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If You Are Magically Swept Away in Brazil You Got Maracatu Fever PDF Print E-mail
2008 - March 2008
Written by David Nicholas Adair   
Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:35

A bar in the Rio's Lapa neighborhood It is difficult to explain the effect of maracatu on the psyche, when one is residing in that particular hotbed of hedonism, carnal infestation and debauchery that is the bohemian clamor of Lapa, in the heart of Rio de Janeiro. Maracatu was, once every week, a very necessary catharsis. Maracatu was redemption.

In ways it felt like the entire globe was being simultaneously summoned, sated, and held to account finally by nothing more than a kaleidoscopic assemblage of percussionists, dancers, singers - and, preternaturally, the reveling, rag-tag court that pursued them.

Around 10 pm on Friday nights, this intoxicating, resounding and reverberating ensemble would assume title to the cobblestone streets, culling us each from our domiciles, watering holes, and open air eateries. Invariably we would drop what we were doing, leaving food on the table, inebriates unmolested, and money unwagered, to witness the spinning, flailing and pounding brouhaha that would roll through the streets like a pagan Christmas parade.

It was an inclusive, rejuvenating and orchestrated wildness, meant originally to bind and maintain a community of black slaves in colonial Brazil. In typical Rio fashion, however, the maracatu of today has rebounded with a reflected image, a rectifying pulse, and vital glare back into the face of world, demanding through its insistent beats, steps, and refrains that the world instead maintain itself in a just, orderly, and accountable manner.

In that spot where we stood, overtaking the streets, snarling and blocking the marveling traffic, maracatu pushed the world forward. If there had ever been such a thing as a Pied Piper, we, a variegated assemblage of varmints, miscreants and ignoble personages, most definitively fell in all around it. Cleansed of our demoralization, transformed into demigods and running through with cheap beer we allowed ourselves to be escorted home.

The nascence of Maracatu emanates from the Northeast of Brazil, from some time generally in the mid-17th century. Its origins, however, are of course traced back to Africa, and to the narcotic blend of Catholicism, slavery, and the ritualistic Afro-Brazilian religious practices known as Candomblé.

Maracatu is and remains exclusively a Brazilian concoction; though similar forms can be found in other Atlantic Coast South American nations like Uruguay and Argentina - where performances fall generally under the heading of Candomblé. Reverberating with increasingly resonance, maracatu is assuming its role in the construction of the Brazilian consciousness, just as have samba, bossa nova and Carnaval.

It is safe to say that such things could not be possible outside of a place like Brazil. But, much like all things infectiously Brazilian (like the widespread popularity of capoeira culture, for example), maracatu is finding its fertile soil, and, having made many world tours, its seed too is being gradually and dynamically scattered abroad.

It did not help that I had temporarily fallen for one of its dancers. Falling in love in Brazil is one of the easiest things to do. You really don't have to overcome much, just have your eyes and ears open, for the most part. She spun in the front; she was not even Brazilian.

But as much as Brazil influences, it even more so absorbs influences, and the fact that this incorporated dançarina was from another country only enriched the attraction. Therefore, I was hooked, and committed. I too fell in and became absorbed as a kind of integral asset to Rio maracatu: its unofficial biographer, photographer, and raconteur, for a short time.

It was obvious what it meant to me, as a much desired reprieve from the harsher musical bombardments of hip-hop and baile funk, when I found myself bolting from a late shower one Friday evening in nothing but a damp towel to the second-story balcony of our building.....

Yes, there I was, semi-nude before God and the world, bedecked in my terry cloth, to cheer on and celebrate with the rest of the congregated hoards our beloved maracatu. And the crowds cheered and jeered me in return.... I did not take it off. Nor did I put it away, either!

Allow me to describe it in this way: First come the dancers. Well, actually, first comes the distant boom of drumbeats. One cannot tell if they are miles away or if next door. But telltale thunderclaps and rumbles announce their presence, and they are heard from a great distance.

Next you gather yourself, walking swiftly, jogging, or running, depending on your predilections, and priming yourself with a fresh beer, or what have you, to seek out the source, to witness and perhaps join the melee. Then you see dancers, spinning, stepping and twirling, coordinated in garb and in movement, spearheading the promenade like a legion of ship's figureheads.

Rio maracatu is perhaps a dressed-down version of the more ornate and traditional maracatus from the Northeast, but I cannot see how it could be less attractive. An assemblage of young, magnificent and forthright hippies it seems, all fit and slender and decorous, glide and parade and fan the night air in colorful skirts, which, once spun, erupt into a floral spectacle as they levitate into fantastic, dizzying and multi-colored palettes, dozens in unison.

A feast for the eyes as they twirl, undulate and rejoinder to the beat and the calls of the ever-pressing company of percussionists to the rear. There seems every kind of drum here; leading the pack are genial ladies, singing and shaking their abês and mineiros, two varieties of seed shakers.

Then comes the banging of the tarol and caixa-de-guerra, two types of snare drums, providing pop and motivation. The backbone of the set, the source of deep bass and boom, the alfaia drummers urge the march forward, taking fully-extended and generally sweaty swings at their large, wooden drums.

Then, yes, to add heavily to the native effect, there are the pepperings of gonguê players, clanging their metal cowbells high above the din, signaling in time and in step with the urging procession like back-country minstrels.

The overall effect, once devoid of your misgivings and given over to its particular voodoo, is like that of a unifying, prolonged, and clamorous climax, enough to subdue and cajole any mass of dark slaves. This makes for good mania; beer induced fellowship abounds, and the otherwise disparate hoard unites as one community, focused, enthusiastic and with good will towards all.

All of this flows like a swollen river, accumulating and sweeping up crowds of onlookers like debris and everything which is not otherwise tied down. We all follow and dance, refueling the furor and celebration from intrepid beer vendors, all the while still dancing, sweating, beaming and hooting.

Once a traveling friend asked me, amid the din, what they were all singing about, as the chants and calls were not understood to him (nor I) in Portuguese. I responded, authoritatively of course, that they were the "Summoning of the Community" and "Calls for Social Justice" or some such thing.

Overhearing my response, a native Carioca standing close by interrupted to say that that was correct! Her daughter danced for the troupe, and she proceeded to tell me all about it! For the sake of diplomacy and much to my relief, I had extrapolated correctly....

From out of Recife in the Northeast come the much touted nações, or maracatu nations, the infamous names: Estrela Brilhante, Leão Coroado, Porto Rico, and the eldest, Elefante, with a continuous line of performances dating all the way back to the year 1800.

Rio maracatu's inception seems the wild and spirited grandchild of these elder greats, being spawned only recently in the year 1997, with it's direct lineage from the band's leader and founder, Francisco "Chicote", descending from the northeastern state of Pernambuco.

Here there are gringos, elders, and children who both practice and play with the group. Reflecting Rio itself, so much is absorbed into one magnificent and gorgeous bohemian race. Everyone is invited. I was invited. Deferentially, I declined direct involvement, and opted to remain on the outskirts, merely cataloguing, for now. How I would have loved to be transformed into one of those ardent drummers though. Maybe next time.

My brief and spurious crush amounted to nothing; she danced out of my life. Overly ambitious, I was outclassed again, as is my persistent tendency. But maracatu remains in my mind as one of the, if not the greatest reflection of what Brazilian life is like, and can be, always and at any time.

If you are sitting at a little hovel eating full portions of farofa and rice, beans and steak, drinking large bottles of cheap beer and enjoying the night air and the beautiful, challenging chatter of Portuguese conversation, do not take for granted that your night will conclude there.

At any time, magically, for you only need to be present in Rio - as that is the state around which life is arranged there - you may find yourself swept up and away in the beautiful clamor, irresistibly led on by the banging and booming, the twirling and calls and leaps and rejoinders.

You might notice a girl that takes you away, makes your head swim. She may leave you no option but simply to watch her, admiringly, unabashedly spell-bound. Curiously and startlingly, they can do this.... Maracatu makes me wonder about the fate of the world.

