Brazzil

I really enjoy reading these types of articles, stressing the positive.
I am also married to a brasilian, and whilst I am not an american, I am from another english speaking country supporting the war in Iraq. The overwhelming support and hospitality of my Brasilian family has been inspiring and shows what love can overcome.
The more we mix, the better off we are.

I am glad that you had a good time on your stay in Brazil, and the guests at your son’s wedding made you feel at home.

What many Americans don’t understand is that Brazilians actually like most Americans that go to Brazil and the Americans who visit Brazil usually come back with fond memories of that country and they usually want to go back because they did like so much not only what they experienced during brief staying but also how they were treated by the Brazilian people.

Brazilians know how to differentiate and they have a different perception of the average American person and the representatives of the US government. I don’t know anyone who likes the current Bush administration, but that does not mean that they hate the American people.

The Bush/Cheney administration is hated not only in Brazil, but also around the world, but the Brazilian people have admiration for people such as Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Al Gore.

Brazilians know how to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys – in Bush’s case the idiots.

When you hear people say that Brazilians hate Americans - you should not take that comment too seriously.

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written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 04:37:33
I am glad that you had a good time on your stay in Brazil, and the guests at your son’s wedding made you feel at home.

What many Americans don’t understand is that Brazilians actually like most Americans that go to Brazil and the Americans who visit Brazil usually come back with fond memories of that country and they usually want to go back because they did like so much not only what they experienced during brief staying but also how they were treated by the Brazilian people.

Brazilians know how to differentiate and they have a different perception of the average American person and the representatives of the US government. I don’t know anyone who likes the current Bush administration, but that does not mean that they hate the American people.

The Bush/Cheney administration is hated not only in Brazil, but also around the world, but the Brazilian people have admiration for people such as Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Al Gore.

Brazilians know how to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys – in Bush’s case the idiots.

When you hear people say that Brazilians hate Americans - you should not take that comment too seriously.

Richard, I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you about one point. Being an american and living in the northeast of Brazil for a decade now I can tell you that there are large percentages of ignorant Brazilians that reside in the northeast that have no idea how to differentiate between the american gov't. and the american people. Naturally there are large percentages that know how to, but there are also large percentages that simply don't and swallow everything that Globo and BAND throw at them in their rabid anti-USA campaigns. I can give example, after example, after example, of so-called "educated" people that have gone on tilt with me concerning issues with the american gov't. as I have anything to do with that. And what makes matters worse in nearly every single case they have no idea that their very own gov't. does WORSE. But it's par for the course in northeast Brazil. If ignorance were petroleum here in the northeast Brazil would be bigger than OPEC!!

I am from Sao Paulo, and most of my family and friends live in Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais, and the South portion of Brazil, including Parana and so on...

I can't say that I have lived in the North of Brazil, since I know the north only as a tourist enjoying a nice vacation. The people from the north were usually nice to me when I did travel in that area of the world.

You also have to take in consideration that the people from the South of Brazil are usually much better educated and have a different perception of the rest of the world including the United States.

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"Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva had expressed admiration for Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and Cuba's Fidel Castro - both anti-American socialist dictators."

Of course II know to differentiate between the american gov't. and the american people and I hope americans can do the same about the moronic decisions our stupid president takes

"If ignorance were petroleum here in the northeast Brazil would be bigger than OPEC!!"
e.g. the character above mentioned.

If that was Bobão, he’d taken Flight…

Costinha

Bo, you are full of hate. I can only imagine how you criticized Brazil in order to make someone offend you. Definitely that's not the normal behavior. If you talk to people there using the same kind of language you use here and this self-righteous tone, as if you could teach others the "right way", chances are that you deserved whatever offenses came your way.

simply put,,,,the much coveted "green card" for anti-american brazilians is so desired.......

