Brazzil

Your opinion about Brazil's performance against Japan shows to everyone here that you know little about football and that you are just babbling.

They are calling the Brazilian performance against Japan as superb (read Fifa, BBC, etc).

In the first half, the Japanese goalkeeper made 5 spectacular defenses, he is a true Samurai. The Japanese are the actual Asia’s champion. The Japanese played a good football but could not resist to Brazil’s talent.

Go watch England; they look like a bunch of pinball, bouncing all over the field without real skills and art.

Fitzpatrick has made a fool out of himself in the past, but this time he really outdid himself. How can he consider himself a real journalist and at the same time say that Brazil struggled against Japan. Did he even watch the game? I bet he watched the game with his stupid little notepad and was smiling from ear-to-ear when Japan scored that first goal. He was probably foaming at the mouth for Brazil to lose the game so he could post some half-assed rant about it here later. Fitzpatrick is a joke. No one should ever take this guy seriously.

Some gringos get way too c**ky just because they are based in brazil and have "long experience". WTF do you mean they are playing another bunch of "no-hopers" Ghana. No-one gives a f**k what you think . How dare you think that you have the right to criticise them on behalf of the "fans back home".

Fitzpatrick should refrain from commenting on football as he has shown that he has little or no understanding of the game with this laughable post.

Brazil's performance against Japan showed the strength in depth of the brazilian squad and any informed opinion would be that the football was of the highest quality.

In fact the quality demonstrated by reserve full backs Cicinho and Gilberto and reserve midfielder Juninho Pernambucano merely underlined that coach Parreira has plenty of options for later in the tournament.

Personally, I always find watching the selecao a great pleasure. If Fitzpatrick doesn't, I suggest he sticks to watching the "tartan army".

I don't know what is more pathetic, attempts at sports "journalism" if there is such a thing, or the millions of brain dead sports enthusiasts that pinne daily for games and game updates. It is a stupid game folks - get over it. It's not going to turn Brasil into some first world power of industry over night. It's a game for the uneducated, and frankly, the truly retarded.

You are the truly retarded, firstly because you you were not to give an opinion (thanks God), but mainly because you goofed up.

A sport that involves billions ( I said billions ) of people and raises billions ( I said billions ) of dollars cannot be a sport for (truly reatarded ).
The US has been endevouring to get football ( I prefer this name - soccer is an American freak word ) started, but it just sinks and sinks. They even have new idiom: soccer mom (haha) and say " soccer " instead of" footbal" like everybody else.( I mean 179 countries) They think that female football is football and their teams have very funny names likeragons, giants, angels, raptors , etc.etc. ( What a crack )
That´s real pathetic. The Football national team has a murky future and Arena is going to change his career and take up poney riding.
But, maybe you are right. I´ll check out exciting sports like golf, checkers,rope jumping.
American national team go ... home.
Frankly, I think you are a... oh, no. It is too hard on you.

A sport that involves billions ( I said billions ) of people and raises billions ( I said billions ) of dollars cannot be a sport for (truly reatarded ).

Another brain dead brasilian responding about America thinking I´m an Amerikan. The insecurities in your nation know no bounds.

Eat your beans, drink your pinga, cheer on your team - footchybolly is a silly sport, as are almost all sports. It´s all about tribalism, it´s all about being braindead and nationalistic, and frankly you´d do yourself a favor to open up a book sometime, instead of frothing at the mouth because some multi-million dollar fool kicks a ball into a net.

Now was that too hard for you to digest? Or do you need a score card?

One would think that it might dawn on Fitzpatrick, that the Brazilian Team has steadily played better with each passing game. Instead he chooses to whine about 3 wins, and 9 points in the first group.
Were 3 wins expected? Yes.
Against coatia, they didn't look great, at all. Yet, like a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, they got the result.
Against Australia, who played great against Brazil, they look much better, but still not great.
Once again, though, they got the result.
Against Japan, they came from behind and opened up the scoring faucet, even after a lackluster first half.
MY point>?
They are playing better and better each game, and even when they play poorly for their expectations they win, win, win,
Fitzpatrick- the football genius who know nothing.

As my mom once told me, when the dummy speaks, the smart one keeps quiet. (Quando o burro fala, o outro abaixa a orelha). But, for your own safety Fitzpatrick, lay off the Johnny Walker for a while...its making you look like an old scottish drunk

As my mom once told me, when the dummy speaks, the smart one keeps quiet. (Quando o burro fala, o outro abaixa a orelha).

And so you just had to add your two cents! HA HA HA HA.

He shoots, he SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting note here. The previous article was about Lula and the upcoming elections. It accurately painted a picture of your current s**t-for-brains president who is on the verge of setting Brazil back 30 years if he hasn't already. There are approximately 10 comments regarding that article and it has been up for 3 days I believe.

Here we have an article regarding soccer that has been up for all of a few hours and already it has more comments. Brazilians may want to re-assess where they want to go in the future because an outsider looking in can only assume that you are more interested in soccer than the health of your nation. YEAH TEAM!! GO BRAZIL. You are all quite sad!!

Brazil will likely win the World Cup and everyone will party in the streets and it will be great for a few days . . .
Then reality will set in and you will realize that BRAZIL has won again and the rest of the world doesn't REALLY give a s**t! They will mostly go back to their higher standard of living while you go back to burning buses and killing police officers. Just a little perspective for you nationalist sports fanatics.

Great enthusiasm for soccer - now if you could only show some enthusiasm for ending corruption, poverty and hunger . . .

Congrats! What a bang-on post.