Service

For more information about Rio Maracatu, visit www.riomaracatu.com

Or contact them at contato@riomaracatu.com

David Adair is a burgeoning freelance writer originally hailing from the United States. Adair has traveled extensively throughout much of Latin America, calling Brazil home for the better part of 2007. He has written on topics ranging from booty-shaking Baile Funks in the favelas of Rio, to the impact of Colombian narco-trafficking on real estate speculation in Nicaragua, to the quiet Colombian banking boom spawned by the exodus of Capital from Chavez-weary Venezuela. Currently he calls no place in particular home. Adair can be reached directly via email at dnadair@yahoo.com  or visit his personal, gratuitously self-promoting page at www.myspace.com/daveobscuro.  



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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 17, 2008
What's scary is that David doesn't seem to recognize the implicationc of the fact that our only local maracatú group of any note - Rio Maracatú - is hardly some sort of roots remnant from slavery times but a very recent concotion mostly put together by middle class and college kids who are enchanted with Northeastern folklore.

Nothing against that, mind you, but it's as "roots Rio" as Mardi Gras is roots NYC.

David is misreading what's essentially a regional folkloric form as some sort of über-cultural narrative that sweeps all across Brazil - nay, all across Latin America, entire.

David, while it's nice that you appreciate Maracatú, realize that all African-based musical forms are not essentially alike. Maracatú comes from a completely different tradition - in fact, from a completely different part of Africa - than, say, jongo (one of the roots forms of choró and samba). The two are as alike as, say, the tarantella and the waltz. 3

Why David considers maracatú to be such an essentially carioca experience and not, say, tango or salsa - two musical forms which also dominate in Lapa and which have much deeper carioca roots than Maracatú - is beyond me.
Lapa-
written by Zak, March 17, 2008
Sounds great. By way of contrast, when I visited Rio last September, I took the advice of the "Rough Guide" and went to a bar in Lapa (against the advice of a barman in Ipanema, who counselled against, as he saw it, certain robbery). I was the only gringo in the area let alone the bar and the young guys loitering about under the Lapa arches noticed this too. I knew full well that I would get done over if I had attempted to leave the bar alone and walk the short distance to the taxi rank, so I made sure that I jumped into a taxi that pulled up outside the bar later. Love the idea of Bohemian Lapa, but I didn't see it in evidence (Maybe it's because I went on a Sunday?)
Lapa nights
written by Zak, March 17, 2008
Sounds great, wished I had experienced the above. I was in Rio last September by myself and finding nightlife in Rio not to be all it's cracked up to be, I took the advice of the "Rough Guide" and went to a bar in Lapa that they reccomended highly. A barman in Ipanema tried to warn me off going there on my own, but I decided to give it a whirl. The music was good, but there weren't that many people there and it was fairly subdued. I was the only gringo in the arear it appeared and the groups of guys loitering around the Lapa arches noticed this too as I got quite a few stares through the open windows (maybe it was how I was dressed?) My thoughts later turned to how to get out and catch a Taxi without being robbed as the nearest Taxi rank was 3 streets away ans there seemed to be quite a lot of young men hanging around on the streets at night without any discernable purpose (they didn't look as if they were having fun). Long story short, luckily a taxi pulled up outside the bar door later on and stayed long enough for me to settle the tab and therefore avoid walking around late at night in Lapa looking for a lift back to Zona Sul. I love the idea of Bohemian Lapa, but sadly I didn't find any evidence of it during my brief visit. I anticipate the ususal follow up attacks against my Gringo naivety etc, but my point is simple, the tourist authorities build up a rather mythical vision of Rio nightlife which is hard for the average visitor to (safely) find and enjoy.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 17, 2008
Oh, dear...

Lapa, dangerous?

Not especially. Though I can think of one bar that would be kind of dodgy for a non-Portuguese-speaking gringo, alone, on an off-night. From your description, you were there Zak. The bar that's to the right of the aqueduct as it runs into Santa Teresa hill...?
responses...
written by David Adair, March 18, 2008
Given my particular fondness for Rio Maracatu, I think this rather affectionately addresses Thadeus' concerns. His a point well made (though I don't know how truly frightening my perception of Maracatu is...!)
"Rio maracatu's inception seems the wild and spirited grandchild of these elder greats, being spawned only recently in the year 1997, with it's direct lineage from the band's leader and founder, Francisco "Chicote", descending from the northeastern state of Pernambuco."
It's obvious that this particular manifestation of Maracatu is the gentrified and hippiefied version native to Rio, as pointed out in this passage:
"Rio maracatu is perhaps a dressed-down version of the more ornate and traditional maracatus from the Northeast, but I cannot see how it could be less attractive. An assemblage of young, magnificent and forthright hippies it seems, all fit and slender and decorous, glide and parade and fan the night air in colorful skirts, which, once spun, erupt into a floral spectacle as they levitate into fantastic, dizzying and multi-colored palettes, dozens in unison."

Perhaps we also differ in the notion of what defines "bohemia", but I stand by my use of the term.

As to the relative safety and nightlife of Lapa, it is a peculiar contrast. It is both safe and dangerous, if that is possible. I resided there in the heart of Lapa, next to the arches, for the better part of sixth months, and was both witness to murders, stabbings, assaults and robberies, in one category, and in another, amazing fellowship, self-effacing comeraderie, all night street rambles, and generally found it to be the only place in Rio where one could expect people to come to your aid where you to ever find yourself in a pickle, so to speak. This is in direct contrast to places like Copacabana, for example, where one can be violently robbed in public places to the intrigue of innumerable passive onlookers.
In Lapa there is the unique survivalists' dichotomy that almost everyone is your friend, and almost no one is your friend, if that makes any sense, and the ragtag community manages to bind itself around this rather baudy cohesion. The so-called violent nature of Lapa seemed just an incorporated facet of life there that people somehow adapt to and embrace. It was all part of the circus side show, practically. Evolution plays out a harsh note in that borough of town. Those who aren't cut out for it often pay a nominal toll. Those who are asking for trouble often get it. However the aforementioned Ipanema barman was probably trying stave off the competition, as there is none on a relatively quiet Ipanema Friday night, when compared to Lapa. And yes, being that you were in Lapa on a Sunday, Zak, you were most definitely there on the wrong night. Try again. Friday or bust. It is like night and day.

But you weren't in so much danger as it might have seemed. A first visit to Lapa on a notably quiet night can be an intimidating one, but it's mostly just our North American sensibilities, and conditioning to orderliness and a "sense" of security, which is challenged. Once you learn how to walk, carry yourself, dress, and carouse, it's a safe place. I manipulated very comfortable street ambles at any and all hours of the night, but yes there are places you probably shouldn't go at times, or at least be keenly aware of your surroundings. Becoming a familiar face and becoming familiar with faces is eternally invaluable.

As far as tangos and salsas go, although yes you can find them on occasion in Rio and Lapa, these are not even of Brasilian in origin (so why write about it?), but genres displaying their wares from Spanish speaking countries, and performed generally for the entertainment of Spanish speaking tourists and gringos. I found most cariocas had a distinct aversion to Salsa, and I don't even think I ever saw a true tango, as I did randomly and consistently in Buenos Aires and Montevideo. If those musical genres were there you definitely had to seek them out, and you usually weren't surrounded by Brasilians.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 18, 2008
As far as tangos and salsas go, although yes you can find them on occasion in Rio and Lapa, these are not even of Brasilian in origin (so why write about it?)


Well, see, that's what bothers me about articles like these. In the mad chase after "real" Brazilian culture, people toss history out the window - and culture is NOTHING if not history.

This may be hard for you to believe, David, but historians of carioca popular music are very clear about the fact that salsa and particularly tango had an enormous impact on musical culture in Rio in general and on the bohemian night-life of 1930-50s Lapa in particular. Maracatú, on the other hand, while Brazilian, has really not been a part of the city's popular cultural history until... well until about 1997. At least not in any mass sense.

So ironically enough, those tango and salsa joints are much more roots Lapa than Rio Maracatú.

And why is this frightening? It just seems to me that in people's search to reconstruct "cultural essences" or "roots", they frequently choose colorful fantasy over provable reality and thus end up covering up more than they uncover. I happen to love Rio Maracatú, but never in my wildest fantasies would I classify it as some sort of essentialist reflection of carioca culture as expressed by the city's history, which seems to be the underlying theme of your article.