For an educated man as you are or seem to be among others on this forum, i find it funny that you Claim that brazilians have class & that most know ho to distinguish between the americans & their govt.
i have to agree w/ Bo somehat as to the ignorance of brazilians in general whether from the northeast or metro areas as you. BRazilians are just plain rude ina ction, not so much in words.
I have been there & lived ther for a # of months & left on my own accord because i couldn't fathem the small mentality that brazilians have as a whole educated & non.
As i know & you should know brazilians are front men/woman, they put up facades, they smile in your face but behind your back they laugh, etc. As if there ios nothing to laugh at brazilians.
If your claims are accurate, then explain why brazilians after over 185 still resent/hate the Portuguese to no end, the educated people like you should understnd/distinguish things better than the ignorant, but it seem to me and many othes that i know of that, that's not the case.
Of course at the end of the day, the Portuguese really don't give a hoot about what they are thought of, & they should not, because when you're on the top why would you care as most brazilians do. They carry themselves in an examplatory manner, but of course they can't be given credit for that, only brazilians take credit for the good, the bad is always someone's fault.

That “Eagle” really is a “Vulture” in disguise!

Better yet, I don't consider you a vulture… I consider you something vultures would eat.

Costinha

PS: Hehehehe

Genius does what it must, talent does what it can, and you had best do what you're told.


Costinha

PS: Hehehehe

If you talk to people there using the same kind of language you use here and this self-righteous tone, as if you could teach others the "right way", chances are that you deserved whatever offenses came your way.

Ah, you hypocritical sanctimonious ape, you just spent two days dedicated to defending societal engineering, kidnapping indigenous children and indoctrinating them, or in your exact word “teaching the ignorants” the “right way” and the “ugly truth”, and now you come here give Bo a sermon o being self righteous?

CLASSIC!

yes its true,,,that south american leftists,communists,criminals,guevarraistas,traffickers ,fidelistas,chavezistas, and other impotent tin pot bluffing blowhards,,,do not like the u.s.a.,,, and most americans find these little idiotas "insignificant oddities.....

CT said: "For an educated man as you are or seem to be among others on this forum, i find it funny that you Claim that brazilians have class & that most know ho to distinguish between the americans & their govt."

I am talking about my family and friends in general, and also a large part the people who I socialize with in Brazil.

The democratic system in Brazil brought a lot of people from the lower classes to the top, but this has happened only in the last 30 years.

Even then anyone who belongs to the old elite can spot the nouveau riche a mile away just by the way they act and the things that they talk about.

But as a general rule the people who belong to the old elite had class, but you always have the exceptions to the rule.

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I assume by the tone of your posting that you are Portuguese from Portugal, and you must be insulted because Brazilians tell jokes about the Portuguese.

Sorry, but I can't help you on that one.


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Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up." This is documented in sociological studies of immigrant Brazilian women in the United States and it is also true for women in Brazil. No one would say abything bad to the family of a trophy husband, not for a while at least.

So right.
- Brazilians harshly criticize America, but guess where most Brazilians go A) on vacation B) enter illegally C) ready to pay around US$ 10'000 to be smuggled to......HELL....apparently ! Where is the Brazilian common sense ? Do they have any, even basic ?

- Brazilians criticze America to produce ethanol from corn, but Brazil is going to produce ethanol from corn AND biodiesel from soyabeans. To the tune of 15 % of the annual production....by 2010 ! Where is the logic in the critics ? Hmmmmmm.

- Brazilians find quite normal to charge heavy import taxes on goods, but not so when others do the same. Where is the Brazilian
common sense ? Do they have any ?

- Brazilians criticize both EU and America at the WTO, but they talk only about agriculture, never about industrial goods or financial services. Guess why.......knowing the Brazilian common sense...or lack of it !

- EU and America are by far the biggest Brazilians trade partners, with whom they have a huge trade surplus....but that is NOT enough ! Brazilian common sense....or lack of it....once more ?

-The same could be said for China and their textiles. Brazil imports 1 % (YESS ONE PERCENT) of the Brazilian textile industry....but that is too much already and you have put some imports restrictions !!!!! Brazilian logic....again ?

- Brazil critizes the weakness of the US$ but guess what they bought on a daily basis for over 60 % of their foreign currencies reserves ! The US$.....of course ! Smile ! Brazilians have great....long term visions....with their common sense !

- Brazilians are proud to have cut their SELIC rate 17 or 18 times. Rates are apparently at a record low......but still by far the WORLD
HIGHEST.....after inflation. Nothing to be so proud....in my view. Laugh....laugh !

