anyone who could get all the way through law school without taking credits in psychology (and passing the course work!).

      2) Anyone who would believe that the capitol of Iran is somewhere in Africa just because the newspaper they read said so.

      Laura, I would never never want you to make your view different just because you feel you have been insulted or by how someone else acts – that would be terrible. Kind of something like what might happen to you if you were raped. You would only be letting yourself down. If you had been on this site several years ago when there was another nasty imposter scribing in under “A. Brazilian”s namesake you might have quite a different view of many of the things I’ve written. Abe I, II or III, as we lovingly came to call that troll, was very very sly and devious but there are some of the clear patterns from way back then occuring again now. I dare you to go back and read all of the one or two liner posts above carrying my moniker and come back and tell me you actually believed even for a Sao Paulo second, that the person who wrote them had zero effect on you AND that you knew all along that each and every one of such posts was NOT me. Ditto for going back and picking out Shelly1’s own personal comments vs the trolls fakes. You seem to like to home in on those that I would bet most folks would recognize were not hers. It suits your agenda. You’re not a nice person for the pure reason you can not reason and are all so unwilling to even try.

      I just don’t know what to tell you poor Sally2. Shelly1, can you go back through all the posts and find even one place I called you a dirty name? (Ignore my fun poking one way back which I appologized for in advance and the more recent two part fantesy episode of our family get together – I’m saving the explanation for most of what’s in there for bit longer as it’s an excersise in showing people just how much you can “stretch” your imagination, read what you want into things and end up being just dead wrong in your interpretations of other peoples words.)

      Paz

    • Laura

      but I don’t believe in anyone here anymore
      Apart from Sally2…

    • Laura

      Despite repeated attempts in “polite” ways to get her to understand what bullshit she was buying into
      You call that polite …

      Even if you were polite (which you weren’t ) You then started offending me in horrible ways and still do… Saying I am very stupid and even called me an old whore.. You have no rights to offend anyone here even if you believe that the person is buying into something which is wrong… even that doesn’t give you the right to start offending someone.. You believe that by offending me i will stop buying into what other people are saying and buy into what you’re saying…? Persuasion by insulting…

      I don’t know who this Costinha, Abe I, II, III are.. but they haven’t offended me so far.. you did.. in these circumstances a normal person would believe in the ones who havent been nasty towards them… but I don’t believe in anyone here anymore

    • Laura

      My dear Adriana
      This Simpleton is here just to insult people my dear… The more you acknowledge his nonsense the more he will insult you…

      [quote]Costinha/Laura/Sally2/Abe I, II or III / whom ever you are that seems to always post in companioned and agreeable (with each other) pairs of comment[/quote]

      This individual thinks just because I agree with Sally2 on some issues and she agrees with me We are the Evil ones here.. He is very machista and narrow-minded… I bet if I disagreed with Sally2 or anyone else on here and started agreeing with his nonsense he would be smiling and saying how wonderful I am.. but my view is and i believe it will always be different because I think he acts in a very insulting way…

      It is funny that this person also includes Costinha, Abe I, II, III to give a little bit more steam to his argument..How disgusting some people just lie here to get what they want.. I don’t even know who Costinha, Abe, I, II, III are and never agreed with anything they said..

      With regards to what this person is saying about me, I will spare myself and pretend he does not exist…

    • Adriana

      Well SImpleton
      I hate to tell you but you make no sense 😀 it’s kinda pathetic and tragic your reply you know.

      I tell you why I think Americans are unbearable. They need to be always right no matter what they have to do or say. Is that any refresh? You sound like a refresh at home, Simpleton. 😀

    • Sally2

      “Then you tell that Me and Sally2 that we are sick ? “

      Thank you so much, your honor. You are a fine lady to defend yourself and your loyal friends by coming out with fine arguments and at the end asking simple questions. I don’t know why our Sis Shelly likes to write in French to insult me further.

      Did you notice that the MONSTER has started calling Shelly by dirty names, now that he has found Adriana as his potential prey?

    • Simpleton

      A decemt voice from the past
      at last. Hi Adriana, better that Shell and I have someone other than Costinha (ala Abe I, II, III) to converse intelligently with.

      I do think you may have mis-posted slightly so I will correct with capital letter in place of your words:
      “Brazil may be a bad place to live, but living with American people, is that any better? At least Brazilian people are more bearable. Make this experience, live with them, BRASILIANS. I assure you after some years you will agree with me.”

      I do whole heartedly agree. Living with Brasilians despite some of the bad things in some places, is far and away better / more bearable than living with Americans.

      Costinha/Laura/Sally2/Abe I, II or III / whom ever you are that seems to always post in companioned and agreeable (with each other) pairs of comments, get some help. If even 1/20th of Laura’s professed experience is real she most certainly knows that out on the streets there are virtually NO female police officers in very large sections of metropolitan Brasil. As she did not even rise / make mention anything of knowing anything at all nor state being active in Lei de Maria Da Penha cases – clearly she’s as old as she claims and is not currently practicing law in Brasil. Despite repeated attempts in “polite” ways to get her to understand what bullshit she was buying into (with all the fake Shelly1, Simpleton and other posts) and propogating onward regarding Shell, she now has the audacity to critique my getting very very leud and crude and mean worded to try to shake her out of her dipstickedly stuck party line vote, Playing the “I’m so dense and stupid and nobody came out and told me exactly such and so” thus “you are being mean to me” thing. WOW, that would prove exactly what in court?.

      Anyway, onward with my crass and disgusting Double-Dot satisfying charade with Shell and my’s recent (fake) encounter: I was looking for poor young inexperienced Sally2 to come back with the “what did your wife think of that” question. She didn’t as I had offended her ignorance and now she is not talking to me so I’ll just pretend she did. Answer is I haven’t a clue, my wife didn’t even chirp up during the negotiations and was not a participant in the fireworks. All in all it was a pretty fun family evening. Later on Shell and my wife went to check on the kids at the internet cafe. A bit after they left I excused myself from Shell’s husband once again and stepped around the corner to piss in the street near to where Shell and I had finished it. Down the block I saw she and my wife making a bee line across the street to Shell’s place. Apparently they had just circled the block and Shell was drip dried enough to want to go there to trade favors. Well, that would be my guess anyway, I wasn’t there and neither of them said anything later when they showed up all happy and giggling back at the bar. Doen’st matter much what I guess at anyway, I was too much enthralled on how marvellously Shell’s hubby was raising his girls. Very happy, very enchanting, loved so much to play “horsey” on a strange gentlemens knees and lap without a care in the world. I think those two urchins are going to grow up to be real bread winners.

    • Simpleton

      Adriana
      Shelly1 is a prostitute… She enjoys to suffer, it’s part of her sexual fantasies..

    • Adriana

      hey Shelly1 dear There is a worst place to live
      Brazil may be a bad place to live, but living with American people, is that any better? At least Brazilian people are more bearable. Make this experience, live with them, Americans. I assure you after some years you will agree with me.

    • Laura

      Shelly
      [quote]I was born in Rio de Janeiro, in the Favela do Alemao to be more exact… I didn’t have many opportunities in life so I was a prostitute but I always felt that my country wasn’t giving me the opportunity that a human being deserves.. then I managed to find a rich British tourist on copacabana beach and I saw that as a window to escape poverty ( I never dated a foreigner in Rio before asking about their profession)..
      [/quote]

      Am I implying you were/are a prostitute? I didn’t say that my dear… That was you !!!! Who’s sick ? Not me…

    • Laura

      Dear Shelly
      You must be really sick because that is you who have multiple personalities…

      I don’t understand your behavior: 1st of someone who had some sort of abuse either yourself or someone close to you, 2nd you being open for being a prostitute and asking for help and 3rd you being an anti-brazil campaigner …

      Then you tell that Me and Sally2 that we are sick ? Look in the mirror my dear …

    • Shelly1

      This is the REAL BRAZIL
      [quote]O PDT entrou com uma aÀƒ§Àƒ£o no STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) na qual questiona a competÀƒªncia do TSE (Tribunal Superior Eleitoral) para julgar pedidos de cassaÀƒ§Àƒ£o de deputados estaduais e federais, senadores, governadores e vices.

      No entendimento do partido, os recursos contra a expediÀƒ§Àƒ£o de diploma para esses cargos deveriam ser apresentados ao TRE (Tribunal Regional Eleitoral) de cada Estado. Isso porque sÀƒ£o os tribunais regionais que expedem os diplomas.

      Para o PDT, o TSE deve julgar apenas eventuais recursos apresentados contra as decisÀƒµes dos tribunais regionais.

      O PDT sustenta sua posiÀƒ§Àƒ£o com base no artigo 121 da ConstituiÀƒ§Àƒ£o Federal. O artigo diz que das decisÀƒµes dos TREs somente caberÀƒ¡ recurso quando tratarem sobre inelegibilidade ou expediÀƒ§Àƒ£o de diplomas nas eleiÀƒ§Àƒµes federais ou estaduais e no caso de perda do mandato.

      “A interposiÀƒ§Àƒ£o de recurso para o Tribunal Superior Eleitoral pressupÀƒµe decisÀƒ£o de tribunal regional”, diz o PDT na aÀƒ§Àƒ£o.

      Para o PDT, quando os pedidos de cassaÀƒ§Àƒ£o sÀƒ£o julgados diretamente no TSE, eventuais discordÀƒ¢ncias sÀƒ³ podem ser questionadas no prÀƒ³prio tribunal, o que para o partido prejudica a defesa do acusado. AlÀƒ©m disso, ressalta que serÀƒ¡ impossÀƒ­vel ao TSE colher provas nos pedidos que chegam ÀƒÂ  Corte.

      Na aÀƒ§Àƒ£o, o PDT pede que a Corte conceda liminar para suspender a tramitaÀƒ§Àƒ£o de todos os recursos contra expediÀƒ§Àƒ£o de diploma no TSE e que no julgamento do mÀƒ©rito determine a competÀƒªncia dos TREs para julgarem pedidos contra expediÀƒ§Àƒ£o de diploma. O relator da aÀƒ§Àƒ£o Àƒ© o ministro Ricardo Lewandowski.[/quote]

      Brazil e um lixo e sempre sera!

    • Shelly1

      AL MULA BIN LULA
      LULA is a demagogue and has less education than my daughter. A new rant from dumbass Mula:
      [quote]
      “NÀƒ³s vamos ter um segundo trimestre melhor do que o primeiro, e um terceiro melhor do que o segundo, para a gente chegar no fim do ano com a situaÀƒ§Àƒ£o normalizada – disse Lula, destacando que a crise econÀƒ´mica vai acabar primeiro no Brasil que em outros lugares.
      Em seu discurso, Lula destacou que UniÀƒ£o, estados e municÀƒ­pios terÀƒ£o que reduzir despesas e ‘apertar os cintos’.

      Ele afirmou que Àƒ© preciso torcer e rezar para que a crise acabe logo nos paÀƒ­ses desenvolvidos, para que voltem a comprar dos paÀƒ­ses em desenvolvimento.

      – Temos que torcer, torcer como nunca, pedir a Deus para que essa crise desapareÀƒ§a na Europa, desapareÀƒ§a nos Estados Unidos, desapareÀƒ§a no JapÀƒ£o, porque esses paÀƒ­ses, como sÀƒ£o os mais ricos do mundo, precisam vender e comprar. E eles nÀƒ£o estÀƒ£o comprando. Se eles nÀƒ£o estÀƒ£o comprando, vai dificultar para os paÀƒ­ses em desenvolvimento vender para eles. AÀƒ­, nÀƒ³s teremos mais problemas aqui dentro – apontou. [/quote]

      O globo http://oglobo.globo.com/economia/mat/2009/04/06/lula-economia-da-sinais-de-recuperacao-reacao-ocorrera-no-2-semestre-755157331.asp

      Brazil, once a joke always a joke!!!! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉

    • Shelly1

      good old laugh
      Costinha really makes me laugh with all of the impersonation here. Favala do Alemao, hahahahahahahah.

      Costinha, I feel sorry for you 😥 😥 😥 😥

      Let’s see:

      Costinha = laura = Sally2, who else?

      Costinha is a sick person, let’s be kind to him. His has multiple personalities, one might end up wanting to commit suicide or kill someone. So let’s just be nice to him- 😉

      So Costinha, sorry, Laura. Learn something here. You think you know a lot but actually you have the knowledge of a single celled amoeba. So dear Laura (wink), do not imply that I was somehow abused or a prostitute, because neither is true. There is only one truth here, dear Laura, you are sick too. Get some help!

    • Sally2

      ” Sally2, your brain is the size of a nut cut in half”

      Mr.Simpleton, you are a Monster for trying to humiliate me.I am not going to talk to you anymore.

    • Shelly1

      Dear Laura
      You are right.. I was in fact being open about what I do because I feel it’s easier to talk here using a screen name keeping my identity private and getting some advice…

      My story is the following:

      I was born in Rio de Janeiro, in the Favela do Alemao to be more exact… I didn’t have many opportunities in life so I was a prostitute but I always felt that my country wasn’t giving me the opportunity that a human being deserves.. then I managed to find a rich British tourist on copacabana beach and I saw that as a window to escape poverty ( I never dated a foreigner in Rio before asking about their profession)..

      Once in London, I had then the life I deserved: money and luxury…. No more prostitution.. but then My husband was transferred to America as he works for a bank and years after when the banking system collapsed and the recession last year he was fired… with no job, no income, I saw no choice but going back to my life of prostitution because that’s the only work skills I’ve ever had… it’s a difficult situation….

    • Simpleton

      Laura
      You are the most stupid arrogant old whore I’ve ever met in my entire life…. Why don’t you just go away?

      Sally2, your brain is the size of a nut cut in half

    • Laura

      Furthermore,
      Before you choose and pick the phrase I said: I didn’t call Shelly a prostitute and take that out of the whole comment to build up a different context as you have been doing… the phrase I didn’t call Shelly a prostitute refers to I didn’t call her a prostitute in the malicious way that people do here.. I’m just acknowledging what she already said here and I believe she is open about that because she wants help…

      That’s all !!! If I’m right or wrong, that’s up to Shelly to tell me.. not other people.. Thank you very much

      P.S. Don’t call Sally2 stupid.. This is an open website and if her opinion doesn’t fit your tiny moral box you should discuss it like a man and not a sexist or child by offending someone here…

    • Laura

      Oh Dear
      Simpleton,

      I refuse to get low as you are doing now.. Choosing and picking phrases I said to build up a different context to suit your point, thus believing that this new context justifies you offending me… EVEN, if you disagree with my views and experience THAT doesn’t give you the right to go insulting people my dear.. Now I know who else is here just to mess around and therefore this is the last comment that I refer your name…

      Yes she exaggerated about her generic claim that women who have just been raped having a hard time by the police because we all know that many of the Brazilian police are women themselves but it does happen, not in the nationwide scale as she says.. AND for the fact I said this is talk about someone who experienced that before DOESNT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO OFFEND ME OR ANYONE ELSE… I later amended my comment by saying i truly didn’t mean to say that because it something like that could have happened to anyone close to her that she knows about.. but people like you don’t allow amendments on this forum and choose and pick phrases by others to get a different context out of it… but even that doesn’t give you the right to offend me..

      [quote]written by Shelly1, April 05, 2009
      If you raise your offer, I might consider it .. I will send a price table of my hour rates to your email address so you can have an idea of how much I charge.. I can bring the husband over for an extra charge on top..
      [/quote]

      My dear, I didn’t call Shelly a prostitute, I just acknowledged the fact that she had already admitted it.. I know this has nothing to do with a court, but as example, in court cases we don’t regard women like that, as: The X woman who was in the Y street looking for men for sex and money.. Once there is a confession we use the generic words prostitute and prostitution.. because that’s what they are generic… Using these words with a woman who is NOT, it is then an insult with a woman who is admitting it, it is not.. unlike whore, hooker which are horrible words to call a woman regardless if they are or not a prostitute.. likewise as Alcoholic, if you are alcoholic and I call you alcoholic either in court or in real life Im acknowledging a fact but if you aren’t then it is an insult..

      Don’t come to me to talk about sensitiveness young man.. and even if you think Im being insensitive and my insensitiveness doesn’t fit your tiny moral box that DOESN”T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO INSULT ME… Just raising concern would be good enough.. but be as low as you are that is very childish… therefore, spare me from your insults and choose and pick my phrases to build a different context …

      Shelly is being so open with what she’s being doing like the phrase she’s saying above and I’m acknowledging it is prostitution because I strongly believe if she’s saying such things in the open here It’s because she wants to talk about it.. It’s much easier for a woman to use an imaginary nickname on a website and talk about sensitive issues openly here than in person with strangers …

      I’m not going to turn a blind eye to what she’s saying and tell her it’s ok or ignore her.. Im going to talk about it … but unfortunately there are many sexist men like you who see things in different ways and don’t accept that there are different angles to the same screen.. and the way i see things are different than yours but the truth is you shouldn’t go insulting people… so Spare me my dear..

    • Simpleton

      Boy howdy
      Gays, Double-Dot, you just wouldn’t believe. The strike price was a hunerd bucks but with all the dancing around, jockeying for position, etc., etc., there was way too much tension and we ended up just doing it quick standing up. It was exquisite and we both fired off big time more or less instaneously. BUT BUT BUT, you would have thought I would have known better in dealing with a Brasilian. After paying for the beers she only had seventy five left and I had little choice but to settled out of court. What, call a cop? Contact my Lawyer Laura? You’ve got to be kidding right? Next time it’s going to be no adiante so por ela.

      SallyTwo, I never said you “brought” anything here – you “bought” – (try checking the difference between past tenses for “bring” and “buy” in your dictionary). Now go back to school – even my notoriously horrendous spelling skills can’t make up for what you are missing.

    • Sally2

      “Sally2’s youth can be used in her defense for her having bought into some of the bullshit here and being groomed to think such”

      Mr.Simpleton, what bullshit did I bring here? I suggest you mind your manners. I don’t think you are an American and if you were, God save our country from lecherous old men like you. Do you know that you are highly obnoxious and offensive towards the people from our Latin Counties? Sir, you may be rich , but you are crass and boorish like your future trophy for which you are bidding.

      Have a nice week.

    • Simpleton

      Factoids defining Laura:
      I’m Brazilian living in Brazil and a woman
      it’s totally talk from someone who experienced some sort of machismo and rape in Brazil
      it’s letting this horrible event to cloud her judgement here
      Saying that the police give a hard time for us women here who have been raped
      I didn’t mean to say you were raped or abused etc.
      I’m a lawyer and I always deal with cases of domestic violence and rapes
      with my experience dealing with criminal law for over 20 years

      I do think your experience goes back quite a ways and has had much more of a damaging impact on you than you are willing now, even after all this time and all this talk, and the line of work you claim to be into to admit what your real story is to anyone. You were raped and there was no justice for you. I do feel sad for that to have happened in your life but don’t drag other’s into your morass by including them with the “us women here who have been raped” thing and you prostitutes (meaning your situation before you became a lawyer) . . . thing..

      This does explain why you were being such a dipstick and kept repeating that Shelly1 was raped and was / still is a prostitute. Sally2’s youth can be used in her defense for her having bought into some of the bullshit here and being groomed to think such. As much of the crapola was not posted by Shelly1 and in many many cases where my moniker appears in a post near to her’s, that would be ditto – it wasn’t posted by me. (Yes this is the first time I’m caveing in to the cretin and felt I had to post “that wasn’t me” as you can clearly see so many other folks have already done, some even just gave up and stopped doing so / posting altogther as they said they would.). You, at your age, experience level and profession – it’s simply unforgivable / entirely unbelievable the way you are continueing on. You have commited slander and more. You are damaging anyone’s chance of believing there is any inteligence there at all. Sharks like you should be tossed back into the sea near the chinese fishing vessels so you can be caught, finned and served up on someone’s dinner plate. You are worse than the heJerks on here.

    • Double-Dot

      Simpleton
      What is the final quote?

      God bless America

    • Sally2

      “Im not judging you nor am I making any assumptions about the reasons why you chose to be a prostitute, but the solution my dear is not much for you to be outspoken about women rights but get some professional help to get you out of this life completely because you’re swimming with sharks with this “profession” “

      You sound very motherly, Miss Laura. The thing I liked about you the most is that , in spite of being a lawyer and a foreigner, you have a human touch while dealing with unfortunate women of ill fame.I am pleased to make your acquaintance, ma’am. I wish I could write English like you do. As for our Sis Shelly, she needs to frequent the church more often and confess all her sins.

    • Laura

      Thanks Sally2
      and No, no one has offended me, and I hope no one will because I did not come here to be offended … I give respect and hope to get that back…

    • Laura

      Hi
      Dear Simpleton,

      As I said, I’m new to this site and I imagine Im not the first nor the only one. I believe there are new people appearing here to comment every week or perhaps every day! How can I possibly distinguish the serious ones from the ones who are messing ?

      What I initially said about my dear Shelly as I repeat, I said I didn’t say she was raped or something… I pointed out that her opinion that women who have just been raped in Brazil get a hard time from the police.. I said that was a little bit exaggerated probably because she had some experience (not necessarily with her herself) but with another member of the family, a friend, etc…

      As I said my dear, I’m a lawyer and you said I sound like a psychologist.. That is called life experience as I’m not a young woman anymore, when you get at my age you will understand…. and as for me being a criminal lawyer I have dealt with cases involving women many times before and I see the same patterns of women too scared to speak out repeating all the time.. some of them don’t come forward just because of the well-being of their children afraid that they won’t be able to support/feed their children without their abusive men.. Yes, women always put their children first no matter what happens to them… So there are many reasons why women don’t speak out..

      I admire women like Shelly who are brave and stand up for our rights and I may also say that I admire her husband too who probably supports her claims and doesn’t say things that men usually say: You women, you always want more rights, stop being so feminist etc.. We still don’t have not even 10% of the same rights as men..

      All, I said for Shelly was she was exaggerating a little bit by saying that police in Brazil give women who have just been raped a hard time, because let’s not forget that many of those police people in Brazil are women themselves.. but I do understand where she’s coming from because there is what she calls a hard time by the police.. but with my experience dealing with criminal law for over 20 years, this hard time by the police mostly appear in isolated areas/cities of Brazil where unfortunately anything related to law don’t seem to work as well as other cosmopolitan cities… (and Im not saying cosmopolitan cities in Brazil are great either) but I back Shelly 100% on this, Brazilian men are very sexist …

      Dear Shelly,

      I admire you for speaking out and being so outspoken because that was how we women managed to get some rights in the first place and there is still a long way to go… Now people told me there are some individuals here such this Costinha who are here just to mess around… However, he said you have sex with strangers for sexual gratification but you yourself said you do that for money and you even sent some quotes for the hour by email to a man here as I read. Nevertheless, prostitutes (either for money or not) are the ones who suffer the most with men.. and I do have experience dealing with such cases in court.. You are all abused frequently because sleeping with strangers is like swimming with sharks, you never know when you will be attacked..