Let's see if I can give you a metaphor to express my unease in a way you might grasp...

It's as if Borat's print-journalist cousin, Semat, were in New York City writing about the Nude Cowboy in Times Square and telling us how he is a reflection of everything that is true and New Yorkan, as well as a by-God authentic descendant of the American Country and Western tradition, which is very alive and well in NYC and represents the essential soul of the city. And then Semat would pooh-pooh salsa and mambo as "not really being American, so why write about it?"

What would your visceral reaction to such reporting be, David?
Cadê a minha vagaBUNDA Shelly?
written by ...., March 18, 2008
She does the maracatú every time she sits on my lap.

Belisco nas tetas… meu bem!

Costinha
TRAGA CARNE PREU NESSE CARNEVALLEY
written by Jussara Lima, March 19, 2008
Costeletinha smilies/grin.gif
If You Are Magically Swept Away in Brazil You Got Maracatu Fever....
written by Macunaima, March 19, 2008
...or it's a arrastão. smilies/grin.gif

Sorry, dude. I couldn't resist.
Input
written by Zak, March 20, 2008
Thaddeus and David, thanks for the input and you are absolutely bang on, that description of the bar by the arches sounds right and that's were I was. I was dissapointed with Rio nightlife overall and wasn't sad to leave the city, but I have got a very strong desire to return to Brazil (possibly even to live) in the Northeast in the next year or two. I would love to be proved wrong about Rio and maybe I will give it another go at some time. Thanks guys ( in case anyone is wondering, why I submitted two comments; I thought the first one didn't upload and then re-wrote and submitted the second very soon after)
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written by Dave Adair, March 20, 2008
Before this gets far too heavily extrapolated, I think you may be seeing too much, from your presumably learned perch, into my article and heaping quite a lot of the abrogations, excesses and entrenchments of academia onto what was little more than an attempt to encapsulate and express the essence of a personal experience that I relished and valued once every Friday while residing in Lapa. I am compelled by the nature of the subject matter to provide some basic historical background, however I shied away intentionally from particularly that kind of academically incisive article which you seem to want to compell me to have written. I am not attempting to uncover anything, nor defame any popular misconception, though it does pain me nominally to disappoint. The article simply won't be serving that purpose for you. I suggest that is your own paper to write, and furthermore that you are trying to unearth something for your own personal gratification which simply isn't there. It's a bit foolhearty to try to get blood from a turnip, if you are familiar with the saying.... I certainly am no stereotype seeking the "real" Brasil, as is so inherent, for whatever reason, to the sycophantism of that country and it's culture. It was a chance encounter, and a genuine one I might add, which I relished and enjoyed, and the point of the article, if you would unbury yourself from your under historical tomes for a moment, was an attempt to express and convey that particular experience in an unfiltered way. I am not particularly interested in tango and salsa for the exact reason that I almost never heard it performed there in Lapa, and, when I did on the rare occasion chance to hear either of them, these particular genres were met almost invariably with reactions of indifference, discomfort, disdain, and often revulsion, by the Brasilians. Forro, Samba, Maracatu, and yes if not even moreso Baile Funk and Hip Hop are the mainstays of today's Lapa. I doubt most carioca who frequent Lapa on the weekends have ever so much as laid eyes on a Tango show. So, again, barring a historical treatise replete with annotations and bibliographical references, I say again, for my purposes, why should I write about it? It's irrelevant to the experience, as are the bulk of your objections. That's like saying I want to write about the face of modern automation today and spending all my time detailing the rise and development of the wheel, by cavemen, if we are going to apparently allow for the excesses of exaggeration to establish our points here.
I didn't get the Borat thing; I'm not going to try. Perhaps you should work on that. It's off, and poorly developed. A bibliography would be helpful, as well, so we can double check the validity of your claims.
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written by David Adair, March 20, 2008
Yes the uploader thing seems to have some issues...
D'yadare
written by Simpleton, March 20, 2008
Between routing everything through the less than "opaque" PF system and the 4-letra word screening routines, things take a bit of time to process through. Best bet, do your post - copy it to the clipboard, refresh (or better yet go elseplace for 5 minutes and come back), check for what you posted and repeat (without the copying to the clipboard). If you still don't see what you put, paste and post again.

You gonna fix this s**te Joao or are your hands and other things tied in knots?
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 21, 2008
David, if I know something about the history of popular music in Rio and you don't, it's not "presumably learned", is it? And far be it for me to toss a bucket of water on your enthusiasm for Rio Maracatu, a group which I enjoy quite a bit. But it's not "academic" to point out that this musical form has little to do with Rio and less to do with Latin America, as a whole. It's a very regional form of folklore. No one's looking for you to write an academically incisive article. Simple, basic facts would be nice, however.

I've been frequenting Lapa for about ten years now. You may have noticed, next to your bed and breakfast, a little bar called "Semente"..? From about 1997 to around 2002, it was one of Lapa's premier nightspots and one of its main offerings was salsa, merengue and tango - along with samba, choro and other roots carioca musical forms. It was extremely popular and I - along with many residents of the city - was sad to see the place close. These days, 'Ta na Rua does a salsa baile every Friday and Saturday and the place is generally packed, so I really don't share your view that cariocas are looking down other forms of Latin music. Sure, it's a minority taste these days, but it's hardly marginal.

As for Rio Maracatú... Well, the group itself has only really begun to get popular in the last year and they still aren't very active outside of tourist season, nor have they spawned any imitators. In fact, most of the time Rio Maracatu comes down the street, a big portion of the people following them are foreign tourists, like yourself. They are well known as one of the most tourist-attracting street groups in town, precisely because their act is what so many gringos think "roots Brazilian" culture looks like.

I didn't get the Borat thing; I'm not going to try.


Borat is funny because he radically misinterprets American culture, David. Not to hard to figure it out, now, is it?

Perhaps you should work on that. It's off, and poorly developed.


Tell you what: you work on "foolhardy" vs. "foolhearty" and I'll work on Semat.