Ohhhhhhh....despite the apparent recent strength of the Brazilian currency, it is still 40 % LOWER than a decade ago....against the weak US$, because against the EURO currencies it is still 70 % lower than a decade ago. Where is the strength.....outside opf the short term.
Did you forgot that you cut 12 ZEROES (YESSSSSS TWELVE ZEROES) to your currency during the last 70 years or so ??????

Lets face it, long term your currency was/is not any better than the currency of your cousin (shortly brother) the clown Chavez !!!!!

Do the maths....if you can !

Do you really believe it is any different......for brazilians males ??????

It is certainly a way to get a legal working and residence permit...either in the USA, EU or Japan.
Guess why Brazilians dont marry Chineses, Indians, Pakistanese, Indonesians or Africans.....just to name a few !

The ugly americans are coming out of the woodwork…

I am yet to meet one singular woman interested in americans typically known as obnoxious, loud, arrogant, rude, no class and utmost, stupid bastards. Most Brasilian women cherish their initial perception of americans.

To my midget american friends I'd like to run into you again, sometime when I'm driving and you're walking. Yeah… Americans have the popularity of bubonic plague.

Good day,

Costinha

My visualization of you is of an acne-encrusted, balding, 35-stone, 4'7" dwarf in his parent's basement - surrounded by semen-stained socks and old copies of BESTIALITY TODAY. Hehehe!


Good day,

Costinha

Great article by a nationally syndicated talk show host, columnist, author, ethicist, and public speaker, Dennis Prager titled: "The World Doesn't Hate America, the Left Does"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2007/11/27/the_world_doesnt_hate_america,_the_left_does

You are a gin-sodden pitiable excuse for anything other than a rancid f**kweasle!

Yours truly,

Costinha

you just spent two days dedicated to defending societal engineering, kidnapping indigenous children and indoctrinating them, or in your exact word “teaching the ignorants” the “right way” and the “ugly truth”, and now you come here give Bo a sermon o being self righteous?

First, I just asked what is right, that the children go to school. I never said anything about kidnapping. Second, I said they need the knowledge in order to defend themselves and their interests, what is wrong about that?

The problem is that Anglo-saxons can't imagine others as human beings. For you Indians aren't people like you and me, so they need to receive "special treatment" because they "special people". They can't live in a bubble forever. I say empowerment to them through education. You, on the other hand, have a problem with that.

Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."

I think it depends on the type of woman, usually those without resources or means try to find a good marriage to "solve" their lives, and usually that means anybody that appears to have plenty of money, not limited to "white American males". That's one of the ways human traffickers manage to fool women into moving to Europe to sexually exploit them later.

"Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 16:24:52
I assume by the tone of your posting that you are Portuguese from Portugal, and you must be insulted because Brazilians tell jokes about the Portuguese.
Sorry, but I can't help you on that one".

-First i am not Portuguese but even if i was i rather be one of them than one of yours, i respect them immensely compared to you & yours. Must i say it again. Although in prior posts ypu have claimed your portuguese roots when it suits you, but now youtalk about my tone, my tone is no different than yours, the problem ricardo is that you are no different than the old/new elite you have just proven that.
You need not say sorry about the jokes brazilians promulgate ont he portuguese i know them to well, as i said i lived there for awhile. but i got news for you if you ahven't beeen to Portugal i suggest you do, they have brzilian jokes too even here in the u.s., but i guess since your such a part of the high class you really don't know what's going on in the lowlands. It truly is a pity that at the end of the day that small minded/low self esteem/confidence still exists in your bloodline.
you are all the same.

p.s. Got news for you tell me wher ein brzil or the u.s. & portugal do you ever see a portuguese person working foror paying rent to a brazilian. That speaks volumes in itself, all that class & at the end of the day they're asking for favors.

Abe, the Ape whined:

First, I just asked what is right, that the children go to school. I never said anything about kidnapping. Second, I said they need the knowledge in order to defend themselves and their interests, what is wrong about that?

The problem is that Anglo-saxons can't imagine others as human beings. For you Indians aren't people like you and me, so they need to receive "special treatment" because they "special people". They can't live in a bubble forever. I say empowerment to them through education. You, on the other hand, have a problem with that.