A little note to the all high and mighty "Some Perspective maybe":
It's a game. a God Dman Game.
And no would take it over the health of a ntion, you moron.
Yes things are bad- but thank God there can be a reprieve, if only fleeting, to help the millions of Brazilians who have ZERO control over their politcally corrupt politicians and the gangsters that employ them.
You judgemental, snobby piece of trash. Who in the hell are you to talk down to Brasil- for cheering for another championship???
Who are you to questions their love for their country or their life-long quest for national peace and fair living?
You sir/madam, are way out of bounds.

Lots of opinions, and judging by the precision of everyone's english, few of you are Brazilians. Nor am I. So you're dogmatic left wing rants are more often than not ignorant agitprop neo-colonial drivel.
Trying to save the poor natives who you think need your help doesnt make you a saint, it's racist pandering.

Lets here some Brazilian opinions. Re the Cup, I've heard several Brazilian opinions and I've watched virtually every Cup game thus far.

So from my and my Brazilian associates' perspective, Brazil sucked the first few games, but were far closer to their potential with Japan. The journalist is wrong. The Japan game showed brilliance, and to see Ronaldo, Robinho and Juninho shine was a treat. True it's only futbol, but what other event on the planet can stop wars for a month and bring disparate people of a nation together in one common interest. A revolution? Im still laughing.

Futbol wont save save the world, but if the people of Ghana, Brazil or Togo or even England for that matter didnt have the passion of futbol, the banality of daily living would take its toll. We cant spend every second of the day being revolutionaries.

Brazil will step up. England sucked too the first round, abut they'll step up.

Futbol is an opportunity for the world to see the Ghana's and Togos, and maybe even look on a map and discover where Ghana and Togo are. I only wish the Sports Channels would do more individual profiles on the backgrounds of players, like the Olympics do. This is the opp for the world to see life in Ghana/Brazil/Saudi/Togo and the challenges and joys they experience. Sure, I would love to read World Bank reports or novels on the subject. But who has the time?

You are the No Hoper. If you knew your soccer history, you will discover that Nigeria defeated Brazil and Argentina and won the soccer gold at the Olympics, and also went into the quarter final at the World cup after demolishing Spain. Just what is the criteria you rely on for declaring Ghana another No hoper.I know your type, you are only happy when you criticize others. At least stick to constructive criticism.

"They think that female football is football and their teams have very funny names likeragons, giants, angels, raptors , etc.etc. ( What a crack )
That´s real pathetic. The Football national team has a murky future and Arena is going to change his career and take up poney riding.
But, maybe you are right. I´ll check out exciting sports like golf, checkers,rope jumping.
American national team go ... home.
Frankly, I think you are a... oh, no. It is too hard on you."

Yeah it's God "Dman" Game (moron). Hard to type when you're seething with rage isn't it bitch?? Tell the f**king IDIOT above that wrote the quoted material that it's just a game as well you "PANDERING" liberal apologists. It doesn't apply to some dips**t Brazilian who offends women's soccer as well as the Joke status of American soccer does it a*****es? I love s**theads like the last 2 posters who are tripping all over themselves in order to be the first to put their tongues up Brazilian asses!! Hilarious! Yeah Raptors, Dragons and Giants are such a funny names!! Drrrrrr. Now have your mommy wipe the spittle from your chin mmmkkkk retard?

Yes Futbol is all about learning about Togo - f**kING HILARIOUS MAN!!! No it's really about charging Euro 1000 for a ticket, getting drunk and seeing Ronaldinho on a billboard selling phones . .

Furthermore, the charge that if Brazilians showed more enthusiasm for the well-being of their country as they do for a bunch of womanizing footchebol players then things may soon change, is a fair one. It all starts with not voting a s**thead like Lula back into office and I guess it's just Brazil's bad luck that the World Cup is taking place in an election year - MY OH MY what are all the Brazilians to do - worry about soccer or national politics? - they certainly can't do both it appears!!

So you two can give one another the hypocritical (because deep down inside you know you are both hypocrites) reach around and get those tongues ready to lick some Brazilan crack. Enjoy Fun Boys!!

"You sir/madam, are way out of bounds" LOVE IT MAN!!!! What a bitch!!

Hey Yawn- you incoherent f**k.
Spelling bad because of time constraints and bad typing you condesending liberal f**k.
What the f**k was liberal about my 2 cents above?
Who's the bitch? All I read in your rant is Regurgitation from about 5 other articles and posts.
You bitter, little clintonite, weak, and probably gay a*****e-
You want to challenge me because I typed too fast and mis-spelled some words, defending my friends in brazil who like the World Cup? Are you kidding me, you raving lunatic?
Try stating an opinion or try putting together a cohesive, statement instead of babbling on about your nonsensical hatered for liberals and brazil and people who mis-spell.
You dumb f**king lefty, c**ksucking, tool.
you're a moron and an a*****e.
So madam- take that bitter dick out of your "seething" mouth and explain yourself- Or- stand down like the little punk ass bitch you are.
All I tried to do was write a quick positve little note about the World Cup, and a Jackal named Yawn has to spew all of his c**ksucking bitterness all of it.
You dumb f**k.

Yawn is a moron.
Here's a hint, Yawn:
Try to have a pint in your ramblings.
And I am sure that when "sign of a great team" was playing sports and chasing skirts, you were in typing class, perfecting you art, so that one day, just one day, you can s**t on someone in a web blog by downing their typing skills.
c**ksucker is right.

point

You judgemental, snobby piece of trash. Who in the hell are you to talk down to Brasil- for cheering for another championship???
Who are you to questions their love for their country or their life-long quest for national peace and fair living?
You sir/madam, are way out of bounds.

I AM GOD. WHO ARE YOU?

The author should stick to the subject he knows best about, or show some konwledge when writing about football.