      Im not judging you nor am I making any assumptions about the reasons why you chose to be a prostitute, but the solution my dear is not much for you to be outspoken about women rights but get some professional help to get you out of this life completely because you’re swimming with sharks with this “profession”

    • Sally2

      “Sorry you and Sally2, who also has come to new found interest in this site for her own reasons, have been given such a bad taste”

      You don’t have to feel sorry ,sir. The gentlemen didn’t offend me at all. Very polite and informative, in spite of their being foreigners. I was surprised to read that one of them even works for a female boss. Sis Laura is another real lady and nobody offended her either.

    • Simpleton

      One more thing
      Laura and Sally2, you might take heed of the real Shelly1’s perceptions of some things. Maybe having a different set of unpublished rules for you women folk is in order. For the few hard core machista’s that you will encounter herein I think all may recognize that them seeing girls fondle each other and stroke each other up with their words some how drives them in to an enraged frenzy. Even when your words, politeness, respect to each other is entirely on par with similar things said by some of our notables like Joao, Double-Dot, Professor, although you may not realize it, you’re just egging them on – making them feel even more inadequate. I suggest (although it will go against your grain) that you find ways to agree / disagree / supplement / support each other without actually making direct addresses or acknowledgements to or between yourselves. Also best you don’t find fault with each other (and especially in areas wherein you are / have been duped by imposters or don’t yet know where you are each coming from / may be being factious about such and so) – you would be just playing into the bturds hands, aiding in their character assassination ploys.

    • Simpleton

      care to watch the Troll’s?
      Don’t worry Laura, the sicko posting as Costinha at times (Is it really Costinha or is it the A. Brazillian I, II or III we had issues with long ago?) nor anyone else has seen enough of your “style” to mimic you well enough for anyone to think you are anyone but who you are / quickly recognize when your moniker has been hijacked. Sorry you and Sally2, who also has come to new found interest in this site for her own reasons, have been given such a bad taste. When new / better / diffently subjected articles come around, things will get better and the limited entertainment the troll or troll’s have taken will be diffused or subside. You will however still have a few that will press your buttons a bit – count on it. (It’s good to have one’s way of thinking pushed out side the box from time to time).

      Are we up to four hundred yet? Come on folks, you know you want to.

      E.U. Maluco

    • Laura

      For those of you who think I’m Costinha… I am who I said I am, I’m new to this site and I don’t know people here as you seem to know each other well…

      Thanks Sally2..

    • Simpleton

      Pass on that DD
      Better offers have been extended to me. Four hayai for oral from the seven year old, ten to bugger the rear of her big sis, gratis to have vovo remove her denture’s and allow anything and everything. Kind of like bowling, when you’re good, no problem to pick up a 4-7-10 split, when you’re very good you just land a strike and knock ’em all down. I’m usually one or the other – being in the gutter (content providing-wise) as I have been here of late is a bit atypical for me but it seems it’s what the crowd demands. (Besides, I doubt Shell could get my offer firm, her scents aren’t quite right to provoke it since her hubby got another one started baking in the oven. Can’t smell the heat, stay out of the kitchen I always say.)

      Sorry to see Scotty has beamed up Capt Crunch, we’ll miss him. Hopefully he won’t go stale before Shelly’s little ones are ready to graduate from Cheerios.

      Dotty-Dotty, I didn’t really finger Costa for being the funster but if you say it was heshe it was heshe, nobody is going to challenge your word. Here, let me try this again:
      “many” Dot-Dot’s ” take emotional actions and not rational ones after being abused by men… , naw, forget that, that just doesn’t fit right.

    • Sally2

      “I’m a lawyer and I always deal with cases of domestic violence and rapes, and, many women feel so ashamed to come forward to tell people what’s really going on.. So It’s not just fear of more beatings, but the “vergonha” of telling anyone that this is happening to them.. It can happen to anyone.. I really admire your attitude of talking about it, either if it’s because of personal experience that something happened to you or to a friend/family or not.. We women should never feel ashamed to condemn what many men do against us..”

      Thank you maÀ‚´m for siding with the women. You sound so much like our Ex First Lady Laura Bush and write much better English than her husband, in spite of you being a foreigner and he a native born American.

      Though you are upset with our sister Shelly with plenty of reasons, I beg you not to leave this site. We need intelligent and educated women like you to be supportive of our cause.

    • Double-Dot

      [quote]I haven’t received any email from you yet Shell.. Do you still want to meet up for a beer and more just the two of us ?[/quote]

      You haven’t made a firm offer yet. May be you should upgrade your final figures by a few more cents.

      God bless America

    • Captain Kirk

      I haven’t written the above comment
      The last comment with the name of [u]Capatain[/u] Kirk wasn’t mine… Although I find Costinha a pathetic being, I would never make threats to hurt him or anyone else on this site.. Someone is also faking my ID here and implying that I will hurt people physically..

      I’m OUT of this old thread here… ANYONE who posts things on this thread in my name is not me…

      Get help Costinha

    • Capatain Kirk

      Costinha, Brazil’s version of Sybil, or worse?
      I’ve lost count of possible Costinha personalities on this site. He’s certainly a whackjob, but, given his deep and raw hatred for women, he will probably end up this century’s Marc Lepine. I can deal with the dog n pony show, and his many faces, but someone in his immediate surroundings will get hurt one day.

      Seek help Costinha, it’s obvious to all you’re not well.

    • Simpleton

      Double-Dot
      [quote]How can you be so sure that Costinha is faking ID’s and creating all the personas who disagree with Shelly1??? Disagreeing with Shelly or being stupid enough to believe in jerks does not necessarily mean the work of a person

      Are you a hacker or a chinese spy ? [/quote]

      I’m neither.. I’m superman with X-Ray vision.. I can see whoever disagrees with Shelly and me is Costinha..

    • Double-Dot

      Just out of interest
      How can you be so sure that Costinha is faking ID’s and creating all the personas who disagree with Shelly1??? Disagreeing with Shelly or being stupid enough to believe in jerks does not necessarily mean the work of a person

      Are you a hacker or a chinese spy ?

      God bless America

    • Simpleton

      Although
      There is no way to really find out who is really who and who is personating who here… We should really meet just the two of us to discuss this over a beer, then you will really know who I really am and that I would never use multiple personas and IDs here

    • Simpleton

      Missed the Clue / Cue / Cu
      “many” Costinha’s ” take emotional actions and not rational ones after being abused by men… I think maybe we’ve finally gotten to the bottom of heshe’s case. Possesing multiple personas is a bit wierd but being open minded as I am I can see how it might be quite gratifying. In some people’s cases though it’s just a symptom of their sickness.

    • Simpleton

      By the way
      I haven’t received any email from you yet Shell.. Do you still want to meet up for a beer and more just the two of us ?

    • Simpleton

      Funny Dude
      that Laura sucker is. He’s got Shelly1 pinned (on imposter based “inputs”) as being an abused ex-pro from the favelas that has and is still being or doing something self destructive that has her unhappy and totally unsatisfied with her wee winky’d Brit husband’s expiring H-1B. FIrst shoot all the lawyers (especially those with 4 credits in psychology!) I wonder if our professed advogado and especialista has (or even can) solve the puzzle that MOM is just WOW upside down.

      (Sorry Shell, I couldn’t resist tossing in some entertaiment for the regular jerks – close your eyes and pretend I didn’t poke fun at you / your mate, no doubt I’ll invoke crassness and help our webmaster Joao meet his quota to get 400 comments posted against some article / any article – he’s had a bit of a dry spell here lately.)

    • Laura

      Costinha
      OH Really??? That is just disgusting … She’s so hypocrite… I’m not going to waste my time talking to her then.. I’m out of this thread..

      Thanks Costinha…

    • ……

      Laura
      [quote]Women like you who sleep with strangers for money are more likely to be abused.. Have you ever looked for help to get you out of prostitution ? If so, you shouldn’t be ashamed of talking about the reasons why you went into a life like that and figure out solutions to change your lifestyle and improve quality of life.[/quote]

      Shelly is not doing that because of money itself, it’s mostly because of the sexual gratification she gets out of it …

      Costinha

    • Laura

      Dear Shelly1
      I didn’t mean to say you were raped or abused etc… I was saying that many women take emotional actions and not rational ones after being abused by men… I’m a lawyer and I always deal with cases of domestic violence and rapes, and, many women feel so ashamed to come forward to tell people what’s really going on.. So It’s not just fear of more beatings, but the “vergonha” of telling anyone that this is happening to them.. It can happen to anyone.. I really admire your attitude of talking about it, either if it’s because of personal experience that something happened to you or to a friend/family or not.. We women should never feel ashamed to condemn what many men do against us..

      However, my admiration for you has totally gone now by reading you saying you work by “renting” your body to men.. Women like you who sleep with strangers for money are more likely to be abused.. Have you ever looked for help to get you out of prostitution ? If so, you shouldn’t be ashamed of talking about the reasons why you went into a life like that and figure out solutions to change your lifestyle and improve quality of life.. I hope all the best for you my dear…

    • Notelpmis

      WOW
      I can see everybody is obviously very very bored. Nothing more to do than to try to match make for people who are seriously not interested?

      As to e-mail addresses, hmmm, let me think here a moment . . . Oh yah, now I remember – Anybody ever bother to try to contact our favorite dancer AnnaP back when her life disintegrated? Anybody ever offer her more than just kind words and well wishes? Wonder who offered to buy her slightly damaged auto should she need to liquidate it upon return to her family in Brasil, open their home to her and her young son (after gaining the wife’s permission of course) for ensuring stability / recovery time / a chance at life rebuilding for a “reasonable” period of time or perhaps just for a short stop upon passing through the area to pick up flights from an airport that she could have gotten much more economical tickets to fly out from? Must have been that perv that really hangs it out there in search of deperate housewives and easy picking’s victims of despair, distress and lonelyness.

      Sorry Shell, no e-mail addresss for you. Didn’t manage to link up with Blanchette at Shenanigan’s either. Closest I got was a night playing snooker up in Pavaozinho which is pretty darn close to his neck of the woods and a good vantage point to fire off a round into some else we know’s back window. (If you’re still out there bud, sorry I forgot to bring you the bullet proof glass but you never gave me the dimensions anyway.)

    • Shelly1

      Simpleton
      If you raise your offer, I might consider it .. I will send a price table of my hour rates to your email address so you can have an idea of how much I charge.. I can bring the husband over for an extra charge on top..

      .

    • Double-Dot

      [quote]As for me, sorry for not agreeing with your offer.[/quote]

      What if Simpleton raises his offer?

    • Shelly1

      Simpleton
      Dear, I am not that naive…thanks for the e-mail, but it is sad that you would want to leave your wife and kids behind. As for me, sorry for not agreeing with your offer.

      Take care.

    • Shelly1

      Costinha
      You delusional Sally 2 and Shelly1 conversation is quite funny, anything else mamma’s boy?

    • Sally2

      “Oh no … My husband doesn’t know anything… He doesn’t need to know I’ve been meeting men from the internet, Im a very independent woman and I don’t let men tell me what to do..”

      You seem to have a henpecked husband or he has so many mistresses with all the money in his wallet that he doesn’t care. Are you looking for another rich man on the Internet? Mr.Simpleton seems to be interested in you. Probably he knows you have terminated your relationship with Captain Dick. Good luck, Sis.

    • Shelly1

      Sally2
      Oh no … My husband doesn’t know anything… He doesn’t need to know I’ve been meeting men from the internet, Im a very independent woman and I don’t let men tell me what to do..

    • Sally2

      Shelly1
      Do you usually date strange men off the internet ? My boyfriend would become very jealous if I started dating men off the internet .. is your husband ok with you dating him ? or are you divorcing ?

    • ….

      if you want to find out where I met my husband give your email and then we can talk over a beer if you are in the States.
      Shelly planning an affair … Simpleton must be a very rich guy cause that’s what Shelly is after here…

    • Simpleton

      Hi Shelly
      [quote] give your email and then we can talk over a beer if you are in the States. Bring your lady and I will bring our pivetinhos.[/quote]

      Yes, sure.. I love beer, but I’d rather leave the wife and the kids behind, just the two of us alone 😉 My email is alanphes@hotmail.com

    • Shelly1

      Sally2
      Costinha is playing his tricks again, and no, I don’t marry people for their money. But they have to at least look good! 😉

    • Shelly1

      Simpleton
      Do you have the Maria da Penha link? I would like to read that. Reading your post was illuminating in many ways about what has been said here. And by the way, before I was a mom, I lived in the U.K. so if you want to find out where I met my husband give your email and then we can talk over a beer if you are in the States. Bring your lady and I will bring our pivetinhos.

      Peace.

      Thanks 🙂

    • Shelly1

      violence and human right’s abuse against women in Brazil! (Latin American)
      http://www.LibertadLatina.org/Crisis_Indigenous_LatAm_Brazil_Index.htm

      “Usually their assailants have been gunmen hired by claimants to the land the Indians occupy. These gunmen operate with near impunity. Military police responsible for carrying out land evictions have reportedly beaten and tortured the Pataxo-ha-ha-hae. After a military police raid on the Pataxo-ha-ha-hae community in 1985, 20 Indians, including
      five pregnant women, needed medical treatment for their injuries.”

      Women and machismo in Brazil—A travel guide for women doing business in Brazil

      http://www.brazilbrazil.com/bizwoman.html

      [quote]
      TIPS FOR BUSINESSWOMEN GOING TO BRAZIL

      Another essay from the distant past….
      What problem? We don’t have no problem.
      We can’t help it if we are real men and the rest of the world has gone sissy.
      And besides, that gringa is probably frigid too, or wears big shoes…
      (famous last words of the Macho!!)
      [quote]

      Nice article by a Brazilian doctor Dr. Sergio Luis Goncalves de Freitas

      http://74.125.93.104/search?q=cache:8w16nC79zGEJ:www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/brazil.html machismo in brazil&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

      [quote]Brazil being a typically Latin and machismo society, males enjoy a superior, almost demigod status. This is reinforced by the economic dependence of women. Only about 18 percent of the women are employed outside the home; the majority devote their time to caring for their house and children[/quote].

      My case is proven beyond reasonable doubt!!!! 😀 😀 😀

    • Simpleton

      Ain’t Ain’t a word
      but as I have encountered it I will use it anyway. Affluent?? Good g no gal, I’m certainly not in that class relative to many I have encountered. I cherish at least the memories of the small life where I was born – don’t besmirch that, please. Maybe I can only go back there again from time to time and see how things have “changed”, see what pieces of “old” money’d families (not mine of course) and poor families alike that still remain. Chasing rich “locals” vs rich “foreigners” is / was an option for sure but underneath it all that is not what any of us is all about (except one cunhado of mine).

      (BTW, Forrest’s wife’s name is Fatima and no doubt she keeps him in line as does mine. I don’t think / didn’t say they owned territory in Texas. Actually, what they / he may have is in the care of her family in Brasil. Does that make that sweet old gal one of your foreigner chasing golddiggers or are you suggesting it makes him one?)

    • Shelly1

      Oh boy, Maluf, Costinha, Double-dot and Laura
      How sad is it for costinha to impersonate me again? When you will learn little boy.

      For the delusional people here:

      Man like you are a danger to women, not only in America, but around the world.

      Brazil has very serious issues with womens rights’ just read the pdf STUDY again. Maybe you guys have some reading comprehension problems, sorry if I offended you by giving you a piece of research to read!

      Laura, this is my opinion, but I think you are wrong. You are judging my comments as if I was raped. What if it was true? Still none of your business. The fact that I said that machismo is HUGE ISSUE IN BRASIL, is what you seem to have a problem with. I have lived in many countries, but Brazil is one that stands out as the worst case. As I said, violence against women can be done in several ways, words are at times worst than actions. Therefore, the idiots of these board are machistas and do abuse women. They feel the urge to do in a society, but because they would go to jail, they use a blog to find a sacrificial lamb. They can hide, but they cannot run from their own conscience. They will always be that way, many other women like Andrea, have been clearly abused here. They want a all male party here, but guess what? I am not leaving.

      Secondly, do you remember about a 14 year old girls who was raped not only by the prisoners, but some of the prison guards were involved as well? Read the pdf file, then contact the professor and get a second opinion. You will soon see that I am right. Now, doing a google search such as Machismo in Brazil, I found an article published by this magazine on the issue. Out of 58 countries, Brazil stand 51st place on the report, no one can deny that. And as for being a favelada, nice try!!! Now, that is the other problem here, anything said or done against a country which is backwards, is a reason to belittle somone’s social status. It happens all the time in Brazil, not only the men here are abusers, but also they make fun of the poor in Brazil. Go back to the article, Americans aren’t dumb, you all are. What is the minimum wage again in Brazil? What is the number of street kids living in Brazil? How many people die in SP or RJ? What is the literacy rate in Brazil? How many women hold high ranking office in government in Brazil?

      Please, Me poupe das suas asneiras!

      [quote]International Study Shows Machismo Is Still King in Brazil
      Written by Juliana Andrade
      Thursday, 07 July 2005

      Brazil appears in 51st place in the report, “The Power of Women, an Evaluation of Global Gender Inequalities,” which assesses gender inequalities in 58 countries.

      The study, published by the World Economic Forum, was be presented today in BrasÀƒ­lia, in the presence of the Minister of the Special Secretariat of Policies for Women, NilcÀƒ©a Freire.

      According to the Minister, Brazil occupies this position chiefly as a result of situations of violence against women and inequalities in the job market. Sweden is first in the ranking, and Egypt, last.

      “We hope that, with the implementation of the National Plan of Policies for Women, we will be taking a decisive step for the country to get out of this position, which is, at the very least, I would say, embarrassing for us,” Freire commented in an interview with RadiobrÀƒ¡s.

      The Minister said that the conclusions of the report didn’t surprise her. “The situation of inequality between men and women in the country is well-known, which is why we exist. It was this comprehension of the dimension of the inequality that led President Lula, attuned to the concerns of women and the social movements, to create the Secretariat.”

      In Freire’s view, to change this situation, “government action is necessary not only in the sense of formulating and implementing policies that enable women to gain greater autonomy and equal opportunities, but also to allow women to dispute this space in society, in a solidary but also very combative way, because no government will do away with historically based machismo,” the Minister pointed out.
      [/quote]

      http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/3116/54/

    • Sally2

      “I remember once visiting Forrest’s territory in Texas.”

      I did not know that Mr.Gump was a Texan and owned a huge territory there, Mr.Simpleton. Everyday you one learns new things with strangers.

      “If all you have what love you is family and significant other, Sally2, you live a small life indeed.”

      Is there anything wrong in living a small life where you were born, instead of chasing rich foreigners to get married to? You have your life and I have my so called small life, sir. I know affluent people like you have their own lives, traveling to Latin Counties, buying expensive gifts to their ladies and taking them on expensive trips. I don’t belong to your class and surely don’t want either. I wish you all the happiness in the world.

    • Simpleton

      Eu nao estou
      no minha pais. Guess that makes me estranho. All I know is that where ever I go, I am this only a short while. I remember once visiting Forrest’s territory in Texas. After less than two months I had some old gal at a bar calling me a dammed liar. She just refused to believe I was not from / did not grow up someplace very close by – even pinned my “accent” to a very localized zone nearby where we were at the time. She just about shit bricks when I showed my driver’s license. (In case anybody is wondering, the opposite of xenophobia can be found just about anywhere in the world including Brasil.)

      If all you have what love you is family and significant other, Sally2, you live a small life indeed.

    • Sally2

      “No one love’s you poor Sally2? “

      Sir, my parents,brothers, sisters and my boyfriend love me.

      [quote]Do you know about some of the marvellous things Shelly1 has done before she got too wrapped up in mommying?[/quote]

      I really don’t know what she did and it is not my business.
      Are you a foreigner too?

    • Simpleton

      Que?
      Of course she does Sally2, if she did not know (either before, during or after) she would not be my wife. Our adopted kids (who are not her’s nor mine biologically speaking) whether that be those that are formally so or are those that are just so “in spirit” are also pretty much fully aware (both here and there). But as some of them are still just “kids”, they have more or less the same type of reaction I suspect you and other “jump to conclusions” types tend to have. Have you ever been truely honest with yourself? Might ask yourself the same question with respect to how you are with those that love you. What? No one love’s you poor Sally2? Integrity starts within and it goes a long long way towards many things affecting all those around you over the course of your life. Do you know about some of the marvellous things Shelly1 has done before she got too wrapped up in mommying?

    • Sally2

      “When I go to Latin America, I treat women with dignity, jewlry AND expensive trips!”

      Mr.Simpleton, does your wife know about this?

    • Simpleton

      Ohh Dear
      Ohh My, SullenSoiledSally2, Shelly1 is just being very wryly funny about what the course of life has handed her. What makes you say Shelly1’s husband is “late” (implying he is dead the way you stated it)?

      BTW, I’m happy to say I don’t meet Shelly1’s definition of being a poor sexist Latin American man with the machismo thing going on. When I go to Latin America, I treat women with dignity, jewlry AND expensive trips!

    • Sally2

      “And for you who say I was interested in a foreign man.. of course I was… it wasn’t just me, There were many women in Copacabana trying to fish 1st world foreign travelers.. I was the quickest ..”

      Do you mean to say that you married a foreign man just for his money? What a horrible creature. Did your late husband know it?

    • Simpleton

      Your Roots
      in Maria da GraÀƒ§a (which is or at least once was basically half Dutch / half African heritaged and known to be frequented by or resided in by doctors and medical researchers) are a far cry from you being a favelada Shelly1, although it is just a short walk to go shopping in the one located between there and Triagem (which by the way is the one where I bought the jeans I’m wearing right now). Are you sure you were a favelada and captured your hubby there off the streets in Copa?