BtW, in your six months stay in Lapa, did you ever manage to get over to O Beco do Rato? Just wondering...
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written by David Adair, March 22, 2008
It is in fact "presumed" because as far as I am concerned you are the only one who seems to think so. The fact of the matter is that for through all of your presumptiousness and bombast you've failed rather noticeably to have performed the essential and basic task of reading the article supposedly in question. It is not the history of Lapa's musical influences which I have once attempted to catalogue nor do any justice whatsoever, nor am I attempting to delineate the derivation of which specific African nation from whence Maracatu descends, other than to confirm, yes, the stuff generally came from Africa. Thererfore I don't call yours an informed nor education position on the subject matter in the least, ergo my repeated point. If you've thoroughly misread or underread the text which is, again, apparently in dispute, then it is not far-fetched nor unimaginable when I happen to find the basis for your essential argument to be leaking holes all over the floor. It seems less a clearly critical response and more, frankly, of a psychologically tuned reaction. If you can't simply enjoy the vicarious experience of life without disseceting with it all manner of irrelevant and non-essential and inapplicable trivia, then, were I a sympatheticaly prone creature I'd feel pity in your general direction. But I don't. Your type of sensibility is far too innumerable and essentially coarse for me to exert excess concern and dote over the prognostication. History itself is in fact replete with the clash of the trained, reactionary, professorial types seeking to jerrymander undeserved recognition vs. the machinatons of creative folk who lay down a cohesive piece off work with mojo, funk, and ingenuity, and who furthermore can see and appreciate a thing a of beauty in the moment of it's conception without first needing to genuflect to the tempering altar of historical relevance. I don't care if they were singing the can-can and Dancing with Wolves in 1942, it makes no difference whatsoever to what the sensation of being present at a particular time in place can feel, sound, taste, and smell like.
Futhermore I never once mentioned any such enigma, which is apparently a personal pet project of your own, this thing you refer to as "roots Rio" or "roots carioca". I have simply described what it is like to be present at a particular given moment in Rio, from the vantage point of actually haven resided in Lapa, which apparently you have not from your vantage point in Ipanema or Botafago or Humaita or is it Leblon or Barra Tijuca(??), ever had the pleasure of experiencing in your ten years of patronism to the zone. And it certainly was no cushy bed and breakfast where I both lived and toiled, for my lodgings. If you know the Rua Evaristo da Veiga you should know that no such thing even close to a B&B exists there.
I've seen Borat. It's your use of the caricature which is hardly applicable in this situation.
(to be cont'd....)
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written by David Adair, March 22, 2008
I've been to Semente. I don't know when you were last in Lapa but at least a bar by the same name was open to the public and flourishing in 2007 when I was there. Yes they played an nuevo-admixture of samba/tango/choro fusion, etc, but it was primarily to an eclectic crowd of students and the middle class kids you deride (and no doubt call your peers). They frequented Lapa primarily on Sunday nights and seemed to stand out against the regular throngs that populated the place on the Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights, and certainly stood in stark contrast to the residents, bums and glue-sniffling favela children that called that particular place home for a time, as I did.
You will find typos and even mispellings occasionally in my text, as can be found in your own, I am sure, from time to time. I often don't take time on things not worth the waste of too many sucessive breaths. A sophomoric and guileless stab, otherwise known as "sweating the small stuff".
It seems rather to me that what we are dealing with here is a case of you not being particularly appreciative of someone horning in on your specialized sphere of expertise, without of course the requesite nod to your as yet unproven authority on the matter, as far as I can tell. Who says you know more, anyway? I've yet to see you cite any sources for the record. They could have in fact been dancing the can-can in 1942, for all I know. And that goes equally for the quaint and picaresque notion that culture is NOTHING without history. I mean it sounds all well and good and we are all inclined to nod knowingly and approvingly, but if we're going to dispatch with the sonorous platitudes all over the place, my devil's advocacy would simply be to respond by saying: Prove it. In my opinion culture is nothing without the moment.
Lastly, to your credit you've noticed something which I did struggle with but was compelled to omit, however you've shortsightedly mistaken one thing entirely for something completely unrelated and essentially, of a practical matter. Previous to it's publication here, the article in question was inevitably shopped around to a number of publications which, of course, all mandated a particular word-count. I would have preferred a greater and and enhanced historical record be established within the text, however, in asking myself journalisitically what the focus of the story was more essentially & relevantly concerned with, I was compelled to opt out of the historical angle, for the most part. Basic journalistic contraints, nothing more.
I've been to Beco do Rato, yes, numerous times. I saw a gringo compatriate of mine there for the last time before he was killed outside the steps of Semente later that night, by an undercover policeman. I won't venture to surmise whether it seemed appropriately "roots carioca" or not. Obviously the authority is not vested in me.
Yawn …
written by ....., March 22, 2008
Boring article, bunch of SOB gringo bitches, you can all kiss my a$$.

Costa

PS F.u.c.k. the United States of America
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written by David Adair, March 22, 2008
Yes, Costa, I heard these same sentiments expressed to me time and time again, over and over, during my time in Brasil, and before and since. I found their expression commonplace, thoughtless, thickheaded and boring. Just because the gringos are all stealing your women is no need to be a sore loser. Find yourself a gringa, the exchange seems to work out well that way.
I'll try to liven up the piece with oblique anti-Bush rhetoric next time.
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written by David Adair, March 22, 2008
Lastly, Thad, since we are calling into question the depth of each other's qualifications here, I will attach the following addendum:
In preparation for the article I interviewed with Aline Valentim, Rio Maracatu's lead dançarina and dance instructor, who wrote a very lengthy, and apparently definitive graduate thesis on the history of Maracatu. She generously provided me with more information than I could possibly use, and I do rue the fact that I could not incorporate more of it inside my slender, 1500 word article. However I am penning no thesis here. I still have the interview notes to prove it if you are not satisfied.

-Yours, Boratinho.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 22, 2008
Semente's been opened up and closed down due to noise complaints so many times now that I've lost track. Glad to hear that they're up and going again and I hope they manage to keep it that way. Back around 2001-4, Semente was THE place to hang on a Friday night. Apparently, the city government's "on again, off again" war on chaos in Lapa has disrupted that.

A sophomoric and guileless stab, otherwise known as "sweating the small stuff".


Hey, if you can't take it, Dave, don't deal it. ;-)

I have simply described what it is like to be present at a particular given moment in Rio, from the vantage point of actually haven resided in Lapa, which apparently you have not from your vantage point in Ipanema or Botafago or Humaita or is it Leblon or Barra Tijuca(??),...


Lapa and Santa Té, mostly. But Santa Tés now filling up with guys like you, so I'll probably be moving soon. Laranjeiras looks like a possibility.

It seems rather to me that what we are dealing with here is a case of you not being particularly appreciative of someone horning in on your specialized sphere of expertise, without of course the requesite nod to your as yet unproven authority on the matter, as far as I can tell.


No, Dave, I just thought it was a funny article. "Funny" as in "ha ha". Just funny. Silly as hell. Particularly the bits about you being "naked before god and the world" watching the "pagan Christmas parade roll by". smilies/cheesy.gif

Who says you know more, anyway?


God, Dave. I have his aval right here. Com firma reconhecida , no less.

I've been to Beco do Rato, yes, numerous times. I saw a gringo compatriate of mine there for the last time before he was killed outside the steps of Semente later that night, by an undercover policeman.


Not suprised. That was the guy who wanted to slap around a street kid who robbed his girlfriend and then wouldn't back off when an off-duty (not undercover) cop told him to cool it, right? I talked to a couple of people who witnessed that. Consensus among the people I've talked to is that your friend had a major chip on his shoulder that night.

F.u.c.k. the United States of America


Works for me. But far be it for me to engage in criticizing the U.S. current statesman-in-chief and his enlightened view of the world.

Just because the gringos are all stealing your women...


Oh my. What shall we ever do when all the gringo chasers, Copacabana pros and other biscates are taken? smilies/cheesy.gif

In preparation for the article I interviewed with Aline Valentim, Rio Maracatu's lead dançarina and dance instructor, who wrote a very lengthy, and apparently definitive graduate thesis on the history of Maracatu.


Yeah, I know Aline and I'm aware of her work. IIRC, it doesn't present Maracatu as typical carioca culture, does it?

Why don't you do us a write up of the Rato?
Just curious, Dave...
written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 22, 2008
Were you able to read Aline's thesis in Portuguese, or did you have it translated?
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written by David Adair, March 22, 2008
He wasn't my friend. And, yes, he had it coming to him. Consummate dumbass, coked out of his mind as usual. Yes with rather enflamed chip on his shoulder, for getting his ass beat soundly, again, a couple of days prior to his untimely death. I watched it happen, the beating, that is, not the shooting, and may have even had an indirect hand in his demise. Another story all together....
Your facts are generally correct, though. The girl that was robbed is another friend of mine. My only point in mentioning all of this is that I was no aloof, well-endowed tourist, merely passing through casually and sniffing for hookers. I rarely left Lapa for the 6 months that I was there, and generally only to remove myself to Santa Teresa for a couple of days for much needed recooperation and quiet. My attempt was to live there, but unfortunately Rio got the bulk of my money before I was able to become solvent.
Watch out, then, I'll be scanning your text for typos.
Yes, gringos hunters. I had no less than 3 marriage proposals in the 6months that I was there. I turned them all down.
And since I am apparently persona non grata for having been foreign born, what nationality do you hail from M. Blanchette?
I never read Aline's thesis, only the interview (mostly monologue on her part) and then the advocacy of others who recommended me to her. Anyway, I could write another article all together from the basic synopsis that she relayed to me. Nice girl. I like and respect her a lot. Plus she can dance.