Scotland didnt qualify by the way, but I am sure he would be overjoyed if they were playing with a fraction of the potential that Brasil showed in the game against Japan, horses for courses.

To the frustrated teen above, why dont you go and find another board to fill with your dribble with. Your surplus here.

Hello God!
I can't believe I found you here, on this awful blogging site!
Wow- you do work in mysterious ways!
anyway- now that I have found you, I need to ask for a few favors:
1. Please- can you never, never allow Scotland to qualify for the World cup, please?
2. Please allow Brasils talent to rain down on the naysayers and web bloggers who can and can't spell.
3. Please bring upon all these hateful, non- insightful bloggers only misery and pain. They all stink. Afterall, Nonsense breads nonsense.
Thank you,
your humble guest

"Hey Yawn- you incoherent f**k."
"Spelling bad because of time constraints and bad (poor here idiot) typing you condesending liberal f**k."

Now, that should read - "spelling poorly" you ignorant hillbilly. Ever heard of an adverb?? Try them out the next time you get a chance you coherent f**k you!! LOL!!!

"You bitter, little clintonite, weak, and probably gay a*****e-"

Ok you out of control, Bus**te, small animal torturer you!!

"You want to challenge me because I typed too fast (should be too quickly - adverbs retard - adverbs!!) and mis-spelled some words, defending my friends in brazil who like the World Cup? Are you kidding me, you raving lunatic?" (is that a statement or a question moron?)

Why on earth should I want to challenge you. Judging by your posts you're CHALLENGED enough each and every day. Yeah, I'm the lunatic. How many bodies do you have in your freezer by the way?

"Try stating an opinion or try putting together a cohesive, statement instead of babbling on about your nonsensical hatered for liberals and brazil and people who mis-spell.
You dumb f**king lefty, c**ksucking, tool."

"Spelling bad because of time constraints and bad typing you condesending liberal f**k"

I'm confused because for most rational, non-psychotic people on earth lefty MEANS liberal. So do you hate liberals too or are you defending them in that statement dips**t?

"Try stating an opinion or try putting together a cohesive, statement instead of babbling on about your nonsensical hatered for liberals and brazil and people who mis-spell."

Try stating an opinion . . That is exactly what I did there Mr. Dahmer!! Look over your entire post again. Too easy. Honestly, did you eat paint as a child??

"Hey Yawn- you incoherent f**k.
Spelling bad because of time constraints and bad typing you condesending liberal f**k.
What the f**k was liberal about my 2 cents above?
Who's the bitch? All I read in your rant is Regurgitation from about 5 other articles and posts.
You bitter, little clintonite, weak, and probably gay a*****e-
You want to challenge me because I typed too fast and mis-spelled some words, defending my friends in brazil who like the World Cup? Are you kidding me, you raving lunatic?
Try stating an opinion or try putting together a cohesive, statement instead of babbling on about your nonsensical hatered for liberals and brazil and people who mis-spell.
You dumb f**king lefty, c**ksucking, tool.
you're a moron and an a*****e.
So madam- take that bitter dick out of your "seething" mouth and explain yourself- Or- stand down like the little punk ass bitch you are.
All I tried to do was write a quick positve little note about the World Cup, and a Jackal named Yawn has to spew all of his c**ksucking bitterness all of it.
You dumb f**k."

Yes coherent and thoughtful indeed. Behold a true mental dwarf among men . . . LMAO!! Thanks for the post - you really made my day.

And I am sure that when "sign of a great team" was playing sports and chasing skirts, you were in typing class, perfecting you art, so that one day, just one day, you can s**t on someone in a web blog by downing their typing skills.

Oh I rather think "sign of a great team" was busy cutting girls up and torturing small animals instead of playing soccer or chasing skirts. I'm sure his mommy used to dress him in skirts though! LOL!! Is that why you're so f**ked in the head today YOU Clintonite a*****e you?? LMAO!!!!

You on the other hand were probably just busy playing soccer and doing little else when your dumb ass should have been in school. Now you have no job, no life and hang all your hopes on a bunch of guys you jerk off to every night. "Oh god Ronaldo - the way you scored twice in that match - so hot!! LOL!!

"If Brazilians showed more enthusiasm for the well-being of their country. . ". C'mon, dude. If ANY country showed more enthusiasm for country and humanity than sports, we'd be somewhere. That's a dreamworld though.

Note to all self-appointed defenders of the poor disenfranchised living on the streets. Since you seem to spend a lot of time out there volunteering your time and working with poor people, go ask these folks if they prefer to have soccer or not to have soccer. And some Brazilian kids if it matters to them that they're team is one of the greatest in the world.

Every soccer star who rises from poverty gives hope to those poor kids who have little else to hope for. It might be the opiate of the masses, but so what, everything else is too. See Hip-Hop.

"That's a dreamworld though."

And that's a f**king cop-out!!

"And some Brazilian kids if it matters to them that they're team is one of the greatest in the world."

Nice, bleeding heart garbage really. At the end of the day does it put food in a child's belly? NO. Does it end corruption? - NO
Does it actually add to the standing of the country in REAL terms? - NO

Amazing how many Brazilians can afford to fly to Germany, stay for 2-3 weeks, spend thousands of Euros on tickets, food and lodging but can't do a f**king thing to take care of their own back home. Maybe that is the point there Hip-Hop!!

Why is everything so black and white with everyone? No one is saying to starve these “poor little Brasilans” of their national game (pretty condescending of you). The jest seems to be that there is a lapse in mentality about priorities. I don’t know of any other country that shuts banks and local bus routes just because their national team steps onto the camp. Most Brasilians can cite every player’s name, and babble on for hours about their stats, strengths and weaknesses, yet they couldn’t tell you the name of their local vereador even if he was standing in front them. Does this not strike you as a wee tad misguided?