      I’ve been waffling back and forth on an opinion of Jon (one of our resident Canucks). His initial “inference” was all Brasileira’s like yourself who had married foreign and “escaped” by doing so were “whores” and at first read I too felt he was implying all Brasilian women were thus “puta”s because of his prevailing attitude that hooking up with some rich foreigner was some how something all of them want and actively try to do (which we know is absolutely not the case, but the Jon’s always seem to think it is). That Jon backtailed out of that by pointing out that he didn’t say “ALL” and other’s have come to his defense and say, yes, that’s right, he DIDN’T say ALL, almost got me to get over the first impression. That would have been the case had Jon not also subsquently tried to claim that it was you Shelly1 that first had called Brasileiras putas not he. Maybe it’s not a case of Jon’s reading comprehension skills, more of his writting comprehension skills – he just doesn’t see what he has the tendancy to clearly put between the lines even though a couple of qualifying words were left out. (Have pity on him though, I think may be he’s hurt since the ho’s that were in his neighborhood have left him there alone and either gone back to their country of origin or succeeded in crossing the border into the states.)

      Regarding up your’s feminism / machoism, try reading up on the uses and abuses of the Lei Maria da Penha since the beginning of last year. (Yes, since it’s local news coverage, you won’t see much / all of the truth.)

    • Shelly1

      What ????
      You sexist Latin American men… You tell me that there is no relation between poverty and machismo !! HAHAHA Fools.. I’m a woman with life experience in Latin America…

      They are poor and sexist because they don’t treat a woman with dignity: jewelry and expensive trips…

      My daughters deserve the best and I always teach them: When you grow up, you should go where the money flows, that is marrying a husband from a rich 1st world country and moving/swapping countries according to their current economical situation.. America is my third residence now..

      And for you who say I was interested in a foreign man.. of course I was… it wasn’t just me, There were many women in Copacabana trying to fish 1st world foreign travelers.. I was the quickest .. However, that is wrong to say I wouldn’t marry a Latin American guy because my British born husband has Bolivian parents but British wallet.. so that proves you’re wrong..

    • ……

      Sexist Women
      Yes, That’s right ! Our dear ignorant shelly here thinks that sexism is just a man thing …

      Someone’s character is not tied to what they have between their legs like Shelly wants people to perceive … There are bad men and bad women (like her) everywhere you go !

      There are many men who are machista in this world YES, but there are many women who are sexist and opportunist exactly like Shelly…

      And She said Latin America is full of machismo and Europe and North America not that bad – those are words from an opportunist woman who won’t marry a guy from Brazil, Paraguay or Ecuador.. She chooses nationality (and not love) to marry a guy.. just like she did when she married a british guy… Choosing a citizen from a 1st World Country then saying all Latin American men are bad…. Your British wedding, that is a wallet marriage Shelly… Who are you trying to fool ? We all know Britain and America is full of machismo too..

      You are a sexist woman against all men who are poor.. and that’s the bad side of many sexist women like you…

      Costinha

    • Maluf

      TO SHELLY HERE
      Dear Shelly,

      I didn’t defend anyone here last night.. You and this guy were clearly exchanging insults.. The point was, you were using the fact you have a vagina to tell him if he was calling you stupid, he was calling all women stupid !
      He clearly acknowledged many times he was calling just YOU stupid, but you were using the famous argument that women at your level use to get around with men do.. If you call me stupid, you call all women in the world stupid and that’s machismo…

      You are the other spectrum of women Shelly.. Women at your level use their vaginas as a ladder to get what they want..

      I watched South Park last night, the latest episode.. and for those who don’t know what this is, it is an American Cartoon.. They made fun of women in that episode saying if a man farts in bed on a woman, that is funny and cool but if a woman farts out of their vagina (that’s right they said fart out of their vagina ) that is disgusting and unacceptable.. Then a woman says to men: If an unborn baby boy farts inside a woman’s belly what is that? The men in the cartoon reply: it’s awesome then she carried on: but if the fart comes out of the woman’s belly through her vagina? they said: it’s disgusting.. The at the end of the episode, the men in town say they would allow women to fart out of their vagina…

      Shelly, isn’t that machismo on National Television in America ?

      You say that Latin America has the largest rate of machismo while America and Europe are not so bad… I can see that is a money orientated way of thinking there: Europe and North America are the two richest continents in the world so that the machismo there is not that bad..

      You are the type of woman who use the fact you are a woman and there are many laws in civilized countries about equal right to both men and women to abuse the law..

      You are the type of woman who would hit a guy and say if you hit me back you are a coward

      You are the type of woman who says to another guy here if you call me stupid you are calling all women stupid

      You are the type of woman who say Europe and North America machismo is not that bad and in Latin America is like Iran… ( very money oriented thought )

      You are the type of woman who would marry an European or North American guy for their money

      You are the type of woman who would say all the men are the same

      I work with many women at my job.. I respect all of them.. and my boss is a woman.. but she is in a different spectrum than you Shelly.. She doesnt use the fact she’s a woman and a boss to abuse her power to give make male workers suffer or hire many more women and few men.. She’s an incredible wise woman who really knows that equal rights is not just in paper.. but mentally too.. She hires people based on their competence and not their gender …

      The other brazilian woman who kidnapped a child in America and went to Brazil is the same level as you Shelly… She used the fact she’s got a vagina to have the child only for herself leaving the Dad behind without a fair court hearing about custody.. as you know Shelly, women don’t have automatic custody to their children because the equal rights thing applies to both side…

      But just want to make things clear here… As you accuse the whole population of latin america of machismo, I accuse you of feminism…

    • Captain Kirk

      Shelly………………………
      I totally respect you and everything… but there is a limit that I can agree with you as I am a man myself and calling all men machista based on personal experience involving one man who raped you, even though I feel sorry for this having happened to you, I feel that you are being out of order with the last few statements… You didn’t call your father a machista after the rape did you ? Of course not.. no one would… You just need to be strong, get lots of support from family and some counseling…

    • Laura

      Shelly
      We women still have a long way to go to equal rights with men… but this is not a fight in Brazil, it’s in the world.. however, don’t exaggerate that the Brazilian police is cruel towards women who have just been raped.. that’s calling Brazilians heartless beings… and I don’t know anything about you, but if you were sexually abused or something similar and you didn’t get the justice you wanted, that is because our police is incompetent and not cruel like you are tagging them.. but don’t worry, justice comes in different ways.. the man who did that abuse to you will pay, if it’s not in the hands of human police, it will be in the hands of God…

      We need to stand up for ourselves anywhere in the world…

    • Double-Dot

      Is that supposed to make me feel better?
      What a stupid thing to say, you just said… If you get your geography right, that makes mine wrong, that still makes us Americans stupid in Geography to them…

      However, I know Iran is not in Africa.. and you saying you read in an American newspaper that Iran is in Africa, then I believe we are stupid indeed…

      God bless America

    • Sally2

      Double-Dot
      I can guarantee Iran is in Africa because it was in the newspaper that I read … so don’t worry, I did get my geography right…

    • Double-Dot

      Sally2
      [quote]I didn’t mean to say Obama is going to Latin America to start talks with Iran as if Iran was in Latin America, He is going to Latin America and then after he will travel to Africa to meet the president of Iran in the Iranian capital for the first time in many years to start talks with Iran..[/quote]

      It is obvious you didn’t write those posts you said you didn’t… and you wouldn’t call foreigners living in America vultures because this is all work from people who want to create a discussion about Americans here… but Sally2, remember what I said ? Stop mentioning countries and places? Iran is not in Africa Sally…. Iran is in Central Eurasia …. Sometimes (and especially reading what you write here) I think we Americans are stupid in Geography..

      Ok, now no more places and countries for you.. dont mention as i dont want to feel stupid again…

      God bless America

    • Sally2

      Shelly
      I didn’t write the last comments here misspelling Iran and saying Latin American Counties speaking Counties, attacking foreigners living here in America… We need more foreign women like you here Shelly who stand up for our rights and dignity..

      As you said there is lots of machismo, including on this site..

      I didn’t mean to say Obama is going to Latin America to start talks with Iran as if Iran was in Latin America, He is going to Latin America and then after he will travel to Africa to meet the president of Iran in the Iranian capital for the first time in many years to start talks with Iran..

    • Sally2

      “Sally2 what’s wrong with you?”

      Sir, as I said before, I did not make the comment and some foreigner stole my ID, like they steal our jobs including the top job of our country.

      “God bless America “

      God save America from these foreigners who are exploiting the good people of our country.

      You sir, please continue doing a good job of protecting our country from these vultures.Thank you so much for guiding me.

    • Laura

      About Machismo
      I’m Brazilian living in Brazil and a woman.. Sorry for my english because it’s not very good.. i been learning it for my whole life..

      Anyway.. despite of agreeing with Shelly and Sally2 about Machismo in Brazil.. I do know that compare Brazil with Iran and put them in the same level like Shelly is doing here, it’s totally talk from someone who experienced some sort of machismo and rape in Brazil unfortunately.. but now it’s letting this horrible event to cloud her judgement here..

      Saying that the police give a hard time for us women here who have been raped, it’s a very emotional statement from someone who possibly didn’t get justice and now is making such absurd claim that both countries are the same due to her feeling of injustice that the police didn’t do well enough to catch him…

    • Sally2

      “Shelly was saying that Latin America has the largest rate of machismo in the world and in Iran, it’s part of the culture.. So both of you are right here… That is why our new president Obama, as I read in the news, is planning to go to Latin American in order to start talks with Iran about many issues including women and the killings of homosexuals….”

      Mr.Coastinha, I did not write these comments, sir and I really do not understand why some one should imitate me. I also do not understand why Mr.Obama should travel all the way to Latin speaking Counties in America and start talks with Eyeran about women and homosexuals.

      My question, sir: Will Mr.Obama, as a foreigner representing our country, be received well in Latin Counties including Eyeran ?

    • Double-Dot

      Sally2 what’s wrong with you?
      [quote]That is why our new president Obama, as I read in the news, is planning to go to Latin American in order to start talks with Iran about many issues including women and the killings of homosexuals…. [/quote]

      Obama would have a big big time by going to Latin America to start talks with Iran as Iran is not in Latin America Sally2.. Please, stop mentioning countries and places in your comments here because it just gives more boost to this Americans are stupid in Geography talk…

      God bless America

    • Shelly1

      Sally2
      [quote]Shelly was saying that Latin America has the largest rate of machismo in the world and in Iran, it’s part of the culture.. [/quote]

      Please, just read more about the issue, you will see that it is a problem not only in SA, but in Latin, some Asian, and Middle Eastern countries. I have studied feminism in Spanish literature and it is all documented. Sally2, . machismo in Brazil and Iran are the same. The level of intensity is different, but down to the grain, it is the same. Women in Brazil suffer a lot of violence and domestic violence. That is not to say that here in the States we don’t have this issue, not all women report to the police afraid of not being able to financially support themselves or for retaliation. In Brazil, the police gives the women making the complaint a hard time, if a woman accuses her husband of rape, she is not taken seriously.

      I believe everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, everyone.

      We run into a danger here, it is like saying that homicide such as beheading is worse than point blank execution. Both are homicide and that is what we should be focusing on.

    • Sally2

      Costinha
      Shelly was saying that Latin America has the largest rate of machismo in the world and in Iran, it’s part of the culture.. So both of you are right here… That is why our new president Obama, as I read in the news, is planning to go to Latin American in order to start talks with Iran about many issues including women and the killings of homosexuals….

    • …..

      Captain Skank
      Im not this Don Juan…

      Do you know how many smelly insects like you fake my ID and my style daily? MANY… There are just too many tiny insects to keep count…

      Shelly, you don’t know what machismo is.. go to Iran then you will see what machismo is… At least there, you will cover that ugly face up and your cheap make-up and spare us from your stupid comments here…

      Costinha

    • …..

      WOW
      [quote]Oh no, honey.. I dont want to have a saying in your life… Shelly sweetheart.. Im going to call it a day because I have other things to do…..[/quote]

      OHHH, what a romantic end.. You see, Jon and Shelly were just two little birds trying to nest here….

      And this Captain Skank was the smelly monkey jumping up in the tree with its claws out trying to get them.. Happy ending though

      Costinha

    • Jon

      Thanks Maluf, you’re right
      [quote]I am not going to wait for you or any other corrupt politician to decide how I should or not live my life.[/quote]

      Oh no, honey.. I dont want to have a saying in your life… and politicians in brazil are corrupt.. we all know that.. but don’t forget that behind so much trouble there is some light… but anyway thats up to you to agree or disagree..

      [quote] My kids deserve the best education they can get and Brazil is NOT a good place for them to study.
      [/quote]

      Totally agree with you on that…

      Shelly sweetheart.. Im going to call it a day because I have other things to do…..

    • Shelly1

      Maluf
      I did not begin insulting anyone here. I just gave my opinion and got attacked by childlike name calling. Can you please go back and check when it began? You all seem to be defending a guy who clearly has issues with women. I called him idiot, well he has proven the point. Idiot is nothing compared to what he has said here. Now, time for the boys to go on and sulk somewhere else. The point of the discussion got diluted by his insults. Darling, I am not going to sit and let it happen- me poupe!

    • Captain Kirk

      Shelly1
      Congratulations Shelly, that was simply an intellectual smack down of epic proportions.

      Expect this “Lord of the Flies” litter to come back flicking snot balls and their own feces in a last ditch effort to sully your fine work here. But remember, you own them all on this message board, and because of that, none of them will sleep well tonight. 😉

      Boa noite

    • Maluf

      Captain Kirk
      All it is visible here is that the pair of them are arguing with each other… I haven’t read any post that Jon calls “ALL” women stupid.. He is just calling her stupid and She is calling him stupid… so What?

      He is totally right about her using the fact she is a girl to call him sexiest to build up a better statement for herself… In law of many countries, we have, women and men, equal rights… if she’s calling stupid, he’s got the right to call him stupid too and vice-versa… and reading back these two arguing, this guy never mentions that All women are stupid or whatsoever.. that is her who is saying to get strength in her insult….

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      http://usnews.feedroom.com/?fr_story=dda2fb66669c2a77ec348e6a88d58ad0e7d40c1f&fr_chl=8399fb466ac2eafd70cabceffff449c0007158ad

      See the video above.

      The problem of Brazil is bad education? Hummm, let me see. And you have the audacity to criticize the U.S.? Seriously, time to change the jokes.

      [quote]I agree with that story… why should I disagree? That very stupid Brazilians.. I don’t believe it was just one person who did that.. it was many including men and women… but they share the same brain size than yours[/quote]

      You will not disagree because it is a public story written by a third party. From a news source, remember about the Amazon fiasco and dead-right lie about American trying to claim the Amazon? Well, this is quite worse in my opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAH 😀 😀 😀

      As I said, Brazil is tomorrow’s country. Well, dear Jon, I am not going to wait for you or any other corrupt politician to decide how I should or not live my life. My kids deserve the best education they can get and Brazil is NOT a good place for them to study.

      Cheerio.

    • Captain Kirk

      Wow. 😀

      Watching Shelly single handedly emasculate each and everyone of you smarmy toads is hysterical to watch, if not at the same time a tad uncomfortable. I’m actually embarrassed for most of you. You are all so far out of your league with this women.

      It’s no wonder all you little boys hate women so much. 😀

    • Jon

      JON, WHERE ARE YOU? You are dodging the above story!!! Your silence is deafening!
      I agree with that story… why should I disagree? That very stupid Brazilians.. I don’t believe it was just one person who did that.. it was many including men and women… but they share the same brain size than yours

    • Jon

      Obviously, you think that you are better and more intelligent than I am and than most women.
      No, I never said I am more intelligent than most women… that is what you’re saying to turn the table against me.. good trick heim?

      What I said, the problem of Brazil is bad education… because bad education leads to ignorant people like you Shelly1 being either woman or man…

      Of course, most women use that trick you are machista like you are doing now to build up a strong case against me, since I’ve been telling you, your brain is the size of an orange seed… it just happen that you are a girl, if you were a man I’d be saying the same because it’s not someone’s gender that defines the brain, it’s just your bringing up in the Favela da Rocinha…

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      [quote]How dumb is our country? Well read this…Education Secretary in Brazil Gets F in Geography and Pink Slip
      written by Shelly1, April 03, 2009

      In Brazil, the governor of the richest Brazilian state, SÀƒ£o Paulo, sacked the Secretary of Education following the printing of thousands of school books with maps of South America which ignored the existence of Ecuador, inverted geographically Uruguay and Paraguay and showed Bolivia sharing territory with Paraguay.

      An embarrassed governor and presidential hopeful JosÀƒ© Serra was forced to give Maria Helena GuimarÀƒ£es de Castro the sack, not only because of the public outrage at such errors but also given the millions of dollars a reprint with the correct maps of the books would cost.

      The book was intended for all sixth graders (public and private schools) and was to be distributed in Brazil’s richest state which contributes with a third of the country’s GDP and has a population of 42 million.

      In the books’ maps Ecuador on the Pacific, between Peru and Colombia did not figure and the name of landlocked Paraguay was given to Uruguay, which has hundreds of kilometers of beaches stretching from Argentina to Brazil.

      Paulo Renato de Souza, a former federal Education minister and currently a member of the Lower House will take over Castro job.

      In an attempt to downplay the “academic” scandal, Ms. Castro said that Souza would have “a better image ahead of the 2010 presidential election.”

      “He has a greater political influence,” said the disgraced Castro.

      Governor Serra from the opposition Social Democrat party is tipped as a favorite to win the 2010 presidential election in Brazil when the second term of President Luiz InÀƒ¡cio Lula da Silva and his Workers Party comes to an end.

      Mercopress

      Jon, we want your opinion!!!
      smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif[/quote]

      JON, WHERE ARE YOU? You are dodging the above story!!! Your silence is deafening! 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      [quote]Worse than Machismo darling, is your stupidity and ignorance… because once we attack the roots of the country which is bad education or lack of it, we will have better citizens than you…[/quote]

      Can I expect anything else from a machista? Obviously, you think that you are better and more intelligent than I am and than most women. You are delusional, typical from a man who was handled too much by their mothers. When Brazil attacks all of the above issues, than we can talk about on the same level. Until then, 8 MILLION children live on the streets, girls are raped and keep having children. You and I know quite well that Brazil is always going to be the land of promise, O Brasil-o pais do futuro. Well, darling. I am not going to sit down and wait, I have chosen to leave and it was a damn good choice.

      S[quote]weetheart, about me saying that American people are stupid… Well, honey… look around you.. they’re stupid because they want it to be… At least those people in Brazil like you werent luck enough to have a good education, but Americans are stupid due to Arrogance…[/quote]

      Again, you make generalization. Is every American is arrogant? Well, from my standpoint you are arrogant too. What else could I expect from someone with an inferiority complex? I have only encountered generosity, quite the opposite from what you are portraying here.

    • Sally2

      “It is for that reason that many Americans are leery about foreigners”

      Sir, you made some good points in your comments. I came to this site to learn about Geography and history as some guys were discussing about these subjects. But unfortunately, the debate has lost its focus completely.

      I do not agree that we are leery about foreigners or hostile to them . If we were, we would not have elected a foreigner, especially a gentleman from Africa, as our President. As my boyfriend likes to say, even the job of our President has been outsourced to foreigners. So I agree with all the commentators here that we Americans are really stupid.

    • Jon

      Shelly1
      Im not defending Brazil in any aspect that is wrong and visible: crime, violence, bad education, street children, politicians whatsoever… but I’m not going to write anywhere that Brazil is just that like you do..

      Worse than Machismo darling, is your stupidity and ignorance… because once we attack the roots of the country which is bad education or lack of it, we will have better citizens than you…

      Sweetheart, about me saying that American people are stupid… Well, honey… look around you.. they’re stupid because they want it to be… At least those people in Brazil like you werent luck enough to have a good education, but Americans are stupid due to Arrogance…

      Why is the world with this recession? Arrogance… The bankers (Americans) thought they knew everything but then they found out they knew nothing (Lula’s words) that I totally agree with… Why let American people loose their houses while pumping millions into a War ? That is stupid and because of Arrogance… they want to show they haven’t lost the war

    • Shelly1

      How dumb is our country? Well read this…Education Secretary in Brazil Gets F in Geography and Pink Slip
      [b][quote]In Brazil, the governor of the richest Brazilian state, SÀƒ£o Paulo, sacked the Secretary of Education following the printing of thousands of school books with maps of South America which ignored the existence of Ecuador, inverted geographically Uruguay and Paraguay and showed Bolivia sharing territory with Paraguay.

      An embarrassed governor and presidential hopeful JosÀƒ© Serra was forced to give Maria Helena GuimarÀƒ£es de Castro the sack, not only because of the public outrage at such errors but also given the millions of dollars a reprint with the correct maps of the books would cost.

      The book was intended for all sixth graders (public and private schools) and was to be distributed in Brazil’s richest state which contributes with a third of the country’s GDP and has a population of 42 million.

      In the books’ maps Ecuador on the Pacific, between Peru and Colombia did not figure and the name of landlocked Paraguay was given to Uruguay, which has hundreds of kilometers of beaches stretching from Argentina to Brazil.

      Paulo Renato de Souza, a former federal Education minister and currently a member of the Lower House will take over Castro job.

      In an attempt to downplay the “academic” scandal, Ms. Castro said that Souza would have “a better image ahead of the 2010 presidential election.”

      “He has a greater political influence,” said the disgraced Castro.

      Governor Serra from the opposition Social Democrat party is tipped as a favorite to win the 2010 presidential election in Brazil when the second term of President Luiz InÀƒ¡cio Lula da Silva and his Workers Party comes to an end.

      Mercopress[/quote][/b]

      Jon, we want your opinion!!!
      😀 😀

    • THE TRUE VOICE HERE

      April
      [quote] And for that reason, I would argue that most people are stupid and don’t have a right to call Americans stupid.[/quote]

      You are right on this! Totally right…

      We are all human.. and We are all stupid in many ways..

      However some people (mostly Americans) are stupid at a bigger extent than the other nations…. but of course, we are all stupid.. it is just the IQ level that differs..

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      No, I am not generalizing. There are plenty of research done on machismo in Latin America and many women suffer greatly. Why don’t you contact the professor on the pdf file? You like many other male chauvinistic Brazilian man, deny that, because the truth hurts. It hurts because it makes you uncomfortable and you would rather leave it alone. Face the issue, machismo is much more common in Latin countries, I am including Spain, Portugual, Italy on this too. However, women in Europe have a bit more rights than women in Brazil. Are you going to deny that too? Have you ever studied feminist literature, obviously you have not.

      You made several general statements about the American education system. Funny enough, most people around the world want to come to the U.S. do study at American Universities. I don’t see a huge influx of illegal immigrants or students trying to enter Brazil. You can’t even compare the level of education here with the Brazilian education system. At the elementary to the higher degree, American is still better than Brazil. The the U.S. has the most prestigious and well funded universities in the world. So who is dumb? You dear. Go back. There are many European and America man that are charming and lovely. I can’t think of one friend of mine in Brazil that I would like to marry. You can’t even come close. And that is no generalization.