P.S.S.S: Again, I never categorized nor cast nor systematized Maracatu as typical carioca culture. It may read as though I am typifying it as such, but if you care to carefully reread the text, nowhere does it state anything even alluding to this association. I do describe Maracatu a metaphor that best reflects, in my mind, what the condition of residing in Rio is like, it's spontaneous infectiousness, etc etc, but I make it clear that it's descended first from Africa and then from the Northeast and then only recently, in 1997, to be exact, did it find its way to Rio. I also made it relatively, clear, I believe, the fact of Maracatu's only recent impact on the culture of Rio and the consciousness Brasilians in general (outside of the Northeast), with increased popularity and exposure, and that it is merely in the stage of a gaining foothold culturally, in Brasil (outside of the Northeast) and worldwide.
Generally I found the crowds to be following them a very mixed bag of cariocas, other native Brasilians and foreigners. Not singularly anything from exclusively one clan or another. That was part of what I really enjoyed about it. I also liked the fact that this was obviously a Rio version of Maracatu, a fused and progressing evolution of the original, rather than being a perfectly preserved historical performance, devoid of the inevitable machinations and ingenuity of a creative addition to the line. That to me is what culture is about. We can go to the musuem anyday, but to witness something in its infancy and developmental stages, before it reaches the abstracting accolades of acclaim and infamy, well, that is rare & genuine thing to behold, in my opinion.
I'm long here. It's Saturday. A f**king beautiful day here in the US of A and I've got a hot date with some sleazy gringas. Hope the weather is fine in Rio, boa Sabado para todos.
I don't know much about Beco do Rato other than I got drunk there a lot and listened to music.
I have something pending about Paraty in the works. I'll get my guns ready. I'm sure the experts are everywhere.
If you speak French M. Blanchette you can access another of my articles about Baile Funk from my Myspace page. Bon appetite! A warning, the editor did a lot of chopping so don't come crying to me about the specifics.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 23, 2008
And since I am apparently persona non grata for having been foreign born, what nationality do you hail from M. Blanchette?


LOL. David, since when does being foreign make you persona non grata?

And as for silly-assed tourist pieces on Rio, I've written my share of them, something you can check for yourself if you do a search for Blanchette AND Lapa. But that doesn't make them any less silly-assed.

Since your up on what academics are doing what down here, I happen to be the guy who wrote the book on gringos (just like Aline wrote hers on Maracatu). So I, personally, happen to find the whole "good tourist/bad tourist" thing ridiculous. Having interviewed a boat-load of folks like you (gringos passing through Rio for longer than 2 weeks in order to experience the "real Rio de Janeiro"), I can understand that the "I am a traveller, not a tourist" identity rap is important for you. I mean, it's great y'all come down here and learn a bit of Portuguese and bop around Lapa and stuff, but so far, I haven't seen that many really differences between you guys and the bona-fide tourists. Not that I think that there's anything wrong with the tourists.

Why am I so cynical about the whole Maracatu thing and your discovery of it? Simple: If you'd have come down in 1999-2002, you'd have been writing about how Lapa was inflamed with Forró and you would have probably talked up what a great band Forró Carioca was. If you'd been here between 2002 and 2005, it would have been Choro. But the problem is, with a bit more historical depth, David, you can see these fads come and go. They are as înfectiously carioca" and "really Brazil" as Carmen Miranda's fake-o Bahiana outfit was. Carioca intellectual middle-class kids connected with the entertainment biz "discover" and promote a new aspect of Brazilian folklore every 5 years or so. Maracatu is just the latest in a looooooong train of these. After you've lived here for a few decades, you get to appreciate what it is: our version of college kids hustling for an opening.

Let's make a public bet, right here and now, David: I bet you 50 bucks that by 2013,Rio Maracatu will be a rapidly fading memory in this city. I could be wrong, of course, but I feel that the odds are about 2:1 in my favor. So if I win, you pay me only 25USD. And I bet you Aline will be busy working for Rede Globo or a Samba school.

Deal?

And you don't need to be depressed about the "passing of real Brazilian culture", because I guarantee that the "Escola Musical Villa Lobos" and "Fundição" crowd will, by that time, have come up with some other bit of folklore to wow tourists with on a Friday night.

I don't know much about Beco do Rato other than I got drunk there a lot and listened to music.


See, now that's where I sigh and shake my head and mutter about tourists. Beco is a hell of a lot more roots than anything else you'll see down in Lapa, for all that it's a relatively new venue, and I GUARANTEE that some of the guys you see playing down there will still be big names in samba/choro/pagode circles ten years from now, let alone in five.

If you speak French M. Blanchette you can access another of my articles about Baile Funk from my Myspace page.


LOL. Some other time, maybe. Now, I have to go eat vacalhau and drink binho on this glorious Sábado de Aleiluia .

Answer me this, Dave...
written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 23, 2008
Why is it that guys like you, who come to Rio for 6 months or so, always use the spectre of sex tourists passing through town for two weeks when you want to show how you're different?

I ask, because you comment above on "gringos stealing Brazilian women" indicates that you were very cheerfully sexually active and probably somewhat promiscuous during your stay down here.

So do you think Brazilians should give you extra credit for not paying, or what?

You're probably aware that there's a whole class of women in this town who make a living or supplement their income by floating from one "non-sex tourist" gringo boyfriend to another. So from many carioca's point of view, there doesn't seem to be too much a difference between what you were doing and what some dude down at Help does - except for the fact that the latter guy probably contributes more to our economy and less to our STD transmission rate (seeing as how pros use rubbers more consistently than amateurs).

Yet you "temporary residents" are always quick to point out that you're not whoring around.

Why do you think that is, David?
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 24, 2008
If anyone wants to see the silly-assed tourism article I wrote five years ago about Lapa and the physical culture of Rio centro, it can be seen here:

http://www.brazzil.com/pages/p121apr03.htm
Women of Class
written by Simpleton, March 24, 2008
Not sure whether you aren't getting a bit off topic TB but as to there being those that are not pros and either make a living on or supplement their income from the estranho boyfriend of the month / season thing, you do seem to know the subject. Do you think it is correct to call either them, or the pros, "amateurs" due to your perception that they lack consistency wrt using preservativa's?
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 24, 2008
Well, "amateurs" is mainly a jocose term I've come up with but yeah, it does more-or-less fit them. And I think that they are the ones who are at more risk than the pros I know and one of the reasons is that they don't use condoms as consistently.
well, hell....
written by Dave Adair, March 25, 2008
Dear Thad,

To be honest I'm a lost in the debate here, and feel as though, as you persist in espousing infinite experience and wisdom in summarizing every other passerbyer that comes into view, I won't be ever able to escape the castigation as just another stereotypical imp that erroneously fancies himself a voice of authority over his own experience. I guess I'll never escape the soupbowl of personages you've summarized in the blink of an eye, over the years, and so am finding it a futile and vain task to try. So be it. However the person you describe, much to my chagrin, sounds like a very distant and foreign person who experienced something entirely seperate from what in fact I did. I don't know how to reconcile the two for you. Alas, I shrug.
To be frank, contrary to the popular misconception, I found Rio to be the most sexually frustrating place as I have as yet had the consternation to visit. If you can call my meager conquests in Rio promiscuous then perhaps I should join the ranks of my deceased compatriot and just have someone shoot me right now. The ones getting all the action in a vapid and fevered exchange of fluids, and as far as I could tell, were Europeans and Brasilians. It was generally rare to encounter Americans (of the United States of) due primarily to Brasil's visa policy, bad press and violence, I assume, and I can attest to the fact of our general unpopularity. Getting my point through to you was almost as easy as getting laid in Lapa, and so you can imagine how frustrating and impervious most cariocas were to my tempered and often genteel advances. I think as far as cariocas were concerned, I was a square. Or they presumed, like yourself, too pridefully, concerning my intentions and motivations, and heedlessly and unjustifiably chaulked me up as a scandalous, exploitative man-whore. My Portuguese of course was less than stellar, and, I found over time that I was starved for intimacy in Brasil. Though I didn't admire the culture any less. Had it not been in my face so constantly and so without reprieve, I would have found it an abstracting and alienating experience. Were I any less weary of the debate I would find your ceaseless references towards me as "guys like you" inherently offensive. I didn't meet any guys like me, that I can recall, in Rio, and the closest that came to "guys like me" or people like me were actually native Brasilians from outside of Rio, who also found it strange, obtuse, wonderful and disturbing there. However we were all compelled to adapt, smilingly, over time.