Enjoy the games, have fun with the world cup, but when it’s over don’t turn your brains off until the next championships. There is more to life, and more pressing national and regional matters, than footchybolly.

It’s pretty freaking tribal to cry and cuddle the Brazilian flag after living in misery, being robbed by governments and living in fear of becoming the next homicide statistic, just because Ronaldo heads one into the goal.

"I don’t know of any other country that shuts banks and local bus routes just because their national team steps onto the camp."

More to the point - they are proud of this!

When are you going to give up this story about insecurity. Did you learn this word in your class and now you repeat it ad nauseam?
Find out why you use it so much. Maybe Freud will help you.
I have an idea: Write down the word many times. You will get fed up of it and will get rid from your neurosis. Like this:

INSECURITY, INSECURITY, INSECURITY, ..............

Go, do it. Good luck. I don´t think you are a lost case yet.

Aha. I knew you were going to slip up some time.
Now say: amerrrika.
Then, you say " "uber "
Finally, say " alles ".

OK, now you are ready to say:

amerrica uber alles.

Don´t forget your " mein kampf"

"soccer is an American freak word"

Hmm, doesn't it have its origin in England?

"The word soccer is a colloquial abbreviation of association (from assoc.) and first appeared in the 1880s. The word is sometimes credited to Charles Wreford Brown, an Oxford University student said to have been fond of shortened forms such as brekkers for breakfast and rugger for rugby football. In the late 19th century the word soccer tended to be used only at public schools (known as private schools in the United States); most people knew the game simply as football. Today the term association football is rarely used, although some clubs still include Association Football Club (AFC) in their name. "Soccer" is used by the largest number of native English speakers, although "football" is perhaps the most widely used term.The game is sometimes also known colloquially as footy and footer in some places such as the UK."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(soccer)_names

Hey, folks. the NGC HAS A SPECIAL ON A PENITENTIARY IN CALIFORNIA. It is a must. You can see what a wonderful life two million amerricans have .
Rape inside the gates go up to forty percent.
There are riots and they kill themselves with knives they manufactured themselves . It is hell on earth. They have diverse gangs . These gangs clash from times to times. Each guy has to keeps his eyes open 24 hours a day.

It is there to be seen. Don´forget. .Oh, no. They don´t play football. They play
basketball. Forget about football.

Isn't there some English punk song that goes "Soccer, soccer, soccer-soccer-soccer-soccer, soccer!"?

What the hell do I know. It's futebol!

Oh, I do know that Fitzpatrick is a boob.

"When are you going to give up this story about insecurity. Did you learn this word in your class and now you repeat it ad nauseam?"

Hey s**thead? Who wrote "insecurity" here besides you? You're a clever one aren't you. Now go back and try harder. Really put some thought into it ok?

What amazes me the most is the amount of crap written by americans with way too much spare time. So you want to tell us what the priorities should be? What about your life? Aren't you spending too much time in here?

What about your country? Waging wars over oil, torturing prisoners, killing old people and children in Iraq (and in a lot of other places as well), corruption, leaving blacks to die in some natural catastrophe, is that all ok to you?

There's too much s**t in this world, and where you live too, why don't you "fight for fixing it" instead of trying to piss other people off on the internet?

The world would be a better place without people like you, that talk too much and act too little.

BRAZIL CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WINNING TEAM!!!!!!

You are a Scotish version of Larry Rohter NYT editor based in Rio,is it that difficult to an Anglo show its passion/love for Brazil? I hope does not take too long otherwise you were living in the cosmopolitan Glasgow

Do some studying up on football, and then write about it you c**ky jackass.

"I'm sure I was not the only spectator hoping to see Japan score another goal or two just to show that Brazil's victory was nothing to celebrate."

I guess you've taken that Brazilian flag down finally, leaving the Scottish one solo. Poseur.

Larry Rohter's a tool, but Fizpatrick couldn't hold his jockstrap.

What amazes me the most is the amount of crap written by americans with way too much spare time. So you want to tell us what the priorities should be? What about your life? Aren't you spending too much time in here?

What about your country? Waging wars over oil, torturing prisoners, killing old people and children in Iraq (and in a lot of other places as well), corruption, leaving blacks to die in some natural catastrophe, is that all ok to you?

There's too much s**t in this world, and where you live too, why don't you "fight for fixing it" instead of trying to piss other people off on the internet?

The world would be a better place without people like you, that talk too much and act too little.

Ok there let's hear what you do! What are the actions you take. I love to call people like you out as well. WTF are you doing? Let's see if we get a response - chirp,chirp,chirp . . . . .

Brazil: um pais de tolos.

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"corruption, leaving blacks to die in some natural catastrophe"

Leaving blacks to die in a NATURAL catastrophe....ROTFLMAO!

It wasn't like the hurricane was f**king planned!

And what f**king idiot would live in a place 12 feet below sea level?

Leave it to the americans to build a city 12 feet below sea level and fill it with "niggas".

"Eat your beans, drink your pinga, cheer on your team - footchybolly is a silly sport, as are almost all sports. It´s all about tribalism, it´s all about being braindead and nationalistic, and frankly you´d do yourself a favor to open up a book sometime, instead of frothing at the mouth because some multi-million dollar fool kicks a ball into a net. "


wow...someone got picked on in their high school locker room... save your misdirected anger it doesnt belong on a website about brazil, you'll obviously never understand anything about this country...

real talk

Larry Rohter is not a fool. Beware of him. I would not trust him even if he were my father.

Why do all people root for their teams by saying the name of the country?
Argentina, Argentina... Italy, Italy...Portugal, Portugal, Spain, Spain...Japan, Japan...