      There are street children in Brazil, how many? Over 8 million children don’t have access to education, a safe home, and good health care. That’s 8 MILLION KIDS!!! My kids go to a Northern VA school system-THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. Their school has been voted number 1 in the whole country-an that’s at the elementary level. Not every school is the same, but I would rather prefer my child to go to a D.C. school than a public school in Brazil. You are angry because I am telling everyone here the realities of our country and you want to keep it quiet.

      I am not sure you live here, but if you do, please pack your trash and go back to motherland.

    • Jon

      That’s what I say
      You can take the girl (Shelly1) out of the favela, but you can never take the favela out of the girl… her brain will always remain in the hills of Rio de Janeiro…

    • Jon

      Shelly1 honey
      [quote]Homen Brasileiro, pior ainda! [/quote]

      Isn’t that another generalization saying Brazilian men are bad?

      [quote]O Brasil e um lixo e sempre sera![/quote]

      You saying in Portuguese that Brazil is trash and always will be …

      I do understand your feeling honey… You also said there are soo many street children in Brazil.. I agree.. because that is where your foreigner husband found you… so your anger against Brazil is totally understandable …

      We need to take these children off streets, give them good education… because many of these street children don’t survive beyond their 20s.. the lucky ones like Shelly who manages to marry a foreign visitor end up so stupid and ignorant that they can’t blend in with the rest of society … Simple as that

    • Shelly1

      April
      AMEN, April!

    • About America and stupid Americans
      The school system in America is poor but in many areas, it is great. Still, most people learn to read, write and do basic Mathematics. They get a smathering of history, social studies, and science. By the time they go to college, they are ready to study for a career.

      You can have a brilliantly smart lawyer, doctor or scientist; however, outside of this discipline, you might have someonewho knows nothing about the world, geography or other people like you. It does not mean he is stupid. It does not mean that Americans are stupid. All that might mean is that he was just not exposed to the varieties of life and cultures of this earth.

      Complicating that picture is the culture of naivete that the young enjoy while they are mating. No one wants to seem smarter than their peers. It does not mean that they are stupid. The Jay Lenno show often focuses on this culture for laughs.

      Adding to that culture of the young is the premeditated propoganda about other countries propogated by the press and the US government. This propoganda paints latin americans as dangerous and untrustworthy. Many are labeled as illegal which is a tag of bandito before you start. With Eurpoeans or Russians or Chinese, there are other labels that the propoganda machine foists on the young through hollywood’s finest government sponsored dramas. It is for that reason that many Americans are leery about foreigners.All they would need to confirm this painted picture is for one of you to try to behave dishonestly with them in their communications or their acts.

      Beyond that, most Americans are really stupid because they do not understand the tragedies and comedies, they do not read, and they allow themselves to be educated by the television. That said, I do suspect that many people on this earth are subjected to the same issues. Many poor people do not have the free time to read or to self-educate themselves or to understand the culture into which they were born. Many middle-class and rich are obsessed and focused on the wrong goals. Education is generally not that goal. And for that reason, I would argue that most people are stupid and don’t have a right to call Americans stupid.

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      [quote]In Shelly’s vision If I call her a retarded (which she is) that is machismo.. If she calls me a moron (which im not) that is nothing.. Well done darling… kisses[/quote]

      Lets’ see. If you call me retarded (which I am not) that is not machismo. Darling moron (which you are), machismo has nothing do to with calling someone retarded. You are missing the point. Wow, clearly you have reading comprehension issues.

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      [quote][b][quote][b]Getting stories on the internet and giving us characters to play…. how sweet…[/b][/quote]

      Should I pull out some stories and statistics from google about women financially marrying their husbands and murdering them in order to keep their money to give you some roles to play honey?

      In Shelly’s vision If I call her a retarded (which she is) that is machismo.. If she calls me a moron (which im not) that is nothing.. Well done darling… kisses[/b][/quote]

      Go ahead, now it has to be about what we are discussing here. Now, my point has been made. Kirk, you weren’t sure about the degree of intensity, but machismo is a REAL issue in Brazil and Latin America. Now you have the pdf file, contact the professor and ask her questions. It is true, Brazilian man, most of them, think they own their wives. Obviously, Jon fits the stereotype of a typical mid 40s early 50s Brazilian man. Those will never learn how to respect anyone, let alone a women.

      I feel sorry for the women in Brazil, they have a very hard time indeed. O Brasil e um lixo e sempre sera! Homen Brasileiro, pior ainda!

    • Jon

      Shelly
      [quote]Hahaha, nice try. [/quote]

      There is no try.. you just can’t read babe…

      [quote]Sad, haven’t you learned anything positive about the lovely American and European man? [/quote]

      Isn’t that another generalization about all American men and European men being lovely? Go to an American or European prison to see if you would call that lovely… yes honey, you contradict your arguments in every single possible way..

      Remember, the best thing to do is to read a lot british books to get something inside that hollow head

    • Shelly1

      I said brazilian whores, referring to THE brazilian girls WHO are whores..
      Hahaha, nice try. You can’t deny your chauvinistic tendencies anymore. Calling you a pig is a not fair on a very intelligent animal. Calling you a dog, would be fair either. Thus, malandro, go back to sell your trouxinha. You will never, ever be accepted as anything else but a machista. Sad, haven’t you learned anything positive about the lovely American and European man?

      Now, time to go and get your tape measure!

    • Jon

      Shelly1
      Getting stories on the internet and giving us characters to play…. how sweet…

      Should I pull out some stories and statistics from google about women financially marrying their husbands and murdering them in order to keep their money to give you some roles to play honey?

      In Shelly’s vision If I call her a retarded (which she is) that is machismo.. If she calls me a moron (which im not) that is nothing.. Well done darling… kisses

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      No you did not. You, chauvinistic pig, said Brazilian whores. You meant Brazilian women and you know quite well that you did.

      Nice try, anything else. Did you measure your winner today? Brazilian men are known to do that in the morning!

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      Has his nickers twisted again!!!!! 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      Jon, are you Josefas’ husband? If you aren’t, then there are striking similarities about you and the person mentioned above. Get help, you and Don Juan are a danger to women!

    • Jon

      Shelly1
      [quote]I never said puta is translated into portuguese. Dear, Moron,[/quote]

      [quote]dear translates into puta in Portuguese.[/quote]

      Sorry, you didn’t say puta is translated into Portuguese.. it was worse.. you said translate Portuguese into puta as you wrote above

      Then you tell me you had a brilliant education in the slum… tell your husband he can’t teach you english.. your brain didn’t have the basic education necessary in the slum to take English in…

    • Shelly1

      Brazilian man, the male chavinistic pigs!
      [quote]”I was not the one who came out with this answer. The women themselves did. At
      an AIDS awareness workshop in Rio de Janeiro, I heard a nurse explain to more than a
      dozen married women the importance of protected sex. The women told the nurse that
      they understood what she was telling them but that they could never ask their husbandsÀ¢€“À¢€“
      although they all knew they had unfaithful husbandsÀ¢€“À¢€“to use condoms. Why not, asked
      the nurse. The women answered with one word: machismo.
      So I decided to turn my story about AIDS into an investigation about machismo. I
      tackled it the same way a foreign correspondent would report war or a natural disaster. I
      traveled throughout Latin America looking for the stories that would show how
      machismo keeps women at risk: at risk of being HIV positive; at risk of dying from a
      self-induced abortion or from the violent blows of an abusive partner; at risk of waking
      up having to marry the man who raped her.
      I translated the scary statistics of four million clandestine abortions into the story
      of Josefa., a woman in her early forties, a grandmother of five, who has had ten
      abortionsÀ¢€“À¢€“regardless of the fact that she goes to church every Sunday and proudly
      displays a leather-bound Bible in her home. As I sat in her modest and sparkling kitchen,
      Josefa spoke non-stop about the most intimate of things: how her husband orders her to
      have sex and she does although she feels no pleasure; that she has serious health
      problems due to ten self-induced abortions; that what looks like a “happy home, is not.”
      Again, she blamed machismo for the misery in her life.
      It was not hard to find women who would talk. Sadly, it was very easy. All I had
      to do was ask. Women, once asked to participate (granted, in a safe place), will open up
      the most recondite places and will speak to their heart’s content about their condition,
      about how they wish things were different. They want to be educated about their rights,
      about their bodies. As women in power you might think you will lose votes, support, if
      you mention these inequalities out loud. You might want to use the argument that these
      are foreign feminist impositions, that women are fine with the state of their condition.
      I’ve talked to enough women to know I can shatter that argument. Machismo is not a
      question of cultural relativism. Machismo is a human right’s violation. Women are ready
      to hear you speak about abortion, sex, AIDS, divorce. You will not be shunned. “
      [/quote]

      http://www.iadb.org/sds/doc/PaternostroEnglish.pdf

    • Jon

      I said brazilian whores, referring to THE brazilian girls WHO are whores..
      like yourself Shelly1

    • Jon

      Once again, the favela girl Shelly
      [quote]because that’s what brazilian whores do… of course, even though you found new wealth, your brain still remains poor…[/quote]

      I can see you are such a desperate slum girl trying to be smart here…

      I said brazilian whores, referring to THE brazilian girls WHO are whores… I did not put the word ALL anywhere in that phrase… Maybe your husband can teach you more on reading …

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      Put the whole sentence, you misinterpret what I said on purpose or is it your lack of reading comprehension?

      This is what I said:
      [b][quote]You seem to have called Brazilian women puta, whore, dear translates into puta in Portuguese. Good, almighty, you brain cavity is hollow![/quote][/b]

      This is what you said:
      [quote][b]
      !!! because that’s what brazilian whores do… of course, even though you found new wealth, your brain still remains poor…[/b][/quote]

      Having a discussion with a Brazilian moron: $20.00
      Having to explain the above phrase to a Brazilian moron: $40.00
      Having to call a Brazilian moron mamma’s boy: priceless!

    • Jon

      That’s right Maluf (what a nickname )
      Shelly1:

      She is so angry with Brazil because she grew up in the favela until a foreigner visiting Rio saw her in the street and took her back to Britain… Just like the beautiful woman movie, but with a difference: Not quite sure if she’s beautiful cause foreigners in Rio sleep with anyone… but her mind is still stuck in the favela, despite of the nice clothes now..

      Hence the saying: You can take the girl out of the favela, but you can’t take the favela out of the girl…

    • Shelly1

      JON
      Jon o analfabeto!
      [quote]
      !!! because that’s what brazilian whores do… of course, even though you found new wealth, your brain still remains poor…[/quote]

      So you didn’t call brazilian women Puta? You are a joke, dear, have you measured your penis today?

      😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

    • Shelly1

      JON
      Jon,

      I never said puta is translated into portuguese. Dear, Moron, you said whore and whore, I said Puta. So I merely used what you said in English, dumb ass and translated for you. Your vocabulary is very poor. You are obsessed with puta because that is the only type of people you can go out with.

      Now, go and sell amendoin or your pacotinho de maconha na favela.

      Mamman’s boy!

    • Maluf

      Funny
      It’s sooo funny to read that a Brazilian citizen (shelly1) has no respect for the country where she was born and calls Brazilian women puta… This woman clearly is such a vulgar person who “gospe no prato no qual comeu”

      She’s the perfect example of Brazilian citizen who “troca a casaca” and then turn her back on the country by using vulgar words…

      Brazil is not just crime… clearly, this disgrace who is unfortunately still a Brazilian citizen ( hope she gives up the brazilian citizenship soon)

    • Shelly1

      Kirk
      Love the placard! It is a great way to laugh!

      And I meant to type GOD ALMIGHTY.

      So, you see, they now say that we are married 😀 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥

    • Jon

      Shelly1
      [quote]You seem to have called Brazilian women puta[/quote]

      No, you did honey.. get those glasses back on…

      [quote]dear translates into puta in Portuguese.[/quote]

      Puta is in portuguese no translation needed sweetheart… Remember what I told you? You living in England is a good chance to get your education back on track since you clearly missed that in the favela…

    • Shelly1

      Kirk
      They got their knickers twisted! Always happens with a Brazilian man. They are chauvinists and insecure about their manhood. When all else fails, they have to use personal attacks, and when that fails, they thrown a typical Brazilian-mama boy syndrome temper tantrum.

    • Don Juan

      Captain Idiot
      [quote]As for my geography, I only responded sarcastically to your question to me earlier dumbass[/quote]

      Oh yes, you responded that Rome is a Nation sarcastically.. We all know that, smart boy…

      [quote]Not only is Shelly a very female name (neutral would imply equally used between men and women and itˢ۪s NOT, anywhere),[/quote]

      Yes, let’s do some more twisting to this debate.. Neutral implies equally 50% -50% male and female.. yes right.. well done… twist it more to give strength to a discussion that you are clueless about cause your brain is incapable of sticking to my claim that shelly can be also a male name outside the US… Never said there is a place in the world where people use this name with a 50%-50% rate… that is the rat trying to be smart once again because you wouldnt find such a rate on any statistics anywhere! You gotta do better than that you RAT…

      [quote]That one is from Juan trying to still pretend Shell maybe a man, simply pathetic) [/quote]

      No, Im not pretending she’s a man because now I know she is a girl, she said she is a girl… she even called herself a puta as i read… You got the train late… you spent too much time chewing the cheese…

      Yes, Im a sexiest and you know Rome is not a Nation, you were just joking about it… Told you: write that on the wall a few thousand times to fully convince yourself and everyone else ….

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      [quote]Are you playing stupid here or it is your brain ?

      You were lucky by marrying a rich man in britain and escaped the slum in Brazil.. but that’s what whores do anyway… but you should work a little bit more on your brain to blend in with the English there….[/quote]
      [quote]hen she calls every Brazilian woman puta !!! SOOO Funny !!! [/quote]

      You seem to have called Brazilian women puta, whore, dear translates into puta in Portuguese. Good, almighty, you brain cavity is hollow!

    • Double-Dot

      Captain Kirk
      Now we know who Shelly’s husband is …..

    • Jon


      Shelly2:

      She said she’s Brazilian in Portuguese and English and her parents are Brazilian including her mother… then she calls every Brazilian woman puta !!! SOOO Funny !!!

      Perhaps she’s making a confession here she is a puta herself…. Oh God… leave that to the church honey…

    • Captain Kirk

      misogyny loves company
      Look at these comments from our resident gentlemen.

      [quote]Shelly1 the whore here[/quote]

      [quote]you blind bitch[/quote]

      [quote]ARROGANT TWAT !!!![/quote]

      [quote]Mr or Miss Shelly the bitch [/quote]
      (That one is from Juan trying to still pretend Shell maybe a man, simply pathetic)

      [quote]Shelly1 the bitch here[/quote]

      Looks like the meeting is now in session!
      [img]http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/07/08-15/he-man-woman-haters.jpg[/img]

      How does it feel to have so many admirers Shelly? You really have these little boys rattled. lol

    • Captain Kirk

      my my my
      [quote]That rat is on and on about me proving that Shelly can be also a male name because he can’t read yellow pages nor put the name shelly on google the poor stupid rat… The issue here is not about the name Shelly, the issue is that he is angry that I call Americans stupid… [/quote]

      I can hear the snot bubbles popping from here. lol

      Don Juan, youÀ¢€™re simply beyond bizarre. And I know IÀ¢€™m wasting my time, but, here it goes one more time: the issue was, and still is, that you told Shelly to À¢€œgo back to the KitchenÀ¢€Â which, is a sexist and chauvinist insult with a very well chronicled history of use. ThereÀ¢€™s no disputing that. YouÀ¢€™re a misogynist. Pathetically, you defended yourself by saying Shelly is a À¢€œgender neutralÀ¢€Â name and that you had NO IDEA WHATSOEVER that Shelly was a she. Bullshit.

      Not only is Shelly a very female name (neutral would imply equally used between men and women and itÀ¢€™s NOT, anywhere), but ShellyÀ¢€™s actual personal history on this forum is quite well established. Since you claim to know who the regular posters are, well, that would mean you knew from the start that Shelly was female. And you did. Because, looking back, the post immediately before you told her to À¢€œgo to the KitchenÀ¢€Â you called her “a bitchÀ¢€Â. Look for yourself. So, there is no denying that not only you knew she was female, but you knew who she was. Hence, your comment was designed and targeted specifically to attack HER, and it was chauvinist and sexist. Case closed. YouÀ¢€™ve done everything possible to wiggle out from owning up to your hatred. And thatÀ¢€™s simply cowardly.

      By the way, IÀ¢€™ve written three times on this particular PAGE that IÀ¢€™m not an American.

      [quote]1. BTW, I’m not a Canuck or an American. (scroll up to see)[/quote]
      [quote]2. IÀ¢€™m about as American as you are intelligent. (scroll up to see)[/quote]
      [quote]3. IÀ¢€™M NOT AMERICAN [/quote]

      Thatˢ۪s three times, trutinho. Once again proving your reading skills are beyond reproach. But, if you wish to continue your bigoted tirade against Americans, thatˢ۪s over 330 million people, thinking that somehow Iˢ۪ll be offended, be my guest. Youˢ۪re just being a fool. Well, actually, a bigger fool; if that is indeed possible.

      Also, I never called you COSTINHA. I called you out for defending him. There is a difference. But again, details escape you.

      But since you mention it. I wouldnˢ۪t put it past him (the cretin and mentally unstable individual that he is) to concoct another raving mad lunatic personality on this site to help fight his losing battles with/for him. And now Iˢ۪m thinking maybe he has indeed done just that.

      Given your blind hatred of the US, your stalker-like attitude with Shelly and your general misogynistic outbursts, coupled with a very familiar sounding schoolyard potty-mouth, well IÀ¢€™ll admit, IÀ¢€™m starting to think that, maybe yes, you are Costinha the village idiot/ future serial rapist. It sure would explain a lot.

      I may not be one hundred percent certain, but I am starting to think, more and more, that you, DON JUAN, are in fact our little resident future homicidal maniac, the new Mark Lepine of this century, Costinha.

      So, what two other languages do you speak? Spreken zie deutsch? I noticed you avoided that question the last time.

      As for my geography, I only responded sarcastically to your question to me earlier dumbass. Lol

      [quote]You know Italy right? It’s in Europe, they speak Italian over there and Rome is the capital ![/quote]

      How many fish did I get with THAT hook? Priceless. ItÀ¢€™s too bad none of you can remember further than your last post. Also, the sarcasm here seems to scream over everyoneÀ¢€™s head. I guess I’ll use more little À¢€œlaughy facesÀ¢€Â so you can get the humour. 😉

      And for a fourth time Costinha, Iˢ۪m mean DON JUAN, Iˢ۪m not American, so bash away at them. I donˢ۪t possess a blanketed hatred for any nation, gender or people. You on the other hand are filled with nothing but rage and hate, which should be an issue of concern for your family.

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      Mongol, I have to go for the day, but go and sell you amendoin na praia and stay away from the putas. They will never love you, dear!

      Get some therapy, seriously. You need it. All the brazilian man here get so angry, I guess you mamma handled you too much?

      There are three kinds of men in Brazil, those who are always going to be mama’s boy, those who think their dick is bigger than anyone else, and those who got abused by their mother (thus they hate women).

      Somehow, I feel that you may fit into the all of the above category.

      Peace and get help, and by the way, you comment below is pathetic. “I didn’t mean…I didn’t say…” No need to explain yourself here, you assumed that I was American and now that you saw that I wrote to you in Portuguese, then you changed our tune. We know what kind of man you are, a typical Brazilian mamma’s boy, man I am so glad I don’t have to deal with you guys!

      [quote]Sweetheart,

      You are so dumb and arrogant that it is disgusting… When I said you won British citizenship in a lottery, I didn’t mean a lottery system like the one in the US bitch.. and even in the US, there is no such a thing.. in no country there is such a thing lottery for citizenship… the lottery system in the US is for a GREEN CARD and not the CITIZENSHIP…

      What I meant was you won the lottery by escaping from poverty by getting married to a wealth british citizen…!!! because that’s what brazilian whores do… of course, even though you found new wealth, your brain still remains poor…[/quote]

      Oh nice try, you explain yourself waaaayyy to much. You know, you are almost believable, but not quite yet.

    • Jon

      Shelly1
      [quote] You poor thing, you have some real serious issue here. Every brazilian is puta[/quote]

      Isn’t that a generalization to call every brazilian puta? But you just said not to make generalizations here.. and if you’re a brazilian citizen, arent you a puta too with your own words?

      Shelly1, your brain needs a serious injection of High British Education to compensate the lack of it you had in the slum…. yes, take that opportunity lucky girl !

    • Shelly1

      JON
      I know quite well, moron, idiota, that the lottery system applies to green card. Moron, nice try calling me poor. You are sooooooooo dumb, is not even funny anymore. I truly feel sorry for you. You poor thing, you have some real serious issue here. Every brazilian is puta, perhaps you are used to such women? Is it the only way you can get loved?

      Poor thing you.

      [quote]Can you read at all ??? I didn’t write anything about pumping money into Iraq and the American houses…

      Are you playing stupid here or it is your brain ?

      [/quote]

      BURRO< MORON< IDIOTA, IMBECIL Neither have I??? You brain cavity is hollow, I hear an echo!

    • Jon

      Shelly1
      Can you read at all ??? I didn’t write anything about pumping money into Iraq and the American houses…

      Are you playing stupid here or it is your brain ?

      You were lucky by marrying a rich man in britain and escaped the slum in Brazil.. but that’s what whores do anyway… but you should work a little bit more on your brain to blend in with the English there….

    • Jon

      Nice try, Britain doesn’t have a lottery system, dear!
      Sweetheart,

      You are so dumb and arrogant that it is disgusting… When I said you won British citizenship in a lottery, I didn’t mean a lottery system like the one in the US bitch.. and even in the US, there is no such a thing.. in no country there is such a thing lottery for citizenship… the lottery system in the US is for a GREEN CARD and not the CITIZENSHIP…

      What I meant was you won the lottery by escaping from poverty by getting married to a wealth british citizen…!!! because that’s what brazilian whores do… of course, even though you found new wealth, your brain still remains poor…

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      [b]They even show their stupidity when it comes to running their own country: They pump millions of dollars into Iraq and Afghanistan in a stupid purposeless War that they haven’t managed to win in nearly 10 years while other AMERICANS are losing their houses because they can’t keep up paying their mortgages because of the recession… That is pretty stupid TOO…[/b]

      We can agree on something here. I agree that the war in Iraq was a travesty. However, I have had friends who lost their homes, nice, hard-working, simple people. It is very sad to see this, you should be feeling happy at someone elses’ disgrace. Be careful, you never know, but it can happen to anyone, including you.