I can imagine that you might be correct about to finite nature of musical trends in Rio, as they are most often similarly finite in the rest of the world, especially in such a place inflamed with the popularity of faddishness as Rio sometimes can be. If I didn't go the trouble to find out more about Beco do Rato it was because I didn't happen to find it particularly stunning, beyond the basic surface level. An interesting place to congregate and drink beer and listen to music with friends, I often, however, found the experience dull; I hope you'll forgive me. I am sure I didn't always attend on the right night. It probably had a lot to do with the weird and sometimes dissatisfying gaggle of people that I was congregating with, mostly gringos and marginalized Brasilians.
In 2013 $25 US won't be worth two s**ts nor the postage it takes to send down there, given our current decline in the dollar, and the rise in the real. A cheap ruse for your Cachaca fund, no doubt. We'd never agree on the outcome anyway. I contributed enough money to the Brasilian economy in vain, already. Though I am sure I'll be back to waste some more some day.
Scat
written by Simpleton, March 25, 2008
You can find a good scat bar just about any place if you're outgoing enough to risk embarrassing yourself asking and asking until you find someone who knows where one is. Could be you try the place someone suggests but it just happens to be a bad night / wrong season / whatever. Rio's a bit easier, just bring any old six string (if it's only got four left that's okay too) and open up a bit - you'll easily find violinista's willing to put a few licks in. You might even encounter some beach bum extraordinarily talented at extracting just about any genre you suggest you'd like to hear out even the most difficult hack. If not, walk back towards the kitch in some big name bar when it's not so busy, pluck a couple of strings and see if the cook can take a break and entertain the staff. Failing all, find an old time quiosque on the beach (which are slowly but surely being put out of business), ask the proprietor to change the blareing music over to musica nationale, then try to pick out the melody - you'll find someone strolling along who can handle things / show you how it's done. Sorry it seems you shrivelled and died DA although it is encouraging to hear you're at least considering going back to give it another ($)whirl.
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written by David Adair, March 25, 2008
I didn't shrivel and die and it certainly wasn't any lack of entertainment or culture that I departed lovely Rio. Extenuating circumstances, such as a visa expiration and a less than compassionate ex-girlfriend hastened my departure from that country before I got my ass landed in prison, fined, or otherwise escorted out.
You let her move in?
written by Simpleton, March 25, 2008
Then tried to kick her out eh? Dismissing an employee, even an unofficial one like an "amatuer" as TB calls 'em, is damb tough - will always lead to attention from some advogado. You no pay? Papels not perfectly in order? Even if you had people of significance (and a bit of grease) to speak up for you, you did the right thing by running before immigration caught up to you. Did you make it out prior to expiry or did you get a hefty fine on the way out?
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 25, 2008
David, my opinions may be strong and perhaps I present them too aggressively, but rest assured, I do not consider myself to be a source of infinite wisdom regarding Brazil. I do think, however, that I'm pretty well informed on some topics and one of these is the way gringos behave in Rio. Why am I well informed on this topic? Because I spent about 4 years studying it, collecting interviews, observing people, reading the history of the topic and etc. Now, I don't feel that YOU, personally, are a stereotype, but I do think that your article shows a tendency to behave in ways that are quite common to the kind of tourist that you are. Pointing these out is not an attempt to toss you in a little box and dismiss you: it's an attempt to descry patterns in human social existence. That's what social scientists do.

[qyote] To be frank, contrary to the popular misconception, I found Rio to be the most sexually frustrating place as I have as yet had the consternation to visit.

As it happens, I agree with you. I had similar experiences myself. However, how do you square this comment with the comment above to the effect that "us foreigners are stealing Brazilian women"? That comment certainly leads me to believe that you think - or at least thought - that the norm in Brazil SHOULD be sexual promiscuity. Otherwise, why make the comment? Or what am I missing here...?

Now, you think that "guys like you" is an offensive generalization. Yet you make the same sort of generalization all the time when you presume that there's a "Brazilian culture" which more-or-less informs us all as to how we should be and act. Both of us are making generalizations with regards to cultural patterns and, personally, the only thing I'm interested in is if they are GOOD generalizations.

You see Brazilians as "other" and try to suss out patterns in that "otherness". That is, of course, the whole point in writing about a "typical and different" cultural phenomena, as you do above (as opposed to tango, which you do not see as "Brazilian" enough). Yet you seem offended that the tables be turned back on you. Surely you must realize that, from the Brazilian point of view, you are an exotic other, with behaviors that seem to be following certain patterns?

Or, in your view, is it only Americans who are allowed to observe and attempt to understand foreign behaviors? Brazilians don't get to play Indiana Jones...?

especially in such a place inflamed with the popularity of faddishness as Rio sometimes can be.


Sometimes? Dave, look up "frivolous" in any good thesaurus and you'll find "Rio de Janeiro". smilies/cheesy.gif

If I didn't go the trouble to find out more about Beco do Rato it was because I didn't happen to find it particularly stunning, beyond the basic surface level.


And that's the problem with spectacular descriptions of "typical" culture by foreigners in general: they tend to miss what's not spectacular but which may be crucially important. If the operative concept here is "carioca culture", what's going on down at the Rato is much more typical, deeply-rooted and liable to produce interesting spin-offs than Rio Maracatu. But what's going on down at the Rato generally occurs in Portugese as conversation over tin beer tables and is codified in the presentation of songs that are imbued with (in some cases) over a century of local history. So it's not accessible to eye of the foreigner just passing through precisely because it's not spectacular.

But Dave, I'm seriously interested in your response to my question. Whether or not you got laid, you were certainly open to the idea and probably thought it was going to happen. No biggie. No critique from me there. But what I asked is why guys like you, whom I call "local gringos" or "temporary residents", always bring up the spectre of loud tourists in floral shirts paying for sex on Copa when you want to emphasize the fact that your are different? I mean, if you were hanging around with the gringo/gringo-chaser crowd (and I know exactly who you're talking about, btw), you have to be aware of the fact that those folks are not exactly chaste. And in spite of your frustrations, three marriage proposals in a couple of months indicates that you were ,at the very least, seen as a member of that circle by the kinds of women I call gringo-chasers.

So what's behind the construction of this dichotomy, in your view? I've heard this sort of thing a lot from gringos, so I'm interested in a bona-fide native's opinion ("native" being you, in this context, of course).











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written by David Adair, March 25, 2008
Simpleton, yes, I made it out just in time before the second visa expiration. (I had successfully extended it once.) I was not going to tempt fate concerning the fury of a carioca doidinha scorned. Otherwise I would have happily reside there as an illegal. I even had a promising, although fledgling little business going, but she could have put the kabash on the entire thing. I'd heard too many horror stories from "guys like me" already; I knew, and could well imagine, what she was capable of.
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written by David Adair, March 25, 2008
Thad, you'll have to forgive me. I honestly don't even know where to begin. I'd love to be able to provide you with an adequate response, but, what is it exactly again that I am supposed to be answering?

Here is my beef. In directing certain questions towards me you seem to be basing them on experiences you've had with any number of other persons, and they simply don't apply to me or my personal experience. I'm aware that you are accustomed to interrogating tourists but I find it difficult to respond without feeling a bit pigeon-holed and mischaracterized by the presumptions inherent to the questions themselves. It seems, when you are directing certain statements toward me personally, your information is consistently founded on false pretenses. I find it difficult to respond without having to first challenge the very assertions that are embedded and superimposed in the questions themselves. But then we are talking about delving more deeply into my personal life on a public forum, something I find less and less comfortable in participating with. Perhaps I ma not the best candidate to further your studies. I am and have always been an anomoly, the one case the social scientists are compelled to toss out because it does not fit squarely into their neatly preconceived notions they seem dead set on presenting to the world. Believe me, I got interrogations aplenty while in Brasil, as it seems common trait (GENERALLY SPEAKING) to both castigate unjustly and simulataneously solicit the opinion of the once castigated.... thrusting a generalized social theory on someone and then challenging them to disprove it, lest they be cast into the ash heap of yes, dismissable, clinical stereotypes. What's my compensation, other than a tireless and ceaseless and futile defense for crimes uncommitted? Therein perhaps lies a difference in Brasilian and North American culture, and I have not yet delineated which is preferable, so hold your fire. Each has their detrimental excesses. In the US we are generally considered to be innocent until proven guilty. In Brasil, so often I was struck by the sense, as now, that I was in fact guilty until I had proven my innocence. The latter runs contrary to the N. American state of mind. We do not feel compelled to play along, after a while.