Now , guess how the americans do it.

HAHA --- They say: OOO, SS, AAA.., OOO, SS, AAA. ---


Isn´t that funny? Does it have a secret meaning? Is it superstition.

Just imagine the Germans hollering : FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY...repeat, repeat.

How about the Aussies? They could holler: COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA, COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA...repeat - Isn´t that cute?

Don´t you think this is ...let´s say...more civilized?..

If you come from Congo,never holler CONGO, CONGO, but DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, -- You can repeat as many times you please. It is classy.

So, it seems, all peoples should copy the OOO, SS, AAA in all aspects.

For instance: When you sponsor a tournament, any sort of tournament, call it more properly -- World Series. It is fancier.Never mind it just compreheends three or four small islands from Central America.Don´t you sometimes think some team from Mars or from Alpha-Centauro will participate? Have you ever seen a football player from these far away places?


Don´t , also, say " football".
Saying " Soccer" is much .better .

-- OOO, SS, AAA , go home!!!
You´re out. :

Larry Rotten is not in Rio any longer. (Thanks God )

s**t... Is this your expectation?

For how long has the OOO SS AAA trying to become a champion at the world cup?

If you give a monkey a typewriter it will write a best-selling novel before the OOO SS AAA team wins three games in a row.

How poor your football is!!!

A fifth class team it is.
Now, go home. The rest of the world doesn´t give a s**t for the OOO SS AAA team.

Don´t , also, say " football".
Saying " Soccer" is much .better .

-- OOO, SS, AAA , go home!!!
You´re out. :

When the Olympics are going on in China I want you to remember your footchebal because it's the one thing you've got that is worth a s**t!! We'll see who is "going home" in 2008 won't we? 4th largest country in the world and you always finish near the bottom so reserve your f**king arrogance little prick!!

How poor Brazil is at everything else. Thankfully you have soccer so you don't have to be the laughing stock of the whole world!!

"Larry Rohter is not a fool."

No, I said he's a TOOL.

"OOO, SS, AAA"

You wouldn't criticize us if we cheered for "America"? Sure you would. Admit it.

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"For instance: When you sponsor a tournament, any sort of tournament, call it more properly -- World Series."

You've shown your ignorance on this topic!

It's called the World Series because it is the world championship of baseball. It is the BEST baseball players on the planet.

Although baseball is an american invented sport, like basketball, and like american fooball, Major League baseball players come from all over the world.

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"The Dominican Republic had the most non-U.S. players with 85, followed by Venezuela (43), Puerto Rico (33), Canada and Mexico (14 apiece), Japan (nine), Cuba (six), South Korea (five), Panama (four), Taiwan (three), Australia and Colombia (two each) and Aruba, Curacao and Nicaragua (one apiece)."


See you see misinformed one, Major League Baseball in this respect is a lot like the NBA....it is the BEST baseball players in the world participating in the same league. Much like the NBA which has the best basketball players from the entire world.

A microcosm of the macrocosm.

"Then reality will set in and you will realize that BRAZIL has won again and the rest of the world doesn't REALLY give a s**t! They will mostly go back to their higher standard of living while you go back to burning buses and killing police officers. Just a little perspective for you nationalist sports fanatics."

The poverty of which you speak was created by a dictatorship.

These "police officers" were trained by americans to kill! kill! kill! anyone who opposed the horrible "capitalism" that they masterminded here.

So then you petty f**ks want to come here and complain about the people trying to escape said reality?

At least brazilians didn't kill 3000 of their own, and while the rest get obssessed by rigged singing competitions on national television.

Get a grip.

Then get a brain.

At least brazilians didn't kill 3000 of their own, and while the rest get obssessed by rigged singing competitions on national television.

NO - YOU KILL FAR FAR MORE OF YOUR OWN AND I SEE IT ON GLOBO EVERY NIGHT!!!! Now you shiheads are getting ready to re-elect Lula - Good 4 U.
An EU Forum Member

"NO - YOU KILL FAR FAR MORE OF YOUR OWN AND I SEE IT ON GLOBO EVERY NIGHT!!!! Now you shiheads are getting ready to re-elect Lula - Good 4 U.
An EU Forum Member"

Lula doesn't hide the dirty shennigans like the old-school murderous corrupts did.

And the 3000 of their own they killed so that they could kill many many others who sat on oil that did not belong to them.

Italy and England joined them.

The same cannot be said for Brazil.

So there!

Those who are either "disappointed" or offer their "criticizm" of the Brazilian national team make me laugh. The team is clearly a great team -- recognized as the best of the best. Will the team win every game it plays? Will the team win the World Cup? Who knows? Who cares? Absolutely anything can happen. There are other excellent teams who have beaten them in the past. So the games should be great! Enjoy the games. Cheer for your team . . . and then for "everyone's second team"! Viva Brasil!

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"These "police officers" were trained by americans to kill! kill! kill! anyone who opposed the horrible "capitalism" that they masterminded here."

You need to get one thing straight. The U.S. did not plan the coup here in brazil, brazilian generals did, and they started planning it as early as 1958. The U.S. gov't. did "support" the coup and did have CIA on the ground, as well as a battle ship off the southern coast of brazil....but that was it. The coup was orchestrated and carried out by BRAZILIANS!

Now, are you going to blame the corruption that exists TODAY, and the "death squad" style assassinations on the United States???

Yep, add yet another moronic brazilian or brazil lover that refuses to take responsibility for ANYTHING.

Maluf stealing 450 million, that was the U.S.?

Collar stealing 250 million, that was the U.S.?

The TRT scandal a couple years back, hundreds of millions, that was the U.S.?