    • Sally2

      “YES, IM TRYING TO GIVE YOU A LESSON ABOUT HISTORY BECAUSE I”M BRITSH”

      So cool to know you are British. Have you personally met Queen Victoria ?

      “I thought I was referring to Sally2 stupid comments.”

      I am not very educated like you, sir,but you don’t have to call me stupid.I am a fast learner. Do you call all women stupid?

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      Voce e burro, hein! Ja falei que nao sou americana, sou brasileira, e gracas a Deus, sai do Brazil. Lixo de pais. Enquanto a guerra do Iraq, os Estados Unidos e a Inglaterra continuan dancando o tango argentino.

      Realmente voce e o don juan sao mongois de primeira!

    • Don Juan

      Jon
      [quote]461 children were killed in Sao Paulo(when the video was done) by the police…

      Do you want me to get you the figures of how many children have died in Iraq and Afeghanistan ??? That figure would increase if I put the adults too, but that wouldn’t include the torture because that Your lovely country won’t release…

      The difference about Brazil and the USA, is the police is after those people who killed these children, but NO ONE is after you Americans who kill and continue killing THOUSANDS of people in Iraq and Afghanistan …. [/quote]

      Jon, that was spot on !!!! This American multiple national beast like to point out killings in other countries.. but this brainless being Shelly1 forgets her own country has been killing thousands of people since 2001, many innocent men, women and children have died and they don’t call that crime… they call that life..

      They even show their stupidity when it comes to running their own country: They pump millions of dollars into Iraq and Afghanistan in a stupid purposeless War that they haven’t managed to win in nearly 10 years while other AMERICANS are losing their houses because they can’t keep up paying their mortgages because of the recession… That is pretty stupid TOO…

    • Shelly1

      [quote]will tell your mommy with pleasure… but I won’t tell your mommy about schools in Brazil because that’s not what my claims are if you had paid attention you blind bitch, My claim is Americans are stupid, don’t understand anything about the world, and arrogantly they believe they do… anyone outside the US acknowledges that..

      You can be Brazilian, British, American, what else? Whatever other nationality you make up in your head and want to be, you are a pathetic being with 10 nationalities in your head….
      [/quote]

      Well, Don Juan, again you generalize. I have lived in 3 different nations and have met many Americans there. Never heard of such generalized statement. You are dumb, dear. You said I was an American, but you have not paid attention, I am not an American, got that part right? I have 3 nationalities. By birth I am from Brazil, mother/father is Brazilian. British by marriage and Dutch by grandparents. How hard is it for you to understand? Although I am not an American, I would like to become a citizen. I only have good things to say about my time here.

    • Shelly1

      Jon
      Nice try, Britain doesn’t have a lottery system, dear!

      Anyway, the point here is clear, I don’t care about generalizations, and I don’t think everyone who writes here are Brazilians. You’re delusional, I have never made such generalizations. I have been blogging here for more than a year and know quite well that all sorts of people come and go. Now, take your rage somewhere else, you will die of a heart attack soon.

      Call Americans all you want, the British are the Poodle of the U.S., the Brazilians are Malandros,want samba and carnival, see how easy it is to generalize. Anyway, if you think about it, both the U.K. and the U.S. are responsible for the war in IRAQ, that you cannot deny. Both nations are attached to the hipbone.

      The point is, Brazil has a lot more problems than the U.S., what is the illiteracy rate in Brazil? http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/6092/41/

      Peace to you!

    • Don Juan

      Shelly honey…
      [quote]WOW, great! Now, I can nail your coffin and throw the hammer. I am Brazilian, moron, and by the way. Tell me what the ministry of education is doing to improve the education of the masses, idiot? Tell me or tell my mother, a school teacher, she would like to have a word or two with you. [/quote]

      I will tell your mommy with pleasure… but I won’t tell your mommy about schools in Brazil because that’s not what my claims are if you had paid attention you blind bitch, My claim is Americans are stupid, don’t understand anything about the world, and arrogantly they believe they do… anyone outside the US acknowledges that..

      You can be Brazilian, British, American, what else? Whatever other nationality you make up in your head and want to be, you are a pathetic being with 10 nationalities in your head….

    • Shelly1

      Sally
      [b][b]May be because they are foreigners?[/b][/b]

      To answer your comments, no, I am not upset they they are foreigners. That would be really silly. I come from a family who has people from all over the world, thanks, we are very open minded. What I don’t like is generalizations about cultures, there are good people and bad people everywhere.

    • Shelly1

      The Truth
      You are a Brit, what a coincidence! Now, that we have the nationalities fair and square, stop being a jerk.

    • Sally2

      “Also, there is some Sally2, which again, is not me.”

      It is not you, dear. It is me, Sally. The guys here are very good in Geography and by reading their comments, I am learning a lot.They seem to be prim and proper gentlemen and know to speak our language well. One gentleman mentioned about Rome and Vatican and I know where they are . Hopefully one day, I will go to the Vatican to get the blessings of our pope

      I don’t know why you are upset with these nice gentlemen. May be because they are foreigners?

    • Shelly1

      [b]Americans are arrogant like this… Shelly1 here is proof…[/b]

      WOW, great! Now, I can nail your coffin and throw the hammer. I am Brazilian, moron, and by the way. Tell me what the ministry of education is doing to improve the education of the masses, idiot? Tell me or tell my mother, a school teacher, she would like to have a word or two with you.

      Clearly, you are just pathetic.

    • Jon

      Shelly1 the whore here
      [quote]461 children were killed in Sao Paulo(when the video was done) by the police…
      [/quote]

      Do you want me to get you the figures of how many children have died in Iraq and Afeghanistan ??? That figure would increase if I put the adults too, but that wouldn’t include the torture because that Your lovely country won’t release…

      The difference about Brazil and the USA, is the police is after those people who killed these children, but NO ONE is after you Americans who kill and continue killing THOUSANDS of people in Iraq and Afghanistan ….

      [quote]Shelly1: Are you trying to give me lessons in British history here? Sorry pal, but I am also a British citizen, so your comment is really useless.[/quote]
      [quote]The truth: YES, IM TRYING TO GIVE YOU A LESSON ABOUT HISTORY BECAUSE I”M BRITSH ARROGANT TWAT !!!! [/quote]

      What a dumbass.. She thinks that everyone saying Americans are stupid here are Brazilians.. WOW Congratulations Shelly1 ! Funny though, she’s telling a proper British citizen that she will teach him some British History.. Shelly1, do yourself a favor since you won this British citizenship in the lottery, give up your American citizenship and grow a brain…

    • Shelly1

      The truth
      The truth, I only use one name and that’s Shelly1. Sorry to burst your bubble prick!

    • Shelly1

      Don Juan
      Moron,

      I am not American, you made me laugh now. Truly, you are soooo dumb!

    • The truth

      Shelly1
      [quote]Are you trying to give me lessons in British history here? Sorry pal, but I am also a British citizen, so your comment is really useless. And before making any judgments, try to figure out if it is really me or not, obviously God has given you ears, eyes, and a brain, but you don’t seem to be using either one. [/quote]

      YES, IM TRYING TO GIVE YOU A LESSON ABOUT HISTORY BECAUSE I”M BRITSH ARROGANT TWAT !!!!

      And another thing, I thought I was referring to Sally2 stupid comments… Now I can see you use multiple IDs…. Americans are arrogant even in BRITAIN sweetheart… kisses…

    • Don Juan

      Shelly1
      [quote]No, dear idiots, you generalize because you are incapable of seeing one inch beyond your nose. No idiots, they have a very good geography and history program. I guess look at the literacy rate in Brazil, you can defend all you want, but the Brazilian illiteracy rate is appalling. Nice try Jack asses [/quote]

      Perhaps, Mr or Miss Shelly the bitch here thought that Americans are the only foreign nation who live in Brazil and use this site …. I’m not Brazilian you stupid being.. The Brazilian school system is far from good, that’s well visible… everybody knows it and even them themselves admit it…

      At least they are doing something about it… and Ive never met someone in Brazil nor anywhere else in the world who said Rome is a nation…

      However, you stupid Americans like to pretend in your own little world, that you know everything since you know nothing and NEVER admit that your schools are just as trash.. Kids in American schools get inside doors with fear not knowing if at the end of the day they will come out alife or with a bullet stuck in their heads…

      Then, ask Americans about that, and if you’re American the answer is: Yes, we need to do more to protect our school children from school children… If you are foreigner, the answer is: Don’t be idiot, our schools are great, Brazil has street children, Mexico, Costa Rica, etc as well..

      Americans are arrogant like this… Shelly1 here is proof…

      Just go abroad and ask people whats the most hated/arrogant/dumb nation in the world and you see what you get…

    • Shelly1

      The truth
      Are you trying to give me lessons in British history here? Sorry pal, but I am also a British citizen, so your comment is really useless. And before making any judgments, try to figure out if it is really me or not, obviously God has given you ears, eyes, and a brain, but you don’t seem to be using either one.

    • Shelly1

      Double-dot
      I hope you have read my message above, some child here is impersonating me and writing childish comments. Let me tell you that I have traveled many places in this world and I believe Americans are incredible generous people. I only have good things to say about my American friends. The comment about Canada was not written by me, Costinha probably did it.

      Anyway, it is very easy to figure out if it was me or not. Just keep your mind open

      God bless you

    • Shelly1

      Don Juan and the Truth
      …461 children were killed in Sao Paulo(when the video was done) by the police…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q8H5cPEg40&feature=related

    • Shelly1

      the reality in Brazil
      ” ….I like the jail life because I can work, eat, and study…but he was beaten constantly”.

      I rather be a dumb American and not know Geography, than a street child or a poor child dependent on the public school system in Brazil.

    • Shelly1

      Don Juan and the Truth
      No, dear idiots, you generalize because you are incapable of seeing one inch beyond your nose. No idiots, they have a very good geography and history program. I guess look at the literacy rate in Brazil, you can defend all you want, but the Brazilian illiteracy rate is appalling. Keep ranting, your mouth is moving, but I can’t make any sense of what you say.

      Nice try Jack asses

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi8t-1VjU4

    • Shelly1

      Captain Kirt
      Just a quick note to let you know that I did not ask for your e-mail. Apparently, some childish person here is impersonating me. BE VERY CAREFUL with anyone trying to perpetrate as me. It is about character assassination, which will always fail, because I am saying it here that it was not me. Also, there is some Sally2, which again, is not me. It probably is deranged Costinha or some of his folk-clan. How pathetic!!!

      Best,

      Shelly1

    • Double-Dot

      Generalizations here
      I’m American and I know everything about the world… I was educated in Europe and when I got back to America people used to asked me if Europe was an American state…

      Let’s not make generalizations here and tag all Americans as being stupid in Geography ok? Not all of us are like that, let’s say just 99.9% are stupid…

      God bless America

    • Simpleton

      Courtney’s
      or Cockney’s? I’m confident I could point it out on a map of the world but somehow the name of at least one nation I can think of that a first name basis of Shelly is gender neutral in has slipped my mind. Anyway, it’s an island, a very very big island and in the region of it they refer to as the outback all men, (especially young ones and possibly small boys) can be refered to as Shelly’s (or is that Sheila’s?). Hope that helps the discussion and doesn’t confuse anyone thinking the Vatican which is tacitly it’s own nation is the entire city of Rome.Those two shouldn’t be confused.

    • Double-Dot

      Don Juan
      [quote]Americans are stupid[/quote]

      Hey Don, please don’t generalize and stereotype all of us.

      God bless America.

    • Jon

      Rome a nation and the Canadian capital: Manitoba
      I propose a toast to their brains here…

    • The truth

      I meant
      Canada has a prime minister and not a president…and the Queen Elizabeth from Great Britain is the Queen of Canada too but with no powers…

      I hope that clarify things for u Sally2… Captain Kirk, you are a lost case…

    • asp

      oooh boy , we got a lot of confusion here….
      i mean like who is american and who isnt? who is brazilian and who isnt ? and who is a man and who isnt and who is a woman and who isnt ……

      and for the people who are ranking on america , pointing out how flawd and stupid it is, just out of curiosity, what country are you all from ?

      and same for the people who make the huge genreralisations about brazil…im just curious where you are from ? of coure i know where some of the regulars are from…

      i mean what is the use of cutting down a country if you dont own up to the country you are from? it loses a lot of credibility…some little unidentified cyber blurb in the internet

    • The truth

      The truth is…
      Americans on this thread such as Sally2 and Captain Kirk are just reinforcing the argument that Americans are stupid…

      They are being living proof to that on this Thread:- Rome being a nation, The capital of Canada Manitoba, Canada has a prime minister…

      Well, This Captain stupid Kirk saying Rome is a nation that is because his brain doesn’t reach that far.. but Sally2.. on come on.. Not even Canada ?! Canada borders the US Sally2 !!!!

      Well, They just can’t hide the fact they’re stupid… Unbelievable…

    • Don Juan

      Americans are stupid
      Yes, I know this Captain shit is just angry because I’ve been saying that Americans are sooo stupid.. then after arguing and arguing he says he’s not American anymore… Yes, right…

      That rat is on and on about me proving that Shelly can be also a male name because he can’t read yellow pages nor put the name shelly on google the poor stupid rat… The issue here is not about the name Shelly, the issue is that he is angry that I call Americans stupid… but hey, read bellow what Captain full of Shit wrote to me today:

      [quote]Tell me where, OH POSSESSOR of a world map (lol) in which nation would SHELLY be a name considered equally male and female? Rome? I don’t think so. [/quote]

      Mr American stupid, Rome is not a nation.. It is the capital of a Nation… What a loser, isn’t he ?

      Their stupidity is soooo obvious like that…

      Then he changes the route of his arguments to the popular trick people with no brain to argue use here: The English language – My English is so so better and you don’t understand it and I don’t understand your English … yes right.. We’ve seen this argument all b4 coming from pathetic beings like you who can’t deal with a discussion and ran out of excuses…

    • Double-Dot

      Sally2
      [quote]Last year my boyfriend was in the Canadian capital of Manitoba for their annual Bricklayers Conference and he didn’t like the city. He found it to be infested with commies.The Canadian President has to do something and get rid of them.[/quote]

      Sally2, I think you didn’t get the Geography right from your boyfriend. The capital of Canada is Ottawa. Manitoba is a state (they call it Province) and its capital is Winnipeg.They don’t have a President ,but a Prime Minister. There are no commies there either.

      I am so saddened that we Americans are being projected as clowns who don’t know anything about Geography and your comments are of no help. So, Sally dear, don’t make any such stupid statements anymore.

      God bless America

    • Double-Dot

      Don Juan
      Hey Don,

      I don’t want to butt into the discussions, because it is not my fight. But your statement about some names being of neutral gender is absolutely correct. Our good Captain Custer doesn’t seem to know it and even if he does, he ignores the fact just to piss you off. Just ask our white knight (who wants to save his damsel in distress) to go into the yellow pages of NYC or London and type the LAST name of “Shelly” and probably he will run into hundreds of MALES with this name.

      It shows that Captain Custer is not a Limey either. I hope I was of some help.

      God bless America.

    • Don Juan

      Captain Idiot
      I can see the RAT came out of the hole in the wall again to chew another piece of shit on the floor…

      [quote]how many times do I need to tell you that I’m not an American? One more time. I’M NOT AN AMERICAN. [/quote]

      That was the first time actually.. Re-read the shit you write, this time with glasses so you don’t get lost in the smell… AND I don’t know who you are or rephrasing it: What you are… and Not interested in knowing anyway…

      [quote]Also, I consider you an uneducated yob not only because your English is piss-poor and you obviously only understand about 30% of what I write[/quote]

      That makes two of us because I think the same about you…The only difference is that this time you got that phrase right.. the first phrase you used to criticize my English was incorrect moron not even a criticism you can do properly which made laugh today 🙂 I’ve never made a claim that my English is perfect, you did and criticized my English but the phrased you used was incorrect… so laughable.. what a loser…

      [quote]Worse, when you’re caught in a lie, you continue lying, dodging and you refuse to own up to your chauvinism. It’s no wonder you find so much credibility in Costinha,[/quote]

      Oh my God, You didn’t call me Costinha this time.. I can’t believe it… You acknowledge that we are two different people now !!!! You change the subject of your arguments as often as you chew your cheese…

      Yes, right you caught me in a lie with this powerful lie-detector of yours… What do you wanna do now with this crucial and incriminating piece of evidence ? Tell your mommy perhaps ?

      My suggestion to you is: After you get inside your hole and chew your cheese rat, write on the wall there 1000 times Don Juan is such a bad bad boy and he lies… Promise you: That will make you sleep better tonight…

    • Captain Kirk

      Wow, again DON JUAN, your comprehension and mental ideation is not only dismal, it’s downright frightening.

      You’re simply a shit tossing, mentally certifiable, village idiot. You’ve written 3 or 4 posts of meaningless anti American drivel and how many times do I need to tell you that I’m not an American? One more time. I’M NOT AN AMERICAN. I challenge your stupidity, and you attack a country I’ve visited maybe 5 times in my entire life? How strange is that? Not only is it simple bigotry to consider a nation being anything but heterogeneous, but when you try and get MY hackles up by attacking a nation I have no love for, or connection to, well that just makes you a grade “A” moron. And sorry, moron is a crude word, and I don’t particularly like using it, but it really does work well in your case.

      Also, I consider you an uneducated yob not only because your English is piss-poor and you obviously only understand about 30% of what I write (the rest just shoots WAY over your thick head) you’re a ignorant yob because you simply don’t make any sense when you write. It’s not just poor English, it’s gibberish. I bet you write Portuguese and German just as abhorrently, random disconnected thoughts of hatred. BTW, those are your two other languages, are they not? Just guessing. 🙂

      Worse, when you’re caught in a lie, you continue lying, dodging and you refuse to own up to your chauvinism. It’s no wonder you find so much credibility in Costinha, you’re a coward just like him. You’re both cut from the same cloth. Same mother maybe?

      One last time, please reference your little magical world map and tell me where on earth do people call men, “SHELLY”? And regularly. Don’t try and dodge and weave, you little chauvinistic dreg. We all knew what you meant when you wrote it, as do you, now you just being a pathetic ignoramus by denying it.


    • You mean:

      Our brains are as dense with mosquitos as anyones in America

    • aes

      Our brains are as dense as anyones

    • Jon

      Last year my boyfriend was in the Canadian capital of Manitoba for their annual Bricklayers Conference and he didn’t like the city. He found it to be infested with commies.
      Is your boyfriend American? Cause if he is, don’t take his comment serious… they say that about any country… if country X is not like America they are commies..

    • Sally2

      “Canadians are very welcoming, friendly and far more intelligent than their neibors Americans…”

      Last year my boyfriend was in the Canadian capital of Manitoba for their annual Bricklayers Conference and he didn’t like the city. He found it to be infested with commies.The Canadian President has to do something and get rid of them.

    • Jon

      Just a thought here
      [quote]
      written by bo, March 27, 2009
      Xenophobia and racism…well, there it is folks. No big surprise for those of us familiar with Brazil![/quote]

      This American person comes here and say that the Brazilian president is racist because he said this thing about blue-eyed people… If so, What is his ex-president George Bush then ?! I would say a murderer… Started a baseless War in Iraq and Afghanistan, killed and tortured lots of people including hundreads of innocent souls, based on the claim they had weapons of mass destruction.. bullshit… All they had was made in America weapons that the US had sold to Iraq years before…

      They are still torturing people as we write things here (many of those innocent)… then, this American guy come here and say that the Brazilian president is racist.. that is quite laughable…

      and I agree with this argument that Americans are stupid and their education is shit because even their military education shows that their soldiers are stupid: Torturing people in Iraq and still taking pictures incriminating themselves… That is the dumbest thing ive ever seen..

      So, I will reverse this stupid American guy’s statement here:

      written by bo, March 27, 2009

      Killings and torture…well, there it is folks. No big surprise for those of us familiar with the US !!!!!

    • Don Juan

      This is the deal
      American schools are like shooting clubs… you can learn a lot about shooting but nothing about Geography and Administration…

      American leaders go to Europe, Asia, etc to tell other nations what they should do to escape from the recession (That They have created).. It sounds very ironically, doesn’t it? A nation digs a hole and jumps in then tells other nations how to get out of this hole even though they are still inside it.. I hope worldwide leaders do the opposite of what America suggests….

    • Don Juan

      Our brains are quite big, ok ??? hollow inside, but big…
      just like an Easter egg …

    • Jon

      You two stop with this
      Don Juan stop calling Americans stupid… Our brains are quite big, ok ??? hollow inside, but big…

    • Don Juan

      I get it now
      My English is appalling cause it’s a given evidence that my comprehension of the English language is poor… ironically even the phrase you criticize my English you didn’t manage to get that right.. Another point proven: Americans schools are not what they used to be….

    • Don Juan

      By the Way….
      [quote]Your written English is appalling, so it’s a given that your comprehension of the English language is equally p.i.ss-poor. [/quote]

      My English (being my third language) is appalling, so it’s given that my comprehension of the English language is equally poor…

      Sorry, i didn’t quite catch that.. My English is appalling cause it’s given what ? Hmm.. don’t forget to breath in and out slowly to get more blood into your brain cause you just contradicted yourself on this..

    • Don Juan

      Captain Kirk
      [quote]Your written English is appalling, so it’s a given that your comprehension of the English language is equally p.i.ss-poor. I’ve not seen a more jumbled, disconnected, poorly strung together attempt at an argument for sometime. You should congratulate yourself for breaking new ground in creating internet gibberish. [/quote]

      Why should my English be great ? It’s not my first language.. it is yours but not mine… That is a typical American We rule the world thing… If a foreigner doesn’t speak English right and natively like they do, they are stupid… I’m soo sorry Captain Kirk but you see in the world there is more than ONE language… The English language is not alone in this world.. if you had a world map, you would be certainly aware of that !

      They even say Canadians and Australian don’t speak English right.. yes right… with a brain like that who are they to say such a thing? Have a look at your own backyard, you murder your NATIVE language in all the possible ways, grammatically, spelling, etc..

      Come on , write to me once again cause im enjoying this: Yes Mommy, He is sexiest because he is and that’s it… He is costinha in disguise because his eyes have the same color mommy..

      How can you argue with someone so damn stupid like that ?

      Here’s the Deal Captain Kirk… you’re an angry rat now because i keep on saying that Americans are so damn stupid and that hurts soo much your proudness… Being angry doesn’t make you smart here, but a world map does – Think about that 😉

      P.S. Watch the videos breathing in and out slowly to get a lot of blood circulation into your brain..