I mean is my sexual history up on the witness stand here? Would you like their numbers so that you might take a stab at them yourself? Ha, being that our histories do seem to coincide here and there, you probably already know some of them, hopefully not too well. I think I'll go to the clinic and get myself checked.

In an attempt to be helpful, however, if you would cease misquoting me and solidifying your presumptions based on those erroneous quotations, it might help to further the understanding that you at least purport to be in pursuit of.

Here is the exact quote: "Just because the gringos are all stealing your women..." It was incorrect to quote me as saying, in effect, "us foreigners are stealing your women". A simple social observation I made, implicitly excluding myself from that particular control group and categorization of gringo. I couldn't have belonged to it if I'd wanted to.

Haha, yes, "sometimes". Well, I didn't want to make a gross generalization, should you, in your no doubt refined tastes, take exception.

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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 25, 2008
I find it difficult to respond without feeling a bit pigeon-holed and mischaracterized by the presumptions inherent to the questions themselves.


Ahn. Well then you know how Brazilians might feel when reading your article. The difference, David, is that Brazilians (at least intellectual cariocas) are used to being looked upon as exotic others while you're probably not - at least not in any systemic way.

I am and have always been an anomoly


Everyone feels that way about themselves, but based on what you've said so far, David, I don't think you're all that anamolous. In fact, I interviewed two other guys who had visa problems which were complicated by girlfriends. It's pretty common to see gringos fall in love with "exotic" Lapa and see it as a typical carioca "slice of life". Gringos generally go for the exotic over the commonplace and that's what stands out in their visions of Brazil. So while you may be an individual, what you've posted here so far seems to me to fall well with in the range of a typical "temporary resident's" experience.

Now, the comment on gringos stealing women, whetner or not you feel it applies to you, is a social observation of the crowd you hung out with. So again, you seem to feel that this is a norm of some sort, whether or not it applies to you. And the comment that you aren't a sex tourist is something I hear from about 5 out of 6 temporary residents.

So the question is why you seem to feel that temporary residents - folks who frequent Lapa, are there for 6 months or so, have Brazilian girlfriends and what not but do not directly pay for sex - feel the need to create this "bad gringo" stereotype of the sex tourist and then distance themselves from it, as if they themselves weren't sexually active?


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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
Well, let's see, your honor, I guess it does me no harm not to plead the fifth here. Not sure why I'm feeling so generous but here does:
Perhaps the responses that you are receiving to this particular line of questioning trend similarly because of the inherently and unjustly accusatory nature of the question themselves. I can assure you I would have enjoyed the fruits of laying down a Lapa mama as much as I would have enjoyed some porteno poontang in San Telmo, or for that matter plucking a ripened Georgia Peach back in the US, but the fact of the matter is that in Rio there is this specter and the specifically looming issue of "sex tourism" (attributable mainly to middle-aged Scandinavians and Germans, as far as I can tell, who the gringo-hunters adore & salivate over) which then can tend to cast a pallor on otherwise generally normal human behavior. Excuse the heck out of me for being a healthy, untethered male in my early thirties, but I have no intention of conducting myself in a monastic or ascetic manner simply to satisfy the social scientists' surmisal that I am or am not a categorical freak. My situation was, in fact, different from what you portray, bottom line. When one sells or otherwise disposes of every stitch of ones personal belongings, house, cars, pets, furniture, books, et cetera, et cetera, to relocate and work in a foreign country, it hardly typifies him as a tourist. I have the marriage visa application to prove it. In my particular case, things went afoul; it foreshortened my stay. I was compelled to leave. It wasn't my intention nor plan to return to the US, though I did plan to travel to Argentina and elsewhere should the conditions of the visa or situation require it, which they did. To correct the record, I guess I could say I met a few "guys like that", who left lives and at times ex-wives behind in other countries, but with the exception of one in Buenos Aires I found not many of them easy to relate to.
I don't know when or where I may have exactly categorized or typified Brasilian behavior as stereotypically exotic, but I am aware of this inordinately pricklish sensitivity within the culture from certain responses I got from my ex-girlfriend, especially. Ironically enough, some of her responses were so, seemingly outrageous and uncalled for that I would have had to qualify her behavior as generally more extreme than anything I had ever witnessed or was able to compare to back in the United States. I found it very difficult to even get people in the US to begin to conceive of what her behavior was like; there was nothing to relate it to. And to that effect the cultural behavior of other in Rio was extremely hard to qualify, assess and explain justifiably to many otherwise uninitiated westerners. Without a frame of reference, us yanquis simply don't often have the capacity to imagine certain things. However I also found that phenomenon to be true of Brasilians, in their regard for yanquis. Case in point. Now we definitely have our share of freaks in the US, and not everyone was as stereotypically wild and exotic as you suggest that I implying, in Rio or elsewhere, but I did a certain kind of cultural resonance to be rippling behavorially throughout the countryside of Brasil, from my limited spectrum, of course. I did enjoy the more tempered behavior to the south, on average, for what that was worth, the shared values of those from the north, who's culture can at times mirror that of the US South, and the "frivolity" and insouciance of cariocas in general also. Certainly there were exceptions everywhere. And everyone I met I remember fondly and nostagicly, I believe, for their intrinsically individual natures and unique characteristics. Being a Southerner, from the US, I also inordinately bristle at being typecast, but generally will take it in stride, to a degree.
To summarize, we woefully are deprived of anything like Maracatu in the US. To us it does seem wild, ornate, narcotic, and yet essential and moving. I would hope that the dancarinas and percussionists who comprise this troupe would feel comfortable with that characterization, whether they perform it for centuries or for a day. If not, I would be happy to and honor-bound to retract the statement.
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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
And I ain't no god damned New Yorker, either! Which is why, in part, I have trouble relating to examples involving New York as model. The first true blue bloody yanks permeate from there, and are, along with many Californians, largely responsible for much of the loathesome behavior and provincial, domineering attitudes which resonate so embarrassingly around the world. That little dead fellow in front of Semente that night, now there was a yanqui. He embarassed me, as did many other yanquis, and I was ashamed that the repercussions of his unnecessary behavior were allowed to cast any dark or negative shadow on any potential world view of Rio or Brasil. Interestingly enough, I was informed that he was a marked man by some bad people back in the US as well, so it wasn't any different, eventually, anywhere else he went.
This american b.i.t.c.h David Adair
written by ...., March 26, 2008
Hangs around the Largo da Lapa (the queer hangout in Rio), talks a lot (just like a woman)… I think this tuti-fruity is a Closet Gay (and he may not know it).

I am changing your name to David O’dear… faggot he is, if you ask me!


Costinha

PS. Os Estados Unidos é uma merda e sempre será
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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
Well Costinha, I will admit that the 2 meter trannys patrolling around the Rua da Lavradio whistled at me quite a bit, but I was generally terrified by their towering, well-toned, torsoes. I don't go around molesting gringas and sticking my tongue in their mouths after the first 10 minutes of introduction, if that's what you qualify as passing for manhood!
Glad to have you contribute to the debate, Sr. Costinha. We will ruminate on your erudition at length, I am sure.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 26, 2008
Perhaps the responses that you are receiving to this particular line of questioning trend similarly because of the inherently and unjustly accusatory nature of the question themselves.


That would be a good theory, except that almost all the time this occurs, the tourist themselves brings this point up, not me. Precisely as you did above, I might note. So it often seems to me that you guys are FEELING accused before anyone actually sez anything.

BtW, seeing as how I am, for better or worse, one of Help's biggest public defenders, you don't have to defend you sexual activities to me. I fully agree that having sex is normal. My question has more to do with why you feel sexual tourism is anormal.

My situation was, in fact, different from what you portray, bottom line. When one sells or otherwise disposes of every stitch of ones personal belongings, house, cars, pets, furniture, books, et cetera, et cetera, to relocate and work in a foreign country, it hardly typifies him as a tourist.