Albano Franco stealing 200 million from the sale of the state owned power company, that was the U.S.?

Police in sao paulo and rio killing street children by the thousands every year, that is the U.S.?

One of the lowest minimum wages on the planet that spurns many of the crimes committed in this country, that is the U.S.?

If the U.S. has that much control over brazil....then I guess brazil is just plain and simply f**ked eh?

Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee? Brazilians have been f**king brazilians for decades now....it's about time you accept that so you can look for solutions instead of pointing your finger.

When you point your finger you have 3 pointing back at you!

"The U.S. gov't. did "support" the coup and did have CIA on the ground, as well as a battle ship off the southern coast of brazil....but that was it."

That was not "it". Don't lie. The american ambassador was beside the installed pawn Castelo Branco.

And much longer still they were directing the direction of the country.

You can talk as much as you want without backing anything up like you just did. That does not change the facts, does it?

"In 1970, a US Congress study group visited Brazil. It gave this summary of statements by American military advisers there:
" Rather than dwell on the authoritarian aspects of the regime, they emphasize assertions by the Brazilian armed forces that they believe in, and support, representative democracy as an ideal and would return government to civilian control if this could be done without sacrifice to security and development. This withdrawal from the political arena is not seen as occurring in the near future. For that reason they emphasize the continued importance of the military assistance training program as a means of exerting U.S. influence and retaining the current pro-U.S. attitude of the Brazilian armed forces. Possible disadvantages to U.S. interests in being so closely identified with an authoritarian regime are not seen as particularly important. ""

"Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee? Brazilians have been f**king brazilians for decades now....it's about time you accept that so you can look for solutions instead of pointing your finger.

When you point your finger you have 3 pointing back at you! "

It's easy to say to others not to "point any fingers".

Steve Biko had something to say to dishonest opressive people like you:

"Not only are whites kicking us; they are telling us how to react to being kicked."

Americans are the bullies of the world.

All for what? So that a few rich people can get richer.

Brazilians are not better either. But you cannot deny the "terrible forces" at play here - and everywhere.

Every Brazilian who defines himself by the performance of their national soccer team - raise your hand . . . . Yep - thought so!
IDIOTS!!

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The role of the United States
The role of the United States in these events was complex and at times contradictory. An anti-Goulart press campaign was conducted throughout 1963, and in 1964 the Johnson administration gave moral support to the campaign. Ambassador Lincoln Gordon later admitted that the embassy had given money to anti-Goulart candidates in the 1962 municipal elections and had encouraged the plotters; that many extra United States intelligence personnel were operating in Brazil; and that four United States Navy oil tankers and the carrier Forrestal, in an operation code-named Brother Sam, had stood off the coast in case of need during the 1964 coup. Washington immediately recognized the new government in 1964 and hailed the coup d'état as one of the "democratic forces" whioch had allegedly staved off the hand of international communism. In retrospect, it appears that the only foreign hand involved was Washington's, although the United States was not the principal actor in these events. [citation needed] Indeed, THE HARD-LINERS IN THE BRAZILIAN MILITARY PRESSURED COSTA E SILVA INTO PROMULGATING THE FIFTH INSTITUTIONAL ACT ON DECEMBER 13TH, 1968.

This act gave the president dictatorial powers, dissolved Congress and state legislatures, suspended the constitution, and imposed censorship.





So, you see, I, and most any other person, or american, with knowledge of the situation won't deny the U.S. had their hand in the coup....BUT it was not designed and FORCED upon brazil!!!

This was done by BRAZILIAN MILITARY HARDLINERS!!!

Now, I'll bet you'll even deny that!

I'm very accustomed to it though, I've been in brazil for years, I know how hard it is for you people to accept responsibility, and especially for mistakes, errors, or things that are perceived as being negative.

You go right along and keep thinking that brazils military rule was completely masterminded and carried out by the U.S. gov't....any fool knows better.

The U.S. didn't even have military troops on the ground!! We had CIA agents, but NO troops!!

So, how did we FORCE these brazilian military generals to overthrow the president??

The "key" word being "force".

"So, you see, I, and most any other person, or american, with knowledge of the situation won't deny the U.S. had their hand in the coup....BUT it was not designed and FORCED upon brazil!!! "

Really?

Where are you getting your 'facts'??

When is NO a NO?

"In early 1961, shortly after Quadros took office, he was visited by Adolf Berle, Jr., President Kennedy's adviser on Latin American affairs and formerly ambassador to Brazil. Berle had come as Kennedy's special envoy to solicit Quadros's backing for the impending Bay of Pigs invasion. Ambassador Cabot was present and some years later described the meeting to author Peter Bell. Bell has written:
Ambassador Cabot remembers a "stormy conversation" in which Berle stated the United States had $300 million in reserve for Brazil and in effect "offered it as a bribe" for Brazilian cooperation ... Quadros became "visibly irritated" after Berle refused to heed his THIRD "no". No Brazilian official was at the airport the next day to see the envoy off."

I guess NEVER to amercans.

Not surprisingly, Quadros resigned.

Maybe the bribe was too little for him. There are a lot of corrupt people in the world. Principally in the military. That's not news. I am not going to deny it.

But you are intent on denying who really masterminded the "democracy" in Brazil aren't you?

Keep up with your lies. The world is full of them.

You are only one more sorry liar.

who was the coup carried out by? Americans or brazilians?

Were the brazilian military generals FORCED to play along with american wishes??

How come 2-3 years after the military gov't. took over that they began taking actions that were CONTRARY to the U.S.'s wishes??

And in the mid to late 70's the U.S. gov't. distanced itself from the brazilian military regime.

Wonder why that was since obviously, according to you, the U.S. was pulling all the strings, and in complete control.