    • Captain Kirk

      Donn Juan
      Your written English is appalling, so it’s a given that your comprehension of the English language is equally p.i.ss-poor. I’ve not seen a more jumbled, disconnected, poorly strung together attempt at an argument for sometime. You should congratulate yourself for breaking new ground in creating internet gibberish.

      Here’s the deal DON JUAN. You told SHELLY to “get back into the Kitchen” and now your twisting every which way but loose, trying to say I misinterpreted your obviously chauvinistic statement. Absurd! If it wasn’t sexist what was it? What would you be trying to insinuate by telling a man to “go back to the kitchen”? That simply makes no sense at all. You took a tired old pejorative hateful colloquialism used by 18th century sailors and tossed it out hopping to score a quick, cheap, point and it backfired.

      It’s obvious, you little worm, that you think a women’s place is in the kitchen. It’s written for all to see. Don’t try and feign that you didn’t know what Shelly’s gender was, because anywhere in the world, Shelly is a name that connotes femininity, and immediately. Tell me where, OH POSSESSOR of a world map (lol) in which nation would SHELLY be a name considered equally male and female? Rome? I don’t think so.

      And yes, you defended Costinha. You find him [u]more credible[/u] because you consider his nick better known. That’s a defense, dipshit. i’m not saying you’re defending one specific idea of his, you’re defending HIM. I’m sure the distinction will be lost on you. Regardless, it was a pathetic attempt at a defense which only backfired on you. If credibility is simply brand recognition, you have NONE. You only showed up to spout your hatred for women.

      But sticking with your original sexist sentiment, you won’t even admit what you said, which makes you not only a coward, but that much LESS of a real “man”. Real “men” don’t back away from their words. They either defend them, or apologies for using them incorrectly. They don’t pretend they said something different. That’s cowardly. That’s a snake. The reason I am harping on the “man” thing here, is because hateful little misogynists like yourself have nothing to cling to other than the fact they are male. You’ve got nothing else in your pathetic little life to hold onto other than that little piece of flesh dangling between your legs, and it’s that with which you think gives you superiority over 51% of the population.

      I know that must really stick in the craw of some certain MACHO cultures here. hmmm, To question DON JUAN’S manliness must fry him with rage. I’d best not push him too much further, he’ll probably take out his frustrations and inadequacies with the fairer sex in real life just to compensate. That’s what I hate most about chauvinists, they’re simply angry little insecure boys.

      As you can see by DON JUAN’S newest tactic…

      [quote]In this other video above, the [u]woman on this competition against a boy[/u].. isn’t she [u]Captain Kirk’s daughter?[/u] [/quote]

      My daughter? Women competing against a BOY? You really are a woman hating troglodyte aren’t you.

      And BTW, I know for many on this message board, if you’re not Brazilian, by default you’re an American. You seem to follow suit, DON JUAN. And yet, you lecture me on cultural sensitivity and geography? Lol. Here’s one to grow on, DON JUAN, I’m about as American as you are intelligent. lol.

    • Don Juan

      I said before.. they do have world maps… but in those maps there are just two countries: the US and Iraq… Iraq with a small star beside it and at the end of the map the words: Almost American terr
      You’re right there… It was proven that Iraq had no weapon of mass destruction and the war that Americans started was petroleum motivated… at the end the truth came out… However, their country is getting so weak and fragile that they know that China has been spying on them and chinese ships have been intimidating American vessels in Asia to keep Americans away from Asian waters but they don’t and can’t do anything about it as China is growing at astonishing speeds and their economy is going deep down into a hole..

      That is way they stick to weaker countries like Cuba and Iraq.. Imposing restrictions to Cuba etc.. I don’t see them ever doing that to China even though they’re spying on them and doing whatever with them… simply because they can’t anymore..

      That simply proves my point: The Education in America is poor ! What their ancestors achieved in the past (the biggest economy in the world) The new generation is destroying because they are so dam stupid… that is way other countries like China are catching up so quickly

    • The truth

      No man…
      I said before.. they do have world maps… but in those maps there are just two countries: the US and Iraq… Iraq with a small star beside it and at the end of the map the words: Almost American territory, we’re getting there..

    • Don Juan

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pk-CyFArw&feature=related
      In this other video above, the woman on this competition against a boy.. isn’t she Captain Kirk’s daughter? I can see some resemblance but not physical resemblance, i mean mental one as she says she thought Europe was a country and asks if they speak French in Hungary…

      Most likely that all Americans are all like that anyway

    • Jon

      About that video
      Question: Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can’t locate the United States on a world map. Why do you think this is?

      The American girl: “I personally believe the U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, uh…people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and…I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., err, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children…

      Can’t you all see the girl is crying out for help from the government ??? MAKE WORLD MAPS FOR AMERICAN SCHOOLS FOR GOD’S SAKE… WE DON”T WANT MORE BULLETS WE WANT WORLD MAPS !

      She says at the end: so we will be able to build up future for our children… They have built something up indeed.. but that was the recession….

    • Don Juan

      Captain Kirk
      [quote]when you said “the best way is to stick to the people who are more reliable when it comes to identity: Augustus, Joao, Costinha, Ch.c, Double-Dot, etc…”

      And if Costinha is more reliable, because he’s better known on this site, who the f.u.ck are you then? Your defense of the cretin only undermines your own credibility. Talk about falling on your own sword. [/quote]

      You are one stupid piece of shit ! No point underling my words “more reliable” and twist the phrase to suit your own stupid brain… I said “more reliable when it comes to IDENTITY” and i didn’t say reliable when it comes to arguments, you moron ! I can see your education was that great you can’t even do a simple text analysis.. you are incapable of that… so don’t pick a few words of my text to twist …

      With regards to who i am… who the hell are you then ? I can give a simple answer to that straight away: You are a one paranoid stupid rat…

      About the name Shelly being a neutral name in other countries.. well, what can i say to that? Your education is very limited because you’re American so not matter what i say about the world you won’t comprehend, you believe that names follow the American male/female order everywhere else in the world and some people who are named differently, their parents are retarded because there is no such a thing as DIFFERENT CULTURE THAN AMERICA… of course, for you American the world is America and foreign culture is something in the sky… Anyway, Just watch the video bellow and you will see what I mean about American education:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&feature=related

    • aes

      Kirk et al.
      The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.
      Ernest Hemingway

    • Captain Kirk

      Don Juan, what can I say: WOW simply WOW.
      [quote]Do you want a world map so you can find out more about the world too ? You can borrow mine if you want … Kelly, Shelly, Leslie, Andrea, etc can all be neutral names in some countries… Example: Nicola is a female name in most english speaking countries but a male name in Italy..

      You know Italy right? It’s in Europe, they speak Italian over there and Rome is the capital ![/quote]

      Oh my lord. Italy is in Europe? You’re joking? LOL. There are Shellys everywhere in Rome? Is that your point?

      Shelly is about as gender neutral as George. Meaning, I bet there are one or two females named “George” around (retarded parents are everywhere, in Brazil there are also trannies everywhere, right Costinha?) but to argue the name SHELLY is gender neutral, like KELLY, well that proves you’re really not playing with a full deck and you’re desperately squirming to get out of the hole you’ve dug yourself into.

      Listen you trailer-bred confederate flag waving NASCAR cheering hillbilly (or Costinha in disguise, hehehe – same ilk of uneducated trash, different nations), if you can’t MAN UP to the fact that your comment to SHELLY to “go back to the kitchen” was said with sexist malice, then you’re a bigger coward and fool than your “straight-shooting” Costinha. You know, the one you [i]defended[/i] when you said “the best way is to stick to the people who are [u]more reliable [/u]when it comes to identity: Augustus, Joao, [u]Costinha,[/u] Ch.c, Double-Dot, etc…[/u]”

      And if Costinha is more reliable, because he’s better known on this site, who the f.u.ck are you then? Your [u]defense[/u] of the cretin only undermines your own credibility. Talk about falling on your own sword.

      Listen, I know many Americans and Brazilians aren’t the sharpest knives among the cultural cutlery, but for all you sexist hicks claiming that the comment “get back in the Kitchen, Shelly” 1., is not sexist, or that 2., SHELLY is a “gender neutral” name in some distant European nation, well then the stupidity meter has erupted and there’s mercury all over the place. It’s certainly not gray matter we’re trodden through.

      LOL. thanks for the chuckles…

    • asp

      yeah , how could paris hilton ever compare to……..
      pamela anderson (really nice people but horrible taste in men), alainus morrisette ( really nice people but sings and writes like she is on a constant state of tpm) cilene dion ( really great voice , but really, would you buy a record by her ? ) and who is that little cute rebel with a ppouty mouth ? avril or something ? she is a cuty but the eternal rebel with out a cause

      diana krall is really nice but , all that talent and she marries elvis costelo ? you tell me

      there is alway ingred jenson

    • Canadian

      Interesting..
      Did you know that there is more than one Paris Hilton in the US ? In fact, most of the population is composed of Paris Hiltons and Britney Spears beings…

      Not saying they’re bad people.. just stupid…

    • ..

      Triple Dot
      Review your original guess about “the fella here” and advise. 😉

    • The truth

      No point explaining to the fella here that Kelly can be a male name outside the US because for Americans outside the US is just space and the moon (according to what they learn )
      That is so wrong… The maps they have there is more than the US than the US itself.. Iraq and their petroleum is part of their US territory map too and thats how their maps are drawn.. the other countries are not countries but stars in space…

    • Jon

      Americans know nothing about the world
      No point explaining to the fella here that Kelly can be a male name outside the US because for Americans outside the US is just space and the moon (according to what they learn )

    • Simpleton

      Orgygamey
      Fold up your tenants. The full moon has yet to arrive but them out there have clearly had an affect on many of you that are not wearing your lead lined hats. Tin men don’t cry without rusting – em a Godda bla vida es Amo rica.

    • Don Juan

      Captain Kirk
      Do you want a world map so you can find out more about the world too ? You can borrow mine if you want … Kelly, Shelly, Leslie, Andrea, etc can all be neutral names in some countries… Example: Nicola is a female name in most english speaking countries but a male name in Italy..

      You know Italy right? It’s in Europe, they speak Italian over there and Rome is the capital !

    • Don Juan

      you tell SHELLY (I don’t know of anyone who would name their boy SHELLY)
      In some countries Shelly is a neutral name like Leslie, Kelly, etc you pathetic moron…

    • Don Juan

      Reply
      [quote]Don Juan you said “Costinha is outspoken and always speaks his mind”

      That’s not defending the creature? Wow, is there a full moon tonight?[/quote]

      X

      [quote] I dont want to get involved in this stupid discussion but saying someone is outspoken and they speak their mind is not defending anyone.. just describing someone’s personality..
      [/quote]

      Tic, tac, tic, tac: Captain Kirk is one big moron

    • Double-Dot


      I dont want to get involved in this stupid discussion but saying someone is outspoken and they speak their mind is not defending anyone.. just describing someone’s personality..

      God bless America

    • Captain Kirk

      Don Juan you said [u]”Costinha is outspoken and always speaks his mind”[/u]

      That’s not defending the creature? Wow, is there a full moon tonight?

    • Captain Kirk

      Wow, multiple people signing under my nick, this stinks of Costinha. Only a tiny mind like his could be so comfortable being such a cretin.

      I thought I remember Costinah somewhere, and his gang of might intellects. LOL.

      [img]http://myiq2xu.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/heman.jpg[/img]

      BTW, DON JUAN you’re really pathetic. You tell SHELLY (I don’t know of anyone who would name their boy SHELLY) to go back to the Kitchen. And now you claim you didn’t know her gender? You can slither any which way you like with that comment, but you’re still a sexist snake. I’m simply calling them like I see them. Do me a favour and fuck off with your idiocy. It’s tedious.

    • Captain Kirk

      Shelly1
      You’re welcome! Thanks for the compliment !!!

      and YES, I am single… What do you look like ? What’s your email ???

    • Shelly1

      Captain Kirk
      Thank you so much for protecting me against these cave men… You sound so strong and sexy. Are you single ?

    • Captain Kirk

      I agree about Canada
      Canada is one of the best places on Earth to live and safe… No shootings in schools like it happens in America and Canadians are more aware about the world and more respectful towards other countries and cultures….

    • Jon

      About Canada
      I love Canada too… I’ve been to many places in the world and Canada has always been my favorite… Canadians are very welcoming, friendly and far more intelligent than their neibors Americans… Americans don’t even know Canada is right above them on a world map…

    • Don Juan

      Doesn’t really matter in the end, with such 18th century thinking, it makes this game of WHACK O MOLES with big prehistoric heads all the easier. LOL.
      I told you Captain Kirk to go back to the kitchen too so that makes me a non woman hater because you’re a guy.. and When I told her to go back to the kitchen I didn’t take her gender into consideration because as far as I can tell she could be a transvestite … who knows? The point is i didnt ask her about her gender before i told her to go back… so how can you accuse me of having a prehistoric head about women? I have a beautiful one thank you very much… and she’s very intelligent maybe that’s because she’s not American..

    • aes

      Like Quebec, Western Canada would just as soon succeed from Eastern Canada. I have done business with Western Canada since 1980 and they are a very different people than Canadians from Toronto. I have a fondness for Canadians, love to watch the sarcasm and play in the broadcasts of their legislatures, as smart as the English legislative broadcasts. So much infinitely more witty and intellectual than the dull, boring American representatives, whose banter is as witty as ‘a bun being the lowest form of wheat’. That said, I dont care what you call Canada. It is what it is. I looked at property in Vancouver, the San Juan Islands and Victoria. Canada is one of the richest countries on Earth, it is greatly undervalued and nobody lives in Canada. I personally hate mega cities, it is a prison of drones, rationalizing the misery and meaninglessness of their lives. Vancouver is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. The only thing Canada lacks is sartorial style, unlike the Italians or the French, most of the haute couturier from Canada looks like it was purchased from J.C. Penny. No place is perfect.

    • Maluf

      What is that?
      Why has this discussion turned to schools and Shelly’s cooking ? The thread is about blue-eyed people..

      Captain Kirk,

      Shut up man, we all know Americans schools don’t have world maps just the bullets flying around…

      Don Juan,

      Who cares if you’re Costinha or not…

      Shelly,

      Why debate about if she should go back to the kitchen or not? That depends.. if she cooks well YES if she doesn’t, stay in bed warming it up for tonight..

    • Captain Kirk

      Wow, Don “Get back to the Kitchen Shelly” Juan, Tom “take your wife with you” Lloyds and Costinha “let me skull f.u.ck your head” Carioca, all responding at the same time, it’s either they’re all one and the same, or, all from the same misogynists club of women haters. Doesn’t really matter in the end, with such 18th century thinking, it makes this game of WHACK O MOLES with big prehistoric heads all the easier. LOL.

    • Don Juan

      Like the miraculously appearing Don Juan in defense of Costinha, as costa has had his ass handed to him for 3 days now? lol.
      In defense of Costinha? When and where?

      You are one lost soul here.. Never mentioned Costinha.. you being paranoid just because I said Americans don’t have world maps… but I just said that because of the poor American girl complaining on national television about the lack of such maps in American schools.. Perhaps she is Costinha right ? lol I’m all about facts you moron, unlike you who are about shit…

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]Well, the truth hurts.. we all know that… perhaps you should join her in the kitchen to help her out [/quote]

      LOL.

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]You always confusing people… you becoming paranoid about who’s who… there is no way to know who’s hiding, who’s not, etc… the best way is to stick to the people who are more reliable when it comes to identity: Augustus, Joao, Costinha, Ch.c, Double-Dot, etc… they are outspoken and don’t hide behind multiple IDs[/quote]

      Like the miraculously appearing Don Juan in defense of Costinha, as costa has had his ass handed to him for 3 days now? lol.

      Get back to the kitchen? Did you really write that? Simply WOW.

    • Don Juan

      Well, considering you told Shelly to “go back to the kitchen” I have no doubt two misogynists wingnuts would find comfort in the stupidity of one another.
      Well, the truth hurts.. we all know that… perhaps you should join her in the kitchen to help her out

    • Don Juan

      Sorry for confussing ASP with AES
      You always confusing people… you becoming paranoid about who’s who… there is no way to know who’s hiding, who’s not, etc… the best way is to stick to the people who are more reliable when it comes to identity: Augustus, Joao, Costinha, Ch.c, Double-Dot, etc… they are outspoken and don’t hide behind multiple IDs

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]Costinha is outspoken and always speaks his mind.[/quote] Well, considering you told Shelly to “go back to the kitchen” I have no doubt two misogynists wingnuts would find comfort in the stupidity of one another. lol.

    • Don Juan

      Captain Kirk
      Costinha is outspoken and always speaks his mind… He has no need and no reason to hide his identity.. No, I’m not him !!!

      I could say the same about though, You have Bo like tendencies.. but Im not going to make such an assumption because first of all there are more than 1 person using this site and second I don’t care who’s who … got it ???

    • Captain Kirk

      Don Juan has Costinha like tendencies. Things that make you go hmmmmmm?

    • Captain Kirk

      Sorry for confussing ASP with AES
      @AES
      That was a nice cut and paste aes, but if I may remind you, you called folks in Toronto, Canada “Socialists” and “communists”. Typical wingnut hyperbole.

      Using what you cut and paste on to the site as a definition, do you still agree with calling Torontians “socialists” and “commies”? You maybe able to link some policy proposals to, under your cut and paste definitions, “social democrats” but communists? Socialists? Please. Stop the fear mongering and inaccuracies. Torontonians are very progressive, and very liberal, which to an American with your political leanings, would make them “terrorists”, but they are not communists, and btw no one advocates communism, and the one or two who do, are not taken very seriously. Socialized medicine does not make a nation of socialists. It creates a nation of well cared for and healthy Canadians.

      @ASP
      [quote]aes, we need capatalism with a social concience
      written by asp, April 01, 2009
      what ever we had before just didnt work. all those hard core deregulation , lower the dollar , greed is good , hyper capatalistic trends just failed miserably [/quote]

      Bravo!

    • The truth

      Well, my kid’s school has not only one map, but several other maps in their classroom.
      Oh yes, your kid and other kids in America do have maps: Road maps of America, American state maps, American town maps etc in other words, in your maps Europe is the US, Asia is within the US, the US extends from south pole to north pole even the moon is within US borders… because world maps as we know you don’t have it..

      You may argue you do have world maps but then this world map has one country only an that’s the US.. so stupid..

      I’ve seen the videos and the other statistics too… and Im not going to argue with the girl complaining that American schools don’t have world maps just bullets…

    • Don Juan

      Shelly1
      Go back to the kitchen …

    • Don Juan

      Shelly1 the bitch here
      [quote]So, you take a video posted on UTube as truth. Well, my kid’s school has not only one map, but several other maps in their classroom… I bet that most kids in Brazil can’t do math, let alone read. Illiteracy in Brazil is a disgrace!
      [/quote]

      This site is about statistics and not your bets. Go with your bets to a Casino bitch.. If your kid managed to find maps at school that is because these maps are American states maps.. because the issue here is that Americans don’t have access to world maps that is why they are so damn stupid…

      And no, we are not taking one video on YouTube as truth… We are taking the opinion of one American school girl who said Americans don’t have access to world maps and a REAL survey that says 5% of Americans can’t even locate the US on a world map… and the US is massive country hard to miss on a world map but because many have never put their hands on a world map, when they do they can’t locate their own country ! We are also taking into account another video from a reporter who goes asking people in America about the world… so no, we are not taking one video.. we are taking a series of videos, the opinion of an American school girl and the survey carried out that 5% of Americans can’t locate the US on a world map…

      So get your facts straight and your figures right… I bet.. leave that for your casino bitch

    • asp

      aes, we need capatalism with a social concience
      what ever we had before just didnt work. all those hard core deregulation , lower the dollar , greed is good , hyper capatalistic trends just failed miserably

      bring in the new ideas. i like them . i like what obama is doing , making sure there are abortion rights fortified, getting more funding to education, things that will help the poorer people in society . the only thing wrong with welfare is when it is abused. it has to be done correctly

      all these welfare , education cuts , and ,infrastructure neglection under hyper capatalist republicans have messed up the country

      obama hates to make these government interventions, and, i dont forget for one minute that he inherited it from a seriously flawed administration , that has tanked this country lower than it has been in a long time. if he doesnt do something about it, things could really be more disastourous its so funny the people who caused this failure are now screaming the loudest about socialism .

      its amazing the people who think the usa is going socialist. they havent lived in a country like venezuela , where a democraticly elected and supported president is pushing his sociialist agenda, closing down tv and radio stations , putting the oposition in jail,out right nationalising anything he wants to when he deems nescasary, supporting revolutainary marxist scum bags , taking over ports and river entries, and generaly spouting his dogma and making sudden mandates that all the people have to follow

      there is nothing close to that in the usa…its ridiculas to imply it….

    • asp

      yo kirk , im not aes……
      get it straight !!!

    • aes

      What are you on about? You have the ideation and linear thought process of a maze, and the attention span of a ferret. I’m not defending “socialism”, I’m attacking your retarded idea of what socialism
      Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split between reformists and the revolutionaries on how a socialist economy should be established. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Socialists inspired by the Soviet model of economic development have advocated the creation of centrally planned economies directed by a state that owns all the means of production. Others, including Yugoslavian, Hungarian, Polish and Chinese Communists in the 1970s and 1980s, instituted various forms of market socialism, combining co-operative and state ownership models with the free market exchange and free price system (but not prices for the means of production).[7] Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies and tax-funded welfare programs and the regulation of markets. Libertarian socialism (including social anarchism and libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers’ councils and workplace democracy.

    • Captain Kirk

      asp
      [quote]It has never worked. It will not work. You are deluded. This is a prescription for failure, for hyper inflation and ultimately, historically or war. This is what is history. You are both politically and economically naive. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your linear undrstanding of language.[/quote]

      What are you on about? You have the ideation and linear thought process of a maze, and the attention span of a ferret. I’m not defending “socialism”, I’m attacking your retarded idea of what socialism [u]is[/u]. I’m also [u]not[/u] defending your administration’s actions, just the fact that these actions do not automatically signify the US will be communist China in a week. get it?

    • Shelly1

      Toronto businessman
      So, you take a video posted on UTube as truth. Well, my kid’s school has not only one map, but several other maps in their classroom. I guess it all depends where you go to school, I live in Northern VA, so the schools here are the best in the country. Not sure about other states. Now, go outside the main cities in Brazil and ask the same questions. I bet that most kids in Brazil can’t do math, let alone read. Illiteracy in Brazil is a disgrace!

