Obama to Meet Brazil’s Lula in March and Later Travel to Brazil

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    President Obama It's all set: Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva will meet US President Barack Obama this coming March, in Washington. Obama, invited Lula for the meeting during a phone call initiated by the American president, this Monday, January 26. Lula was already scheduled to be in New York in March for a seminary on biofuels where he will meet foreign investors.

    Lula reciprocated inviting Obama to visit Brazil. The US leader accepted and although no date was set up, Obama said that he might visit Brasí­lia during the summer, American summer, that is. The two leaders talked for about 25 minutes.

    According to Marcelo Baumbach, Lula's spokesman, the Brazilian president during his chat with Obama talked among other things about US relations with Latin America and Africa, the G20 (group of the world's 20 largest economies). biofuels, climatic changes and world peace.

    Obama, on the other hand, talked about his desire to establish a partnership with Brazil. Lula didn't mention, however, a subject he has often said he would like to see the new president tackle: the US embargo to Cuba, which Lula opposes.

    The Brazilian leader mentioned during the phone conversation stretches of Obama's speech about the need to look after the poor.  "Obama assured that he wishes to work in concert with president Lula in order to reinforce peace and stability in the continent and strengthen the economic relations between both countries," said Baumbach.

    "President Obama informed that he has already briefed his economic team so they may coordinate with Brazil in order to conciliate positions for the next G20 summit. Regarding biofuels, he recognized that the work with Brazil has been very important for the United States, which has a lot to benefit from a cooperation with Brazil," added the spokesperson.

    Obama showed also interest in advancing the Doha Round negotiations arguing about the importance of the world trade in order to face the current international economic crisis.

    Brazil's Foreign minister, Celso Amorim, and the US secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, were expected to talk on Monday by phone to discuss details of president Lula's visit as well as the meeting's agenda.

    At the end of the conversation both president seemed very comfortable with each other. Obama asked Lula to call him simply Barack. To which the Brazilian leader asked to be called Lula.

    Lula told Obama that he had seen the inauguration ceremony in Washington and had noticed that there were some black people and some poor. He said that he understood that because Brazil is the world's second largest black country.

    The American president then commented, according to a presidential aide who listened to the conversation: "I know. If I went to Brazil everyone would think that I am Brazilian, that is until I tried to speak Portuguese."

    Lula also told Obama that his election will change the image that Latin America and the world have about the US. "Your election transcends the United States," he asserted.

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    • Richard Rebelo

      We should be good friends with Brazil.
      I find it so refreshing to read about my president talking to foreign leaders and not be embarassed. Brazil is the next big oil producer and the US should’ve been cozzying up to them a long time ago. Its a much better source of forgien oil than the middle east. Brazil is managing its oil discoveries very wisely, claiming much of the oil as belonging to the people, instead of handing it over to selfish oil companies. Brazil is using their oil boom to build infrastrure and jobs in Brazil.

    • João da Silva

      Forrest
      [quote]WHILE walking about here today i had an idea how about lula take lula on a tour
      of a favela as that is where brasil keeps most of its people of color & blacks
      [/quote]

      That is creative thinking, Forrest!

      [quote]back to cuba we met 4 brasilians here going to school to be doctors we spent some time with them
      and asked them why cuba for school the older one said she had been in school in brasil for 5 years and with all the
      teachers strikes , lack of room money she decide to come here and finish medical school before she was to old on never finish as so many do in brasil .[/quote]

      I don’t know how far her claim is true about the strike, lack of money for room rent, etc; In fact Shelly wrote a few months ago that her sister decided to join a private medical school, because of the strikes in Federal University Medical schools. To get into a Federal University, the admission exam is very tough. If you pass it and get into the university, the fees are minimal. The last time the Federal University professors went on strike (at least in our state) was in 2005.

      [quote]the other 3 said they found out about school in cuba by talking to other students , and there perants have little money
      it is cheeper to go to school ,rent a house by food and live in cuba than brasil so there perants sent them . [/quote]

      This is true and applies not only to Cuba, but some Caribbean and Central American countries. Years ago I read that lots of American youngsters without much money used to go study there and get into Residencies after writing that famous ATFMG (Aptitude Test For Foreign Medical Graduates). It used to be a source for bringing in dollars.

      But, I am not sure if the Cuban medical degree is recognized by the Brazilian Medical Association or AMA. I guess the girls must know.