Wake up bud! Put responsibility where it's due!

As I said, yet another, "não foi eu". Brazil should make that it's national slogan!

"who was the coup carried out by? Americans or brazilians? "

Everybody with half a brain knows that it was the brazilians with the financial and mentoring backing of americans.

Don't be so pedantic. Or no pretzel for you!


"How come 2-3 years after the military gov't. took over that they began taking actions that were CONTRARY to the U.S.'s wishes?? "

Really? Where do you get your "facts"?

Tell us since you post nothing but your vacuous opinions here so we can look for it ourselves..

Perhaps this is what you mean by "the U.S. gov't. distanced itself from the brazilian military regime"?

"Brazil's rulers themselves have had to assume a "get-tough" attitude toward the U.S. in the wake of State Department reports on human rights violations. In order to gain credibility amongst their local backers, the Brazilians showed how badly they were miffed: by canceling in March, 1977 a 25-year-old military assistance treaty between Washington and Brasilia. At the same time, Brazil turned down a $50 million loan credit for the purchase of military supplies because of human rights demands attached to it by the U.S. Congress.86 In September, 1977, the Brazilian Foreign Ministry announced the termination of a Brazilian-American military commission and a naval commission established in 1942 to coordinate World War II efforts. Also canceled were a 1967 pact governing the use of armaments imported from the U.S. and a 1952 agreement for U.S. participation in aerial mapping of Brazil.87 Of the March rejection, chief of staff General Moacir Barcelos Potyguara stated that the decision would cause no problems in Brazil's military preparedness.88

Unfortunately, this cavalier attitude will not effect the long-term military relations between the two countries. The March, 1977 announcement was to take place one year later. No mention was made of rejecting that which is already in the pipeline to Brazil. At the least, Brazil should benefit for years to come from its friendship with the U.S. Furthermore, U.S. opposition to Brazil's planned purchase of West German nuclear reprocessing technology seems to have subsided. In a recent visit to Brazil, Vice President Mondale backed away from criticizing the country's plans to build a uranium reprocessing plant capable of producing weapons-grade plutonium.89

As for Brazil's new president, Joao Baptista Figueiredo, and what lies in store for the Brazilian people, a few words must be said. For the unsuspecting, last month's appointment of Figueiredo as president appeared to usher in a new era of liberalization for that country's political situation. Pledging to continue the reforms (which included the closing of Congress for four months in 1977) initiated by his predecessor, Ernesto Geisel, Figueiredo declared that it would be his "unswerving purpose" to make Brazil a democracy. He guaranteed freedom of expression for the "many segments of Brazilian public opinion."90 But for those who have even the slightest familiarity with the man who is Brazil's fifth military head of state since the armed forces carried out a CIA-backed coup in 1964, Joao Baptista Figueiredo is to be watched closely.

His background speaks to the intimate role the CIA has played in making Brazil one of the most repressive and, not surprisingly, one of the "safest" investment climates in Latin America. After the '64 coup, the CIA helped Brazil set up its first national intelligence service, the SNI. Figueiredo became the director of its Rio office. Later he was named head of the military police in Sao Paulo, after which he became then-President Emilio Medici's chief of staff. Before coming to Brasilia in 1974 to direct the SNI, Figueiredo commanded the Third Army in Porto Alegre. Given the documented penetration and usurpation of the SNI and the police forces by the CIA, can there remain any doubt that with Figueiredo's ascendancy to the executive office, Langley truly has their "man in Brazil"? "

Like they "distance" themselves from all the murderous dictatorships that they help install in the first place, right!

I guess when it gets to rough, they feel pitty for us - the poor suckers.

On the record you are so nice, aren't you?

Or are you going to say that "não fomos nós!! Freedom and democracy is on the march!! God bless america!!"

The above text was written whe Figueredo was the president.

That was the conclusion.

Here is the start, more or less, of the long analisis:

"In the fall of 1961, just as Joao Goulart was assuming the presidency, the United States began to make contact with his right-wing opposition. At the same time, the CIA began a multifaceted penetration of Brazilian society designed to influence that country's internal politics. Lincoln Gordon, U.S. ambassador to Brazil, was appointed the same day that Goulart's predecessor, Janio Quadros resigned. Soon after his arrival in October, Gordon met with a right-wing admiral named Silvio Heck. Heck informed Gordon of a poll of the armed services which revealed that over two-thirds of the enlisted men opposed Goulart. Heck also hoped that when it came time to oust Goulart "the U.S would take an understanding view."18 Although Gordon later determined that Heck's figures were exaggerated, he never once warned Goulart or his advisers of this conspiracy.

The CIA, for its part, took more than a passive interest in helping right-wing military forces come to power in Brazil. The overthrow of Goulart and the destruction of democracy in Brazil was effected through the manipulation of diverse social groups. Police, the military, political parties, labor unions, student federations and housewives associations were all exploited in the interest of stirring up opposition to Goulart. Yet, while Washington's original intent may have been to replace Goulart with the strongman General Castello Branco, the guaranty of the coup's longterm success demanded an increase in U.S. material and training for the Brazilian security forces which continues to this day."

So save yourself the empty discourse. No body will buy it.

Or try to BACK IT UP with some facts. So that you might persuade some right-wing lying corrupt people.

Now I'm using YOUR quotes.

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"Everybody with half a brain knows that it was the BRAZILIAINS with the FINANCIAL and MENTORING backing of americans."

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"Soon after his arrival in October, Gordon met with a right-wing admiral named SILVIO HECK. Heck informed Gordon of a poll of the armed services which revealed that over two-thirds of the enlisted men opposed Goulart. Heck ALSO HOPED THAT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO OUST GOULART "THE U.S. WOULD TAKE AN UNDERSTANDING VIEW"!!!!