    • asp

      well then, lets all just agree america has sunk down to the third world…
      who the fuck is going to disagree with those youtubes ?

      what with the iraq war and this absolutly horrible financial crises definitly brought on by american hyper capitalists , any thinking american should be doubled over backwards in shame…unless , of course they arnt doubled over front ways from getting our collective rectums stretched by these sons of bitches who did this…and people are trying to blame obama and his administration , calling him socialist….what a fucking bad joke

      i choke daily in disgust at how this shit went down , and how americans just sat back and let it happen….the legacy we have left our children…its going to take decades to ragain ground severly lost….i wish i was wrong about this..where is the fucking real anger…the anger to string these mother fuckers up by the balls and let them rot…i love america and i am disgusted and ashamed

      but , i guess a steady diet of reality shows, fox tv,jerry springer, gossip shows, i pods , video games , junk food , movies , paris hilton , etc is working to keep the public in a constant state of sleep walking

      this is one great time for anti americans…lots of leaders around the world have the best built in excuse for any failures in their countries…its all the fault of hyper capitalist america

    • Toronto businessman

      [quote]American children do have access to world maps at schools but they don’t have time for it because they are too busy trying to avoid the bullets….[/quote]

      No, no, no my friend… you’re totally wrong there..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OCHaPQ4rA&feature=related

      According to the video above that I just saw, this American school girl does say that American school children don’t have access to maps… and everyone of you reading this SHOULD NOT and I repeat SHOULD NOT listen to a word of Americans say here to disagree with this statement.. because the Americans who come to this forum are old ones and they have no idea what happens in American schools.. The little girl on the video does…

      The little school girl on the video clearly stated that American children don’t have, in fact, maps and she also gave a stupid answer to the question raised shown on the video just to raise awareness of the lack of maps in Americans schools..

      So replying to what you said, According to a child they don’t have access to maps in American schools and they also have the bullets too like you said… but that’s not just in schools.. universities get those too..

    • Canadian

      And according to the American girl showed on the video bellow with her own words, Americans don’t have access to world maps…
      American children do have access to world maps at schools but they don’t have time for it because they are too busy trying to avoid the bullets….

    • Jon

      Stupid Americans
      [quote]In Brazil, the governor of the richest Brazilian state, SÀƒ£o Paulo, sacked the Secretary of Education following the printing of thousands of school books with maps of South America [/quote]

      A mistake by a stupid person ok… but now go to the streets of New York like the video bellow and ask the MANY Americans about countries and capitals and you will see the fascinating answers you get 😉 😉 😉

      Reporter: Name a country which begins with U..
      American: Utah..
      Another American: Yugoslavia
      Reporter: What’s the religion of Israel?
      Another incredibly stupid American: Israeli

      They always say Americans came from Europe originally.. I have another theory to this: They came from the moon !

      More about Americans and their IQ bellow:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OCHaPQ4rA&feature=related

      And according to the American girl showed on the video bellow with her own words, Americans don’t have access to world maps…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&feature=related

    • Simpleton

      Skip apostrophies
      Seems of late I do think too much on possesives vs plurals. I see I tossed in a couple ‘ ‘ where none were supposed to be – maybe they’re just high-dots from the darv cet.

      Atrophied nerves don’t recover. Recommendation is to be strong and excercise your spine folks. (And don’t be a Lula, they have no spine:o)

    • Simpleton

      Darn Those Blue-eyed Angolian Devil’s
      They must have had their hand in the computer systems that made publishing such school book’s possible in our richest ungoverned state. Was there a post sacking interview or is that being saved for an up coming Novella episode? I heard it went pretty hot and heavy with lot’s of moaning and sheets being torn off.

    • aes

      In Brazil, the governor of the richest Brazilian state, SÀƒ£o Paulo, sacked the Secretary of Education following the printing of thousands of school books with maps of South America which ignored the existence of Ecuador, inverted geographically Uruguay and Paraguay and showed Bolivia sharing territory with Paraguay.

    • Jon

      Americans are stupid from nature…
      Host: Budapest is the capital of what European country?
      American: I thought Europe was a country.. Budapest, Ive never heard of that.. I know they speak French there, don’t they?

      More of that bellow:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pk-CyFArw&feature=related

      This shows how they are stupid generally:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OCHaPQ4rA&feature=related

    • Juan

      Americans can’t even locate the US on a world map
      [quote]Just ignorant people like you who live in another galaxy is not aware of what happens in the world… [/quote]

      Well, they say Americans just understand about the USA because their geography is so poor and their newspapers just reach as far as Puerto Rico, that is why they are clueless about the European Union and the world itself…

      A recent research showed that 5% of Americans can’t even locate the US on a world map..

      This is a proof of their incredible stupidity when it comes to geography and anything that happens in the world:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&feature=related

      Watch that link above and you will in the right beginning that 5% of Americans can’t locate the US on a world map, and you will also see a demonstration of good geography education in American schools 😉 😉 😉

      Probably if they stopped all those shootings in schools and looked more in the map they would be able to locate the US

    • Bo idiot

      Bo is so ignorant
      [quote]I LOVE it when people rank the European Union as a country so that some type of entity can even come close to the U.S. in something![/quote]

      “Go and live in one of the countries in the European Union for a few months and you will see that The European Union is more than half way into becoming a whole country…No more borders, free movement of people and goods, one currency, a Parliament, a flag, a president, also discussions for the European Union to have a seat in the UN Security Council as the European Union as if it was a country, apart from when the European parliament comes up with new laws all other countries have to scrap their own laws to give way to these European Unions laws… Many people in the European Union see this as the union turning into a country and many wonder how far it is gonna get.. So no surprising that some see the European Union as a country… because the Union acts in all the ways as country…

      Just ignorant people like you who live in another galaxy is not aware of what happens in the world…

    • aes

      I refer you to Nouriel Rabii [url]http://www.rgemonitor.com/[/url]

      The Graph demonstrates that the Fed, Obama, Geighter et al are goig to print so much money that the interest and the inflation is going to imact the next two generations of Americans.

      I have two dogs in this fight. You are busy parcing semantics that you no longer are interested in either history or mathematic certainty. The proposed budget of the government is beyond anything in the total combined budgts from Washington to Bush II.

      It has never worked. It will not work. You are deluded. This is a prescription for failure, for hyper inflation and ultimately, historically or war. This is what is history. You are both politically and economically naive. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your linear undrstanding of language. You are not intereste in meaning, but in having someone say what you want them to say the way that you want them to say it. The only news I watch is Bovespa, CSpan, New York Times, Financial Times, RGEmonitor, and Bloomberg. One of my sons is in a nuclear submarine with Westpac off the coast of China wating for North Korea’s launch, the other is in helos. You have no ‘skin in the game’.

      “One Swallow doesn’t make a summer” nor does one one bailout portend a fall to socialism, but one crystal of salt percipitating out of a supersaturated solution of a projected 10 Trillion debt is a portend for the ensuing appocolyptical, global economic Ice Age.

    • aes

      [img]http://www.noga.blog.br/stlouisfedchart.jpg[/img]

    • aes

      [url]http://www.noga.blog.br/stlouisfedchart.jpg[/url]

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]What would you call the appropriation of other people’s money, social engineering? It is theft. [/quote]

      Taxes? Maybe? Where is this money being EXPROPRIATED? Again, American right wing empty rhetoric. Your nation has literally collapsed, and you’ve got the pitch forks out, you’re lighting the torches, and you’re being told the problem is socialists and communities again, becasue heaven knows it couldn’t have been LAISSEZ FAIRE CAPITALISM. Lol. Well, Canada, Toronto, is about as socialist as America. Socialism is total state control over EVERYTHING. There’s no middle ground. That’s far from the case in Canada and the US, and only when corporations like Pepsi, Coke, McDonalds and Ma and Pas Luncheon and Bait Tackle store are under governmental control, please spare us with the right wing talking points and fear mongering canards.

      [quote]No guns in Canada. No rape, theft, drugs, prostitution, organized crime, extortion, counterfiting. Theft by the State. O’Bama’s budget is theft by the State of the next generation and the generation after that What the world needs is a good ole war. I hope they shoot down the Korean launch, just to get a fire going. Take our minds of this petty theft of Palosi and the neo-leftist fascists. You dont have to be a conservative to be fascistic in method. Of the wealth of the U.S. for the next 25 years.[/quote]

      What a discombobulated angry nonsensical rant. Stop watching Glenn Beck, it’s not healthy for the elderly. BTW, I’m not a Canuck or an American. I’m not defending Toronto, I’m challenging yet an another American’s abuse of the term “socialism”, which happens almost daily. And about Obama’s plan, “One Swallow doesn’t make a summer” nor does one one bailout portend a fall to socialism.

    • aes

      Get rid of Hitler before its too Lula, you already have Mousalini incarnate as Chavez. Life is theater, a comedy but it aint funny Joe. Ahso!
      Yes by all means alienate the WASPs. To be a WASP is to be a member of the financially elite in the U.S., the advantaged. The ones whose fathers and grandfathers have librarys named after them. The Rockerfellers, the Cabots, the Lodges. In the U.S. it is the WASPs that have their daughters come out at the annual debutant ball at the Country Club. Whites only, Catholics and Jews need not apply. Though with a demi black in the White House now, its all becoming a bit fuzzy, except of course the actual banking part and the ‘old money’ part. For it is the ‘old money’ not the vulgar ‘neauveau riche’ that are the owners of America. Everyone in the U.S. have always wanted to be blonde haired and blue eyed. Thats why there are so many dyed blonds; and why advertisers advised that ‘blondes have more fun’ and ‘you have only one life, why not live it like a blonde.’ Lula is a cliche, he is a man out of step with his time. His was a mere malapropism, for what he deemed wit. He certainly didnt utter the words to be considered ignorant, but witty. I wonder what Country Club Lula plays golf at and what his handicap is, unless of course its his rhetoric. Quelle domage. We deserve the leaders we elect to office. They represent the people, more or less, are a reflection of the emotional and intellectual level of the nation. Blame it on the 3 billion Chinese, didnt Brazil just borrow billions of dollars for a fixed price on oil from Petrobras? Beware the Chinese bearing gifts. Yes massah, no massah, ahso massah! The writing is on the wall and its in Mandarin. Though even Asians dye their hair blonde and wear blue contact lenses. The power of advertising has long been known by the WASP elite, that is why Jesus has blonde hair and blue eyes.

    • Mark

      Amazing!
      70 years ago someone named Hitler said it was the Jews who owned the banks and ruined the economies of whole countries.
      Lula is in good company … racist hate-filled bigot liars.
      How did such a wonderful people, the Brasilians, elect such a jackass?
      Then again … how did the German’s ever elect Hitler?
      Get rid of Lula before it is too late.
      Please.

    • João da Silva

      Jon
      [quote]Did you know William Shatner aka Captain Kirk is a Canuck[/quote]

      That is an old news and the latest one is that erstwhile KGB is after poor Bill.

      BUT…BUT…BUT…, how many times have I asked you not to interfere into the internal affairs of Brasil? Not that you are going to listen to me 😀 😉

      BTW, you are very sharp and observant like I am .Not a single blogger caught on to it.:D 😉 🙁

    • aes

      The following is a quote from Western Canadians, Eh!

      ‘The trouble with Canada is the Western half has all the money and the Eastern half has all the communist/socialists in Torronto, telling everyone how they are going to spend it.’

      What would you call the appropriation of other people’s money, social engineering? It is theft. All wealth is owned by the State/the individual is subserviant to the State, Marx, Lenin? France? Pick your history the name is irrelevant it is the theft that is the consequence. Read Roubini. No guns in Canada. No rape, theft, drugs, prostitution, organized crime, extortion, counterfiting. Theft by the State. O’Bama’s budget is theft by the State of the next generation and the generation after that What the world needs is a good ole war. I hope they shoot down the Korean launch, just to get a fire going. Take our minds of this petty theft of Palosi and the neo-leftist fascists. You dont have to be a conservative to be fascistic in method. Of the wealth of the U.S. for the next 25 years.

      Yeh I thought it queer the EU was listed as a country as well. Especially since Switzerland is doing so much better than Spain. It seems more like calling the U.N. a country. The world economy has another 20% to fall before a bottom is established. There will be no growth until the end of 2010.

      It is not my opinion. Western Canada is one of the most beautiful places on Earth, Next to New Zealand, or Itaipava.

    • jon

      Did you know William Shatner aka Captain Kirk is a Canuck 🙂 😀

    • João da Silva

      [quote]Beware where you trek. It’s a dangerous path. [/quote]

      Well said, Captain.It might produce undesirable boomerang effect, especially when a politico makes irresponsible statements like the one done by our “Father of the Poor”.

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]I LOVE it when people rank the European Union as a country so that some type of entity can even come close to the U.S. in something![/quote]

      It’s just for reference. There is no other political/economic entity equal to the EU, it even has it’s own government, so it’s unique. Given it shares a budget, why not present it’s aggregated GDP? It’s not a pissing contest, or some nefarious plot to boost regional self esteem. The WORLD GDP is also listed there. Again, just for reference, although mentioning a global GDP will probably bring out the tinfoil hat wearing brigade claiming this as further proof to the NWO. Sometimes people read too much into simple facts.

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]The Brazilian leader has often blamed the United States for causing a global crisis by practicing “casino capitalism.” [/quote]

      I’d take this over blaming “whitey”, still, I put no credence in what Lula says. He’s a populist and famed for lying.

    • Captain Kirk

      [quote]For indeed it is the elite WASPS that own the banks: what is today the United States.[/quote]

      Highlighting specific races for specific problems? Beware where you trek. It’s a dangerous path.

      [quote]Switzerland is just behind Indonesia’s GDP, well done Indonesia! Hell even Norway ‘the economic giant’ is only a few dollars away from Switzerland.[/quote]

      And India is ahead of Australia. I’d still prefer living in Sydney to Bombay if forced to decide, actually, I’d take ZÀƒ¼rich over Jakarta, too. Bali? Hmmm, tough one. Too many old foreign perves, it’ s like Rio, only cheaper. Whatever, why do some feel the only indicator for a nation’s greatness and quality is it’s bottom line? Pretty shallow people. New Zealand is not even on the list, and I’d live there in a heart beat. You can’t pay me enough to visit the US, or many other nations on that list.

      [quote]The trouble with Canada is the Western half has all the money and the Eastern half has all the communist/socialists in Torronto, telling everyone how they are going to spend it.[/quote]

      yes, yes yes, those filthy “commies” and “socialists” in that damned northern nation. LOL. The way Americans have confused and abused these terms over the last 40 years, with an increased effort as of late, has stripped them of all meaning. When I hear Americans using them, you might as well as being mumbling with marbles in your yap. You’d at least make more sense.

      The right in America feared “terrorists” around every corner when the Republicans were in change, and now that Democrats are in office, we’re back to the fearing RED MENACE again. I sure hope the Conservative Base of the US issued a memo to the terrorists to cease and desist all activities, at least until the Right finishes demonizing and demoralizing 52% of the American public, the progressives, as “enemies of the state”.

      Looking forward to the civil war. Should make for great TV.

    • bo

      [quote]Rank Country GDP (millions of USD)
      À¢€” World 78,360,000
      À¢€” European Union 18,930,000
      1 United States 14,330,000
      2 Japan 4,844,000 [/quote]

      I LOVE it when people rank the European Union as a country so that some type of entity can even come close to the U.S. in something! 😉 😀

    • Simpleton

      Nail on the head
      “I presume you read Portuguese reasonably well (otherwise your wife should be happy to translate it for you!”) – JDS to VC

      No doubt many of us can read Portuguese reasonably well, the problem is trying not to laugh so hard sometimes as even your noble self can admit dear Joao. As to our wives reading and translating it to us, your’s can (although she finds spanish much more distasteful), maybe VIn d’ Cate’ds carioca can, DowNBuyacu’s bahian can, my other wife can, even meu filha adotiva can, but there is the point. As a majority, they are the ones that will elect our new president.

    • aes

      Switzerland is just behind Indonesia’s GDP, well done Indonesia! Hell even Norway ‘the economic giant’ is only a few dollars away from Switzerland.
      Rank Country GDP (millions of USD)
      À¢€” World 78,360,000
      À¢€” European Union 18,930,000
      1 United States 14,330,000
      2 Japan 4,844,000
      3 China (PRC) 4,222,000
      4 Germany 3,818,000
      5 France 2,987,000
      6 United Kingdom 2,787,000
      7 Italy 2,399,000
      8 Russia 1,757,000
      9 Spain 1,683,000
      10 Brazil 1,665,000
      11 Canada 1,564,000
      12 India 1,237,000
      13 Mexico 1,143,000
      14 Australia 1,069,000
      15 Netherlands 909,500
      16 South Korea 857,500
      17 Turkey 798,900
      18 Poland 567,400
      19 Belgium 530,600
      20 Saudi Arabia 528,300
      21 Sweden 512,900
      22 Indonesia 496,800
      23 Switzerland 492,600
      24 Norway 481,100

    • Canadense
    • Canadense

      Ch C misses the point as usual
      If you had bothered to read the story you would have seen that Switzerland is the first Western country to devaluate its currency due to damaging its exports and tourism. This could be the first step towards similar measures by other countries which would increase protectionism and therefore make the current global economic crisis worse.

      Nice job Switzerland…btw, did you know that if one of the two biggest Swiss banks went under that the Government would not have the funds to prop it up and the country could possibly go bankrupt?

      With increasing international pressure on the Swiss private banks to be more ‘open’ that probably increases the chances of less international money flowing into the backbone of the Swiss economy.

      If I was Swiss, I would be worried…but Ch C knows everything so I’m sure his glorious country will rise to the top 😉

    • Double-Dot

      Why talk about Canada here?
      Who cares about Canadians ? Canadians are idiots anyway…

      God bless America

    • aes

      It was indeed the White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were responsible. Lula should have used the term WASPs
      Lula should have used the term WASPS (white anglo saxon Protestants) instead of blond haired blue eyed devils. For indeed it is the elite WASPS that own the banks: what is today the United States. The New England Yankee elite were almost exclusively of British extraction (the remainder consisting mostly of prominent Dutch and French Huguenot families), although some early German immigrants, largely Protestant, arrived in the Dutch colony of New Netherland.

      The original WASP establishment created and dominated the social structure of the United States and its significant institutions when the country’s social structure took shape in the 17th century until the 20th century. Many scholars, including researcher Anthony Smith, argue that nations tend to be formed on the basis of a pre-modern ethnic “core” that provides the myths, symbols, and memories for the modern nation and that WASPs were indeed that core.[7] Many only associate America’s elite institutions with WASPs when it has always been a wider, more diverse group. The class is still imagined to dominate America’s prep schools and to older universities including those in the Ivy League. It is true that these elite institutions were important to a certain portion of WASPs, who were taught skills, habits, and attitudes and formed connections which carried over to the influential spheres of finance, culture, and politics. WASPs were once major players in the Republican Party, particularly in the Northeast. Politicians such as Leverett Saltonstall of Massachusetts, Prescott Bush of Connecticut, and Nelson Rockefeller of New York exemplified the liberal Republicanism of their social stratum, espousing internationalist views on foreign policy, supporting social programs, and holding progressive views on issues like racial integration and abortion.

    • aes

      The trouble with Canada is the Western half has all the money and the Eastern half has all the communist/socialists in Torronto, telling everyone how they are going to spend it.
      Edmonton, Calgary, Kamloops they all hate the East. Eastern Canada, including Quebec contribute nothing to the economy of Canada.

    • João da Silva

      asp
      [quote]good points , joao , and on your other post..[/quote]

      Oh, thanks ASP for your kind words that I do not really deserve!!

      But, do you think that Ch.c is fully capable of extricating himself from the ambush laid by our esteemed Canadian bloggers or he has surrendered and exercising his rights to remain silent?

      Another possibility is that he is forming a formidable alliance with Mr.Daniels and on his way to invest in Afghanistan?

      [quote]i mean, i was there in the jungles when the columbian missles hit the farc camp, having coffee and looking and porn on the lap top of the leader…it was messey[/quote]

      You shouldn’t reveal such details, my friend. Because Mr.Daniels might arrange with his friend Putin to extradite you from here and send to one of the luxurious Gulags in Siberia, where you will feel like a fish out of InglÀƒ©ses. 😉 😀 😉

      Cheers

    • asp

      good points , joao , and on your other post..
      i dont think mr danial knows my good freind, fernando beira mar…and my freinds at the pcc…i was there when they captured my freind fernando with THE FARC….and, i hated seeing my buddies at the pcc outed on a tv report recently that they had serious drugs and arms deals with…..THE FARC…. you know…THE FARC…those good old asumed marxist commie guys from colombia THE FARC…who kidnap brazilian citezens off the border…ive heard two seperate tv reports about this….(i dont think its the capatilist jewish guys behind the reports, or the blue eyed capatalist guys , i mean for fucking crying out loud , which is it, blue eyed or jewish?????)

      and, i dont think mr danials puts it together very well that guys like correa of equador think its ok to be freinds with ….THE FARC…. or that recent surrenduring farc guerilas admited there were 6 or 7 camps in equador and that they saw generals from equador , drug dealers from all over the world and high powered weapons from venezuela coming in….

      yeah, i dont think mr danials brain can wrap around the fact that its pretty blatent that my old freind huey chavez is supporting …THE FARC… moraly and physicaly , and that he is giving money illegaly to various political campains around latin america and exerting covert and overt actions to promote his “bolivian revolution”…which is the definition of imperialism by the way…..commies can be imperialists too…..

      i mean, i was there in the jungles when the columbian missles hit the farc camp, having coffee and looking and porn on the lap top of the leader…it was messey

    • João da Silva

      observer
      [quote]Where is the vaunted Swiss banking system?????[/quote]

      For some unknown reason, today we have several of our esteemed regular bloggers seem to be launching thought provoking and mind boggling questions. 😉

      Even Obama has joined us and letÀ‚´s hope he interacts with us more often. 😉

    • João da Silva

      [quote]Has anybody seen someone who is either an Al Quaida, a Taliban or an Islamist? It seems that they can’t hold Adolph Osama Hitler nee Bin Laden guilty of this war? Our war machine is after who? Brown skinned brown eyes? or are we really after resources like oil?
      Who exactly is the enemy?
      [/quote]

      As usual, though provoking questions from you, Mr.Daniels. I would rather let your compatriots in this blog answer them. But, your friends the Russians are no angels either or have you forgotten their disastrous invasion of Afghanistan? Have you forgotten that they were slaughtered by the Afghans em masse? Have you forgotten that they were lead by your brave erstwhile ally and current foe OBL? May be OBL is alive and well living in neutral Switzerland.