      [quote]most people here dont get TV other than a few hours a day . [/quote]

      That is great. The kids can devote their time more for studying. No Xuxa for them. 😀 As you know, I am not a big fan of TV nor “novelas”

      [quote]we invited them down to the boat for movies and food
      will give them this web site to post there lives[/quote]

      That is nice of you two. I am sure they would appreciate your gestures and Fatima will make them feel at home.

      It is already 29th and old Fidel seems to be well,alive and kicking. Should invite him to your boat too. 😀

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      HAY JOAO
      WHILE walking about here today i had an idea how about lula take lula on a tour
      of a favela as that is where brasil keeps most of its people of color & blacks

      that will give obama an idea of how well his people are treated in a growing country like brasil???

      back to cuba we met 4 brasilians here going to school to be doctors we spent some time with them
      and asked them why cuba for school the older one said she had been in school in brasil for 5 years and with all the
      teachers strikes , lack of room money she decide to come here and finish medical school before she was to old on never finish as so many do in brasil .

      the other 3 said they found out about school in cuba by talking to other students , and there perants have little money
      it is cheeper to go to school ,rent a house by food and live in cuba than brasil so there perants sent them .
      as far as they know castro is alive ,
      the boxers are still in jail the ones that lula sent back and will be for some time .

      most people here dont get TV other than a few hours a day .

      we invited them down to the boat for movies and food
      will give them this web site to post there lives

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      hay joao
      we are on the boat as we have all we need on it and the hotels around himiway houbor have little to offer .
      most are filled with sail boators having there boats reparied as brasil is to unsafe to have it done there
      as the navy will just take them , my artical about the roamdeep is still on the wall here how brasil took it
      they use it as a sails pitch to get work ,

      went out to eat had griled shark with black beans a rice with some fresh greens and totries and tostinoies
      with fruit juice so full i could pop.

      the price was 1 pint jiff peanutbutter ,six pack soft drinks .
      before i leave i will end up giving marta enough stuff to sell to sailors to make her life much easer
      i have known her for some 15 years now and 6 kids

      i asked her about castro she got big eyed and said we will know more after the roast pig later this week
      tomrrow we are going to havana to see el moro and the comander of ports to get a paper where we can go to the isle of youth ,
      and do some fishing & scuba diving along the coast

      i differ with you
      cuba has done nothing to the US comparied to what brasil has done , as false friend at best .
      with 60,000 tourtist from the US a year at least it would boost the econmey by far .and give the people of the US
      a better look at the cuban people just maybe they would start to demand something be done by the US government
      to stop the hunger and miss treatmeant of the people of cuba by there government .
      unlike the crooks in charge of brasil

    • VinnyCarioca

      Obama and Lula Exchanging Platitudes
      Forget lifting the Cuban embargo. If Obama does not want guaranteed filibusters throughout his first term, he should not even approach that issue. He essentially ran on a protectionist platform throughout the presidential campaign so he should enjoy the adulation he’s receiving from Lula for now because I suspect it won’t last very long. The tough choices he will be forced to make regarding the economy, Israel/Palestine, and the ongoing war on terrorism may befuddle those who thought he was actually the “messiah” who would magically improve the world’s opinion of the U.S.
      [quote]as far as cuba goes the best thing obama could do is to drop the embargo and let some 300 million people have the right
      to travle to cuba spend there money and show the people of the US dont hate cuba only the anil rentive cuban controled
      goverment does , stop the feet dry for cubans make them stand in line like every one else.[/quote]
      Americans already know the Cuban people do not dislike them and vice versa. It is, in my view, hypocritical for the U.S. government to take such strong actions against a small country 90 off our shores while at the same time we tolerate human rights abuses in China (who the new Treasury Secretary recently accused of currency manipulation).

    • asp

      sorry joao, it was you who said it ahhhh
      yeah, im sure i agree with you about this

    • asp

      yes, augustus , im sure i would agree about this diplomatic issue with italy
      joao brought in a good article from estado. the comments were very revealing also, showing disapointment with the tarso desician…

    • João da Silva

      Forrest
      [quote]as far as cuba goes the best thing obama could do is to drop the embargo and let some 300 million people have the right
      to travle to cuba spend there money and show the people of the US dont hate cuba only the anil rentive cuban controled
      goverment does , stop the feet dry for cubans make them stand in line like every one else. [/quote]

      Hey Forrest,

      Are you blogging from the shore or using your PC on the boat ? I imagine there would be censureship there if you are using the computers at the hotel. I am curious.