Well, a lot of those German and Italian guys also live here. "Sexual tourist" is an accusatory term that's applicable to any gringo, whether or not one's here on a tourist visa. And you WERE here on a tourist visa, correct? From what you're saying here, you only looked to acquire a permanent visa through marriage after you got here. again, this is pretty typical behavior.

I don't know when or where I may have exactly categorized or typified Brasilian behavior as stereotypically exotic...


"Stereotypically" is not the term I used. "Exotic" is. It's implied in the idea that "Brazilian culture" must be unlike anything else in the world and autochthonous to Brazil, that Brazil, colonized by the West, speaking a European language and intimately connected to the West's economy and politics for over 500 years is somehow not "western".

PS. Os Estados Unidos é uma merda e sempre será


Fala a verdade, Costinha: você está doidinha para ter um grande e pulsante pau gringo neste seu cuzão, neh fofa? smilies/cheesy.gif

Costinha
written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 26, 2008
faggot he is, if you ask me!


Who the hell are you, peixe? Yoda? smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
Eh verdade que meu amigo Costinha quiera um beijinho do meu cacete, claro que sim! Acho que nao, Florzinha, nao eh possivel pra voce! Eu da la so pra os vagabundAS, nao pra voce.
David O’dear… Borboleta Cor de Rosa!
written by ....., March 26, 2008
E aí… Cabeção Latrina, QUER UMA LAVAGEM NAS TRIPAS…VIA SEU RABO?

TO NO CHÃO ROLANDO COM A SUA MÃE SENDO ENRABADA AQUI DO MEU LADO! A VELHA p**a ADORA UMA GOTA DE PORRA


Thaddeus Branquete… What are you looking for? Sperm Sample!

Bye faggots (viados)

Costinha

PS. Os Estados Unidos é uma merda e sempre será

David O’dear PLUS Tadeu Branquete…
written by ............, March 26, 2008
Ué… Where is the third stooge? Cadê o terceiro pateta?

Suas travesties FDP, vai lamber o pinto do vossos porteiros, nójentas!

Your truly,

Costinha da Costa
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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
Ahh, the Charmer of Rio. He too is sexually frustrated!

A Deus Costinha Boquete!
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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
I think Curly is waiting for us to conform to a stereotype from his sociology textbook.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 26, 2008
Costinha, you know they have a cure for tourette's syndrome these days. You don't have to suffer any longer.
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written by David Adair, March 26, 2008
It's not that I feel sexual tourism is anormal, PER SE, but rather that it does carry with it certain negative connotations which I would prefer not be heaped onto me simply because I happen to be (a) a foreign born traveler within a certain country, and (b) had sex a few times while I was there. I know officials in Brasil and Rio in particular are taking strides to reverse and downplay this trend (or at least are claiming to), and that it can be a hot button issue at times. In any case I think it can be useful to delineate clearly between the patrons of HELP, the true blue whoremongers around Copacabana and elsewhere, and a guy like myself, who would have taken a nice Brasilian girl for a monogamous relationship anyday had they not been so slippery and/or erratic, or simply after a VISA themselves (w/o proper compensation I might add.. *ahem).
My grand scheme I think was fairly atypical, as far as I could tell. As an individual with no corporate backing I simply took my tourist VISA, (the only kind of VISA I could finagle) and was planning either to violate it, if it could be done safely, or travel to another country for the six months I was required to be out of Brasil. To a place like, for example, Argentina, where I could also theoretically conduct business until required to leave by law and then return to Brasil. An interesting scheme hatched in theory, although it has it's challenges in practice. So, to be honest, I think I could live more easily with the moniker of "vagabond" rather than that of "tourist". If anything further developed to improve my VISA status, I would certainly have considered it. As far as the marriage visa was concerned, that was an application made to the US of A, not Brasil. She wouldn't marry me in Brasil. Loooong story. Not interesting.
Looks like David O’Dear Got His Second Air
written by .........., March 27, 2008
Talking head… I haven't heard an amorphous blob of a boob talk such a lame load of s**te like that since.. Well, actually, since you last opened your cakehole, you pimple-faced perpetual wedgie victim.

Tadeu Branquete… Go f.u.c.k yourself into oblivion, she-beast.

Costinha da Costa

PS Os Estados Unidos é uma merda e semper sera
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written by violetta congrats, March 27, 2008
The scary thing about this article is the enormous lack of an ability to differentiate and the arrogance of the author. Typical tourist attitude of someone you tries to label things out of a second row position!
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 27, 2008
Actually, David, you'd probably be suprised at how common your scheme was.

There are basically two types of local gringo temp residents in Rio: the corporate people and the non-corporate people. The non-corporates generally try to do what you did. Trying to bribe a cop at the airport is also pretty common.

The main problem with the "go to Argentina" thing is that it doesn't work for Yanks. Due to reciprocity, Yanks must renew their visa in their home country.
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written by David Adair, March 27, 2008
Yes I found that to be true, about the Visa thing. Oh well, I didn't necessarily have to go back to Brasil. I was just broke. Hence my penultimate return to the goodly ole US of A..

Last time I ever write a tourist piece to, apparently, an audience of Brasilians. Gringos love this bilge! Nice mastery of the language though!

The cake wasn't intended for you, windbag (aka Costinha).

For all the words I've wasted on this endeavor, I'll take my well-deserved c**kiness, my cake, and I'll eat it too. YUMMY! I've spent a week wasting my breath on differentiations; DAMN!

I'm going to go write for Gringoes.com.
David O’Dear
written by ......, March 27, 2008
You should sue your own butthole for having gayish tendencies, unless of course, you enjoy it!

Yours truly,

Costa
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, March 27, 2008
I've spent a week wasting my breath on differentiations; DAMN!


This may come as news to a budding journalist, but take it from a budding academic and fiction writer: that time "wasted" on thinking about differentiations is precisely what's going to keep your material fresh and competitive compared to that of all the two-bit, "Lonely Planet" stylists out there.

You wanna be a writer - and, better yet, get paid to do it - you better get used to thinking and rethinking what makes the world tick the way it does.

Isn't Costinha cute, btw? Don't you just want to cover him with slobbery kisses? smilies/cheesy.gif
Tadeu Branquete, again?
written by ,,,,, March 27, 2008
Sorry, but I don't make conversation with retards.

Would the dyslexic botched lobotomy patients in the room with the crisscross shoelace scars on their foreheads kindly improve the quality of their insults or drool in silence. Thanks.

Costinha da Costa
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written by David Adair, March 28, 2008
I do appreciate your advice, Dr. Blanchette, however I was hoping that we could could keep my personal sexual history and career ambitions out of a discussion, ostensibly, on Maracatu & the perceptions that surround it. I know it is difficult to ignore the gratuitous sexual nature that the conversation has taken, given Sr. Costa's insistent preoccupation and fascination with the nature of the anus, however I will take your professional counsel into consideration. I am talking this way, in essence, as a form of code, as I know the bulk of it will be lost on Sr. Costa's comprehension due to his limited understanding of anything that does not explicitly make reference to the anus or the plundering thereof.
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written by David Adair, March 28, 2008
I was thinking we could shave patterns into his skinny ass, give him a day at the hairdressers, then put him in a cute sweater and parade him down the street so that he may present himself as an attractive commodity to the street dogs who wouldn't otherwise want to sniff his tired, old butt.
The Talking Head of David O’Dear
written by ..,,.., March 28, 2008
Your personal sexual history? We already know that… You get your thrills at the “Largo da Lapa” so we all know what that entails, you homo.

Now, as to your career ambitions? Let’s say, you get your Maracatu in your Cú, you viadu.

David… You Know How Men Are From Mars And Women Are From Venus? Well, You're From Uranus!

Costinha
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written by David Adair, March 28, 2008
What did I say? Not a single sentence without explicit reference to Costinha's favorite windhole, The Anus. You're consumed with this obsession, man! We could be talking about interplanetary gaseous cloud formations and Costinha would be dozing obliviously, catatonic with incomprehension until the opportunity to interject with a joke about The Winds of Uranus arose!
Dear David O’Dear, Oh dear!
written by ..,,.., March 28, 2008
Oh look! Just 249621841 more days until I start caring what you think.

Costa

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