      [quote]Lula, your next. If they can make a war against nobody in particular as they are doing in the Middle East, they can do the same in South America.[/quote]

      Why should the “Blue eyed white skinned” folks target Mr.Lula? His mandate is going to be over by end 2010. On the other hand, Chavez may be the next, as he is messing with the constitution of Venezuela to become an eternal “ruler” and has already picked up a fight with your President who is neither white nor has blue eyes.

    • observer

      Where is the vaunted Swiss banking system?????
      Ouch Ch C, this was released in your country….

      In the midst of a global market crisis, a survey by the World Economic Forum has proclaimed Canada to have the world’s soundest banking system.

      Placing just behind were Sweden, Luxembourg, Australia and Denmark in the World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report, released on Wednesday in Switzerland.

      Twelve-thousand corporate executives around the world were interviewed on a number of questions and ranked banks around the world on a scale of one to seven — one being insolvent and possibly in need of government assistance and seven being entirely healthy.

      Canada’s banking industry, led by Royal Bank, CIBC, Scotiabank, TD Bank, Bank of Montreal and National Bank, was given a rating of 6.8, the best ranking of any banking system in the world.

      The top 10 soundest banking countries are as follows:

      Canada (6.8)
      Sweden (6.7)
      Luxembourg (6.7)
      Australia (6.7)
      Denmark (6.7)
      Netherlands (6.7)
      Belgium (6.6)
      New Zealand (6.6)
      Ireland (6.6)
      Malta (6.6)

    • João da Silva

      VinnyCarioca
      [quote]Coincidentally, Joe Biden (see above Miami Herald article) is a blue eyed white man. I wonder what he thought of Lula’s remark given his own propensity for gaffes.[/quote]

      Vinny:I think that if at all Joe Biden had heard LulaÀ‚´s comments, he would have thought that it was a typical statement of a populist politician to enhance his image at home and hence he must have brushed it aside.As for the article you reproduced, Joe Biden repeated what BHO told Lula regarding Cuba, which I think is correct. For the past 50 years, Cuba is being ruled by Castro dynasty with no free elections in sight. I wonder why Lula has taken this issue of Cuba and championing for its cause with U.S., instead of minding our own business.

      Coming back to the article and the statement made by Biden, I think that the real reason for the participation of Biden in the “Summit” in Chile yesterday was to persuade the the leaders of the LatAm countries [b][i]not [/i][/b]to insist on the creation of a “Global System” to regulate the World Financial Markets as proposed by EU. BTW, Brasil is siding with EU on this issue that is to be discussed in the G-20 meeting this week in London.I presume you read Portuguese reasonably well (otherwise your wife should be happy to translate it for you!) and posting an interesting link for you to read:

      [url]http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodehoje/20090329/not_imp346439,0.php[/url]

      I think that the G-20 meeting should be interesting to follow and hopefully, the participating leaders do not commit more gaffes. In my personal opinion, BHO & Biden will be so busy during the next couple of years in fixing the problems of U.S.that the Cuban issue will be put a aside and advices given by our leader will go unheeded.

      As for resumption of Doha round of talks, I don’t think it is going to happen any time soon. From May/June we will be entering into the “election mode” (2010 Elections) and many strange things are likely to happen with respect to our foreign policy , trade talks, economy, etc; As DnB always liked to say, time to eat popcorn and watch the show!!

      Anyway, it is good to see you back in the blog.

    • JACK DANIELS

      At least somebody knows what the problem is? I am not sure who exactly our enemy is?
      “We cannot allow that the poor pay for a crisis made by the rich, mainly because it was not generated by any black, Indian or poor. This crisis was made by white people, with blue eyes, who before the crisis knew everything and, now, know nothing,” he said.

      The Brazilian leader has often blamed the United States for causing a global crisis by practicing “casino capitalism.”

      Casino Capitalism includes war but whereas Lula knows what the problem is in South America, most americans are completely clueless. Today, the US is trying to restart it’s dominant role in South America but in the middle east , where we are trying to steal resources, we are fighting a war against Terror? Does anyone know exactly what we are fighting for? Obama claims we are fighting Al Quaida? Who is Alquaida? The jews say we are fighting Islam religion? This is a crusade waged by jews, not spaniards? or Catholics? Finally, there are those who claim we are fighting the Taliban?

      Has anybody seen someone who is either an Al Quaida, a Taliban or an Islamist? It seems that they can’t hold Adolph Osama Hitler nee Bin Laden guilty of this war? Our war machine is after who? Brown skinned brown eyes? or are we really after resources like oil? Lula, your next. If they can make a war against nobody in particular as they are doing in the Middle East, they can do the same in South America.

      Who exactly is the enemy?

    • VinnyCarioca

      Joao
      [quote]For those who do not know Brasil well: There are many many blue eyed Brasilians also and the comment made by the President did not go well with them.[/quote]
      Coincidentally, Joe Biden (see above Miami Herald article) is a blue eyed white man. I wonder what he thought of Lula’s remark given his own propensity for gaffes.

    • Simpleton

      All them and them some
      Being near to the northern reaches hinterland (and canadese), the vast majority of the Brasileira ex-pat’s I encounter are of the light skinned blue-eyed types. Although they be in that category, on a personal basis I still have predilection to liking them over the French speaking KuntaKinta’s I also know and do business with. At least with their box of detergent degrees and “training” they are book smart on top of having a bit more humanity, humility, unbiased humour, etc., etc., etc..

      Love this crowd of oldsters we seem to have herein along with their appreciation of music from the early / mid 70’s but as the lyrics say we can never go back (there) again. Making ta liga with the braxo’s is as close as I can see mangaging to get. What a wonderful life.

      Ch, please stop beating up on the CunCrooks with your statistical correctness, nickle mining and clear cutting pines puts them exactly into the commodity based economic woes as your more favored nation.

    • VinnyCarioca

      Oh well…I guess the Cuban embargo issue is settled
      From the Miami Herald 3/29/09
      [quote]In his first official visit to Latin America, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden said Saturday the White House wants the region to play a more active role in organizations such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund and ruled out lifting the embargo on Cuba.

      Biden spoke in Chile at the Summit of Progressive Leaders, a meeting of like-minded center-left politicians from the Americas and Europe.

      In a news conference, he was asked if the Obama administration would back Latin American countries in a push for greater power within the world’s multilateral institutions; if it would support reform of the U.N. charter; and if it would lift the decades-old Cuban embargo.

      ”Yes, yes and no,” Biden responded. He acknowledged that the global economic crisis presented ”an opportunity to recalibrate the world economic agenda” and that ”emerging countries should have a bigger say as we deal with that,” saying that included reform of the World Bank and IMF.

      Latin American countries have long complained that they are under-represented at the world’s major political and economic bodies.

      On Cuba, Biden said there was “a need for a transition in our policy, but we all share one thing in common: We think the Cuban people should determine their own fate and that they should be able to live in freedom and with some prospect of economic prosperity.”[/quote]

      How do you think the Obama administration will be perceived in LatAm going forward? Do you think this makes a difference?

    • Double-Dot

      Obama
      [quote]Switzerland is so small and tiny that it’s not even worth mentioning it ..so why bother discussing about that ? [/quote]

      Mr.President, instead of discussing about it, we just take it with a couple of battalions of 101 Airborne. We are waiting for your orders,sir.

    • Obama

      Switzerland
      I always said Switzerland is crap country… A country which is so tiny is not capable of becoming rich without foreign money…. 90% of the population there is paid by foreign companies with foreign money as the country is so tiny and the land is not good for anything.. no fruit grows in snow so not just their money comes from abroad but their food too…

      The only thing that comes from Switzerland is their big ego and racism… that is typical from Switzerland

      Switzerland is so small and tiny that it’s not even worth mentioning it ..so why bother discussing about that ?

    • Canadian

      Ch.c.
      Your tiny midget country Swtizerland is pathetic, insignificant country.. Canada has a way bigger economy than Switzerland which only survives by BEGGING for foreign investment and foreign banks’ money… Switzerland is a tax haven to attract foreign investment because its people are incapable of doing the work themselves..

      Having said that, There was a recent article I read that Swizerland intends to make the English language official in the country so that it attracts more business people and more Canadian money as we speak english… Their people are lazy bastards.. they desperately need foreign workers and investment..

    • ch.c.

      Canadense…what a joke……what a joke… !
      My country is buying foreign currencies BECAUSE OUR CURRENCY IS WAY WAY WAY……. TOO STRONG !!!!!!!!

      The US$ is 10 % from its ALL TIME LOW…against the CHF.
      At the time of my country intervention a few weeks ago, the Euro was near its 2003 LOW.

      The whole effect of the intervention, BY NOW, is a 3 % decline against the Euro..and ZERO PERCENT against the US$ !!!!!!!

      WHOAAAAAAAAA….WHAT A CURRENCY DEVALUATION……AS YOU SAID !!!!!!

      Last but not least :
      IF YOU KNOW ONE OR MORE CURRENCY THAT HAS BEEN STRONGER THAN THE SWISS FRANC OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS…..PLEASE BE KIND TO NAME AND SPELL THIS/THESE CURRENCIES !
      Better yet :
      We not only have the world strongest currency over the decades AND WE DID THIS BY HAVING…..ONE THE WORLD LOWEST INTERESTS RATES !

      The Canadian dollar has been DEVALUED TIME AND AGAIN….TIME AND AGAIN…AGAINST MY COUNTRY CURRENCY !!!!
      And devaluation being not enough…you obviously had to compensate somewhat…WITH MUCH HIGHER INTERESTS RATES.

      Simple as that…CANUCK !

      You better review the currencies historical charts…ON A SECULAR BASIS…OVER 40 YEARS….OR MORE…TO GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT CURRENCIES DID…AND THEREFORE SHOULD AS WELL CONTINUE DOING !

      Since 1970 the BP declined by a factor of 7, the US$ declined by a factor of 4, ALL Europeans (except the DM) currencies declined by a factor of 3 to 7…AGAINST MY CURRENCY !

      Ohhhhhhh dont even try to figure out the Brazilian currency decline, during that same time.

      Their devaluation was easily by a factor of 4’000’000, probably even MUCH more !
      NEARLY AS GOOD AS ZIMBABWE !
      😮

      😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉
      😉 😮

    • Canadense

      Fox and Oreilly
      Anyone who watches that crap is definately a pinhead themselves…

    • Canadense

      CH C
      The Swiss is devaluing their currency as well:

      http://www.rferl.org/Content/Switzerland_Becomes_First_Major_Western_Currency_To_Devalue_Currency/1509618.html

      Maybe you should worry about your own country.

    • João da Silva

      [quote]Song for Lula[/quote]

      An apt one.

      For those who do not know Brasil well: There are many many blue eyed Brasilians also and the comment made by the President did not go well with them. Some old “Blue eyed” Brasilians in their late 70À‚´s still remember the ordeal they had to go through during the WW2, just because they had blue eyes and white skinned. That is another story.

      It is a Sad, Sad,Sad world.

    • observer

      Song for Lula
      No one knows what its like
      To be the bad man
      To be the sad man
      Behind blue eyes

      No one knows what its like
      To be hated
      To be fated
      To telling only lies
      …………………………………….The Who circa 1971

    • JACK DANIELS

      Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:29:27 GMT

      Neo-Nazi Greek writer Constantine Plevris was convicted for his anti-Semite book ‘The Jews — The Whole Truth’
      A Greek appeals court has exonerated the author of an anti-Semitic book who was given a 14-month suspended sentence in December 2008. He said that the Jews were putting one over on us and that the Holocaust was a bunch of crap?

      The court cleared Constantine Plevris of racial insults and inciting hatred and racial violence with his book The Jews — The Whole Truth.

      Lawyer and self-declared neo-Nazi Plevris denies the Holocaust in his 1,400-page book, takes sides with the Nazis and threatens Jews.

      Published in 2006, the book also accuses Jews of being sub-human and worthy of the firing squad.

      Greece’s Central Jewish Council (KIS) expressed ‘disappointment and astonishment’ at the decision and vowed to take the case to the Supreme Court.

      The appeals court verdict “does not protect freedom of expression but a self-proclaimed neo-Nazi and anti-Semite,” the KIS told AFP.

      The case against Plevris, which was the first of its kind in Greece, was initiated by the KIS and the Greek minority rights organization.

      Plevris had said that his conviction would only show that the judges had been À¢€œbought by the Jews.”

      About 6,000 people live in Greece and anti-Semitic literature is freely produced and circulated in the country.

      Gengi?

      What’s the world coming to? Santa Clause, Che is Alive…no 6,000,000?

    • João da Silva

      [quote]Damn those Canadians!!!![/quote]

      Especially those who got their degree certificates from you know where. 😉 😀

    • João da Silva

      Ch.c
      [quote]Joao :
      I did not understood your “ch.c….communicate to his fellow bloggers about his welfare a few hours ago.”
      please clarify. [/quote]

      I thought Comrade Jack Daniels had mistyped and instead of saying “Ch.c ” , he said “Ch.e” is alive. I had to confirm that you were indeed alive, since you had posted an entry few hours prior to his comment!

    • jon

      Mugabe of Zimbabwe has used this excuse for thirty years…..inflation in his country zooms to 1000%..blame the British…..his people are starving…blame the British again

    • jon

      Damn those Canadians!!!!

    • ch.c.

      Joao and Jack !
      Joao :
      I did not understood your “ch.c….communicate to his fellow bloggers about his welfare a few hours ago.”
      please clarify.

      Jack
      – Your… Kat Man Do Do
      Are you talking about Kit Kat ? Brazilians poors dream of having this confection affordable, but it is not, sadly for them !
      😀 😉
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Kat

      – Che is alive !
      Sure…so is Santa Claus, and in better heatlh than Che. Is Santa Claus story not selling a MILLION TIMES more than Che alive story ?
      Eventually you should change your readings and beliefs ! No doubt those selling the Santa Claus gifts will welcome you.

      Last but not least on Brazil and U.K.,
      Both are losers !
      Their first trick ? CURRENCY DEVALUATIONS…TIME AND AGAIN….TIME AND AGAIN…AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN !
      Their second trick is to figure out in what pocket they have to put their fingers in or how can they change the name of the game to benefit them !
      That is why they met.

    • du 48

      Feeling slightly uncomfortable,Gordon?Don’t worry,it’s just an attack of ‘Domestic Consumption’.
      Sound’s like Lula’s doing Hugo Chavez’s bidding for the G20 in London next week.
      Hot air and no policy,as usual.
      The swiss cheese shouldn’t fret too much-By all accounts EU auto factories in Brazil remitted record earnings this year and the IPI tax reduction on cars has been extended -to keep the unions at bay and the money rolling in….

    • VinnyCarioca

      Brazil’s Lula Finds Culprit for Global Crisis: White People with Blue Eyes
      It’s a good thing that the “white people with blue eyes” had nothing to do with the economic boom in Brazil. How hypocritical would that be? 😀

    • aes

      On Fox: O’Reilly said the President of Brazil was a ‘pin head’ 20 million people saw the clip of Lula along with the comments of O’Reilly.
      [url]http://www.noga.blog.br/uploaded_images/lulapinhead-718651.jpg [/url]

      pinhead (n.)1.the head of a pin

      2.an ignorant or foolish person

      3.(informal)a person of subnormal intelligence

      synonyms

      pinhead (n.)blockhead, bonehead, boob, booby, chump, dolt, dope, dumbbell, dumbo, dummy, dunce, fathead, hammerhead, idiot, loggerhead, nincompoop, nitwit, numskull, peabrain

      pinhead (n.) (informal)ass, bonehead, changeling, chump, cretin, dimwit, dolt, donkey, dope, dumbo, dummy, dunce, fathead, fool, half-wit, idiot, imbecile, moron, nincompoop, nitwit, numskull, nut, oaf, retard, berk (British), booby (informal), bugger (colloquial, spÀƒ©c. anglais britannique), burk (British), damn fool (colloquial), dumbbell (colloquial), hammerhead (American), jackass (colloquial, U.S.A.), loggerhead (old), peabrain (colloquial), twerp (informal), wally (colloquial)

    • João da Silva

      asp
      [quote]i told him “gengi , gengi ( he was my good freind) , take it easy on the ladies , man..” [/quote]

      Mr.Daniels and you seem to have rubbed shoulders with some important historical figures. BUT….BUT…., while Mr.Daniels appears to behave like an ex- subordinate of Stalin and Guevara, you were indeed a peer, friend and Guru to Mr.Khan. Not many people would call him by his first name “Gengi”. I am impressed and so should Mr.Daniels be.

    • asp

      in kat man doo , jackdanials ? hell i was there with gengis khan…
      i was there when he passed on his seed to most of the women he raped when he conquered them and now 1/4 th of the population , in that area, now has dna that can be traced back to him..

      that takes the cake in all history except the capatilist elite, actualy the cia was there and pursuaded him to take advantage of the women

      i told him “gengi , gengi ( he was my good freind) , take it easy on the ladies , man..”

      i was there, in person…

      by the way,this name…. alexander orlov…you never got that one…..its the key to your stalin trials…but you got your ligic really twisted about 6,000,000 jews killed in the holocaust, what do you expect ?

    • João da Silva

      [quote]sorry forgot to sign my first name….[/quote]

      You don’t have to apologize. You are much more famous and better known in this country than your current boss Gordie Brown.

    • ronald biggs

      It’s good to know that the Brit press do not completely condemn Lula! The man is a demagogue, but it’s hard to know who is more demagogue in this “outcry”. Bitches, stop winning!!! And stealing 8)

      sorry forgot to sign my first name….

    • biggs

      Paolo34
      Hey Paulo34, are all cute your opinions about your metallurgic president, but… I believe he is a product of an elitist class who wants everything for themselves and nothing to the no-haves who put him at the palacio da alvorada.Your well-educated haves do a good at keeping Brazil as a such backward country in terms of democracy, development, and quality of life. HOw about that?

    • xxx

      Lula’s gaf makes the rounds
      From the front page of DIGG, to the Huffington Post, BBC, CBC, ABC, NBC, to, surprise surprise, FOX NEWS Lula’s stupidity is now immortalized in the blogosphere, and the squid now shares the same stage of fame as his South American counterparts. That’s to say, another typical freakzoide Latino blowing snot bubbles from his nose huffing and puffing about something he knows abs. nothing about. Nice job Lula!

    • João da Silva

      Jack Daniels
      [quote]Che is still Alive[/quote]

      Mr.Daniels, if you are talking about Ch.c, I confirm that he is still alive though not anywhere near Kat Man Do. He did communicate to his fellow bloggers about his welfare a few hours ago.

      On the other hand, if you are talking about Che Guevara , you must be blogging from the Heavens where you are keeping him company. Also you confirm the theory that there is indeed life after death. 🙂

    • JACK DANIELS

      Che is still Alive
      In Kat Man Do Do there was a protest against the government. Ernesto led the rally. Everyone in the crowd had purchased one of his t-shirts. He’s selling them like hot cakes. Flags waved and 5000 riot police were around with guns and shields to make sure the crowd led by Che did not get out of hand. Who said Che is dead?

    • asp

      has anyone ever read “bart simpson is really a cia agent……
      who killed che guevera…”

      its a best seller where i am from

    • Joao de Deus

      Latin American George Bush
      The Latin American George Bush does not miss an opportunity to insert his foot in his mouth. It goes to show that there are idiots everywhere.

    • JACK DANIELS

      The Bubble Burst…its all Brazil’s fault…
      Captialism relies on open markets. The minute they close, it spells war. tRADE BARRIERS is an act of war. A country that nationalizes will reap the benefits of the American war machine. We have the big stick…you don’t. Lula has no choice but to give in to Britain or else.

      Has anyone read the Shock Doctrine: The rise of Disaster Capitalism, Naomi Klein, 2008. That book goes good with THE SHADOW WARRIORS: OSS AND THE ORIGINS OF THE CIA, BRADLEY F. SMITH, BASIC BOOKS, INC..1983.

    • João da Silva

      Ch.c
      [quote]Better yet….Brazil has 100 % imports taxes on cars made in the USA.[/quote]

      This is not the issue here. The main question is if the President has included the Blue eyed Swiss also in his list of Villains. 😉 😀 😉

    • JG

      …..Are you serious?
      ……”Brazil,” Charles de Gaulle once reportedly remarked, “is not a serious country.”

    • me

      Wow!
      Lula’s statement is the ne plus ultra of the Brazilian “don’t blame me” attitude.

    • João da Silva

      The British newspapers did not fail to cover this important encounter between their P.M and our Prez:

      [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/26/lula-attacks-white-bankers-crash[/url]

      😀

    • Alice in Wonderland

      Somethings never change
      Thanks Lula, your political sophistication and diplomatic grace again has the world in awe. Front page on DIGG already. Keep it up. We so enjoy bearing witness to Brazilian refinement and tactful grace on the world stage. This should hasten your quest for a Security Council seat.

    • forrest allen brown

      costa must have gotton to lula
      what was lulas reply on this one

      We must name and make public those countries that break agreements they have made, that they be monitored by the World Trade Organization and abide by its rules,” Brown said

      so i guess lula is playing the race card
      we poor blacks need help getting something for free
      the white people of brasil took our land from our indains

      this will play out all over the place

    • bo

      Green Eyes!!
      have another pinga…….LMAO… 😉 😉 😉

    • asp

      he should have said something like “started by the rich elite…”
      i wonder how brown reacted after that one…?

    • ch.c.

      “The USA is the largest customer for Brazil exports”
      Better yet….Brazil has 100 % imports taxes on cars made in the USA.
      On top of that, 20 % of Brazil exports to the USA are….TAX FREE….under the Most Favored Nations U.S. law !!!!!

      Developed nations cars/trucks manufacturers should CLOSE ALL their Brazilians plants until RECIPROCITY is negotiated.

      😀 😉

    • bo

      Want to talk about…
      Xenophobia and racism…well, there it is folks. No big surprise for those of us familiar with Brazil!

    • Doggy Daddy

      Can’t believe my eyes
      “We cannot allow that the poor pay for a crisis made by the rich, mainly because it was not generated by any black, Indian or poor. This crisis was made by white people, with blue eyes, who before the crisis knew everything and, now, know nothing,” he said.

      Please , how do we find a way out of this stupid morress. The USA is the largest customer for Brazil exports. Maybe the Americans should not be buying from Brazil until Brazil gets on its knees and begs the USA for more business.

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