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      most countries in afrcia are 97 % pure black
      not mix as brazzil. is and if they do have that many blacks how come they dont have a better rights than they do in brasil
      why are there not black senators , congresman ???
      singers , movie stars , TV reportors

      does any one want to bet when obama comes down lula is ringed by black cildren and other people of color !!!!!
      to show blacks are better off in brasil than in the US .

      LULA will not help the itilan police as he does not want to loose his dual citisenship on such a little thing as a murder!!

      brasilian oil well it is better for makeing toys , computer bodies thoes cheep bags to get when you go to the store

      as far as cuba goes the best thing obama could do is to drop the embargo and let some 300 million people have the right
      to travle to cuba spend there money and show the people of the US dont hate cuba only the anil rentive cuban controled
      goverment does , stop the feet dry for cubans make them stand in line like every one else.

      gun control well that one would get him in a battle but with charlton heston gone from the NRA well who knows just have to
      rewrite the gratest paper ever written

    • Jerrydill

      Obama
      I think it will be great to have Obama and Lula finally meet. Maybe the US can have better relations with Brazil finally. We’ll see how everything turns out, though.

    • João da Silva

      Augustus
      Hi Augustus,

      Welcome back.

      [quote]I agree with ASP – for once Lula was right! Only Nigeria has a larger black population… [/quote]

      ASP is absolutely right about Nigeria, though I am not sure about Brasil. Not that it makes any difference to the topic under discussion. Though Forrest has questioned about Brasil having the 2nd largest black population, he has left us to guess. I think that the country is South Africa with almost 38 millions of pure black population. But if you take into account the “Mulattos”, Brazil might be the second.

      [quote]I also agree with Joao that both presidents seem to have started their relationship well. [/quote]

      I am glad you agree with me and I am sure you know why I said so!!

      But I am not sure if you are aware that there is a diplomatic tug of war going on between Brasil and Italy. I personally think that Lula should look into this closely and solve the crisis.We certainly cant afford to alienate an important European ally , while reestablishing our friendship with U.S., though the reasons are not interrelated. I am sure our friend “asp” will agree with me.

    • Augustus

      Brazil does appear to be the Country on Earth with the largest black population /// Obama & Lula
      I agree with ASP – for once Lula was right! Only Nigeria has a larger black population…
      It appears that 60% of Brazil (which must have about 190 million inhabitants) seem to be of African descent (the figure does include mixed race individuals – such as President Obama

      I also agree with Joao that both presidents seem to have started their relationship well.
      Although I suspect President Obama may personally agree with the lifting on the Embargo (which I personally oppose, although consider that such decision might be expedient and have a good “outcome” in the very long run), I do not think he will dare making such a move in light of strong opposition from Floridians and most other republicans…. Cuba embargo (as well as À¢€œgun controlÀ¢€Â À¢€“ which would impact a constitutional À¢€œrightÀ¢€Â to bear arms) appear to be one of those “untouchable” issues… Politically speaking…

    • asp

      nigeria has the largest black population

      if lula could deal with bush, and, he did, obama will be a breeze. and, its in the usa’s advantage to try and make some good deals with brazil about the future oil feilds, and bio fuels.other wise, they have to keep dealing with chavez…

      i hope its a new era of hyper detaunt between brazi and the usa

      i sure beleive obama will be more concious of what lula is talking about with poor people than bush ever could be

    • Forrest Allen Brown

      HAY JOAO
      in CUBA now looking for castro , seems the cubans know less than brasil does on castro death ?????
      just may have to go knock on his door !!!!!!!!!!!

      BRASIL IS NOT THE SECOND MOST BLACK COUNTRY where did that come from !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      right know dozens of people are emailing obama and cliton about brasils actions on the roamdeep and shea goldman hope to have 10.000 emails
      and letters by there meeting time and may even stage a protest lula in the US for brasils
      lack of law in his own country while the US and rest of world give respct to brasil

    • João da Silva

      [quote][b]Obama to Meet Brazil’s Lula in March and Later Travel to Brazil[/b][/quote]

      From what I understand, this Teleconference was a success as both the leaders established a personal rapport between them. No thorny issues including the U.S. Cuban relations were discussed and left to be dealt with at later stages.The new POTUS is sure to be aware that Lula ,enjoying an 80% popularity among his people and being a good friend of other South American leaders like Chavez, Morales, Kirchner, etc; , is a formidable ally whose friendship should be cultivated at the earliest stage. So ObamaÀ‚´s decision to call Lula was a very smart diplomatic move and I am sure he found our President to be a charismatic statesman. LetÀ‚´s hope that in the coming years these two leaders will work together to bridge the gap between “North and South”.

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