So, you see, as I stated, these were BRAZILIAN military hardliners plans all along. MANY military generals have stated that this coup began to be planned in the 1950's!

During the cold war this type of thing happened all over the world. With the U.S. attempting to influence gov'ts. and install pro-american regimes and gov'ts. and Russia trying to do the same.

The U.S. did not FORCE these decisions on ANYONE. Brazilian military personnel decided this on their own.

Live with it!

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"The role of the United States in these events was complex and at times contradictory. An anti-Goulart press campaign was conducted throughout 1963, and in 1964 the Johnson administration gave moral support to the campaign. Ambassador Lincoln Gordon later admitted that the embassy had given money to anti-Goulart candidates in the 1962 municipal elections and had encouraged the plotters; that many extra United States military and intelligence personnel were operating in Brazil; and that four United States Navy oil tankers and the carrier Forrestal , in an operation code-named Brother Sam, had stood off the coast in case of need during the 1964 coup. Washington immediately recognized the new government in 1964 and joined the chorus chanting that the coup d'état of the "democratic forces" had staved off the hand of international communism. In retrospect, it appears that the only foreign hand involved was Washington's, ALTHOUGH THE UNITED STATES WAS NOT THE PRINCIPLE ACTOR IN THESE EVENTS!

Indeed, the HARD-LINERS IN THE BRAZILIAN MILITARY pressured Costa e Silva into promulgating the Fifth Institutional Act on December 13, 1968. This act gave the president dictatorial powers, dissolved Congress and state legislatures, suspended the constitution, and imposed censorship.

In October 1969, when President Costa e Silva died unexpectedly, the democratic mask fell off as the officer corps of the three services consulted among themselves to pick General Garrastazú Médici for the presidency. Costa e Silva and Médici represented the hard-line, antipolitics segment of the military, which seemingly was content to hold authority as long as necessary to turn Brazil into a great power. The Médici government illustrated how it was possible to remain in power without popular support, without a political party, and without a well-defined program. It was the era of terrorist actions in the cities, replete with kidnappings of diplomats, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES AMBASSADOR, and an extensive antiguerrilla campaign in northern Goiás. The repressive apparatus expanded into various agencies, which spied on political opponents and engaged in dirty tricks, torture, and "disappearings" (see The Military Role in the Intelligence Services, ch. 5). Those operations caused an open break between the government and the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church for the first time in Brazilian history. They also PRODUCED A DETORIATION IN RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES, whose leaders had expected the Castelo Branco vision of the revolution to win out."


"Brazil shifted its foreign policy to meet its economic needs. "Responsible pragmatism" REPLACED STRICT ALIGNMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES and a worldview based on ideological frontiers and blocs of nations. Because Brazil was 80 percent dependent on imported oil, Geisel SHIFTED THE COUNTRY FROM A PRO-ISRAEL STANCE to closer ties with oil-rich Saudi Arabia and Iraq. His government also recognized China, Angola, and Mozambique and moved closer to Spanish America, Europe, and Japan. The 1975 agreement with the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) to build nuclear reactors PRODUCED CONFRONTATION WITH THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION, which was ALSO SCOLDING THE GEISEL GOVERNMENT FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES THAT IS WAS FIGHTING TO STOP. Frustrated with what he saw as United States highhandedness and lack of understanding, Geisel RENOUNCED THE MILITARY ALLIANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES in April 1977."




OK, now, my point is, as it always has been to people like you, that attempt and put NO RESPONSIBILITY on brazilians, the brazilian military, etc. The U.S. DID play a role in the coup, BUT IT WAS NOT ORCHESTRATED NOR CARRIED OUT BY THE UNITED STATES!

It was SUPPORTED by the United States.

But with people such as yourself, as I previously said, "não foi eu", it's never you, it's NEVER brazils fault...no matter what happens, "who can we blame", "who can we point our fingers at?"

And anyone with a half a brain surely knows that WITHOUT american troops on the ground there certainly has to be participation by a faction or group within said country.

Even when the U.S. HAS troops on the ground, they're allied with groups and factions within said country.

But in the case of brazil, the responsibility of the coup that took place lies MUCH MORE so with Brazilian generals themselves, than with the United States.

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" It was the era of terrorist actions in the cities, replete with kidnappings of diplomats, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES AMBASSADOR...."

And if the U.S. was "pulling all the strings", why in the world would we kidnap our OWN ambassador?


LOL.

"And if the U.S. was "pulling all the strings", why in the world would we kidnap our OWN ambassador?


LOL."

Hey, ignorant fool, that was the resistence who did that.

And they were sent to jail then exiled.

The ambassador himself praised their "niceness". The kidnapper, Fernando Gabeira, now was ELECTED to the Congress as a Federal Deputy.

A "fag" to use the kind of pathetic discourse that you people use. (Forgetting that the "powerful" "conservative" "christian" in your own country loves a good strap-on using dominatrix...)

so do you STILL deny brazilian involvement?

That's the question, because up until now, according to you, there wasn't any....lol.

YOUR own quote:

"Heck ALSO HOPED THAT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO OUST GOULART "THE U.S. WOULD TAKE AN UNDERSTANDING VIEW"!!!! "

So, who's idea was this? What group was the true "engine" behind the coup?

Why would HECK HOPE the U.S. would take an "understanding" view?

"OK, now, my point is, as it always has been to people like you, that attempt and put NO RESPONSIBILITY on brazilians, the brazilian military, etc. The U.S. DID play a role in the coup, BUT IT WAS NOT ORCHESTRATED NOR CARRIED OUT BY THE UNI