No my little dumbass ape, I was actually defending the work of some missionaries related to the original article, when you came crashing in, (knuckles scrapping the floor as usual) saying that there are SOME that wish to keep education from the “ignorants” (your word) to safeguard firstworld lifestyles. I asked you, repeatedly, WHO? and you have slithered and slimed around since.

Then you say indian children should be forced into Brazilian schools. The point was raised that this sort of social engineering has had disastrous results in other nations, and you dismissed those results predictably, because as you said, (and have repeated here) “they are Anglo-Saxon nations” which shows you to be not only pig headed with facts, but a bigot as well. Shelly and I have both honored the position quite effectively that THEY (indigenous groups) should determine their own destiny (self-determination is what most indigenous groups call it) but you seem to think they shouldn’t be given this power because, again, you claim they are “ignorants” and living in a “dead end culture”.

The debate is here folks for all to see… (sorry for the intrusion)
http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/10029/41/#jc_writeComment

Ape will twist and manipulate all the facts (although he mostly uses inuendos) he wishes, but it’s plain to see for most that he´s a raving lunatic, and in good company with the selfprofessed dead dog skull f**ker, Costinha..

they have brzilian jokes too even here in the u.s.,

Who cares? Only someone with low self-esteem would be bothered by that. CT, what's your point again?

"Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 16:17:05
CT said: "For an educated man as you are or seem to be among others on this forum, i find it funny that you Claim that brazilians have class & that most know ho to distinguish between the americans & their govt."
I am talking about my family and friends in general, and also a large part the people who I socialize with in Brazil".

-Well you, your family & friends do not represent the whole of brazilfo they?-

"The democratic system in Brazil brought a lot of people from the lower classes to the top, but this has happened only in the last 30 years".

-You sound like you were one of the one's that benefited, hence your illogical comments-.

"Even then anyone who belongs to the old elite can spot the nouveau riche a mile away just by the way they act and the things that they talk about.
But as a general rule the people who belong to the old elite had class, but you always have the exceptions to the rule".

-I'm glad that you can look in the mirror, must i say more.-

will twist and manipulate all the facts

The facts are all there for anybody to read. My affirmations about keeping them in the ignorance are valid, because it doesn't make any sense unless you have some vested interest in their ignorance. Why keep someone in the stone age? Then I proposed their children got educated, because the adults would be hard to have their habits changed. Why? Because they would be able to participate in the society in an effective manner! They would have access to the knowledge humanity has created and would use it as they see fit! What is wrong with that!?

You want to see facts? I have Indian blood and nothing disastrous happened in my family. It is only disastrous in a racially segregated society, where, in fact, the Indians would be forced to live in a "mental reservation" even when out of the physical reservation.

You are completely ignorant about the history of Brazil and Brazil today.

No, sadly I am learning far more about the reason why Brazil has such problems, and typically, it is because of people like you.

You seem to think that no one has a right to their own decision, and that what YOU think is best, is what is best. Well, that’s the exact attitude your beloved US is doing in Iraq, spreading democracy to the “ignorants” (using your word again) and I just find it odd that you think this ilk of nation building is repugnant, but feel free to rush into any indigenous village you see fit, not ask them what they want, force their children to schools (Brazilian schools at that – a fate worst that ignorance if you ask me) and that is somehow civilized. Forcing your will, weather well intentioned or not, is not civil.

I said it there and I will repeat it here for the thousandth time (although Senhor Cachaça still wont clue in), if they want it, great they are entitled to everything Brazilians are entitled too (which isn’t much really) but if they don’t want it, you can’t force it on them. That’s the point you always seem to miss. Admit it Ape, you’re a bigot, and a dumb one at that.

God help Brazil.

"CT
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 19:09:21
they have brazilian jokes too even here in the u.s.,
Who cares? Only someone with low self-esteem would be bothered by that.
CT, what's your point again?

-My point is to ricardo you zrazilian latoeiro, he thinks by reinforcing stereotypes that that has or makes him look classy just like you. If he truily just like you had any class he wouldn't even had said anything.
So my point is jokes or no jokes, at the end of the day $ this is what counts.
And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do. We are proud of who we are regardless, mistakes or no mistakes. Unlike you, you seem to suffer from the same mental disease that afflicts all brazilians, your DNA.
I find it funny that most of you can't stand it when someone stands up or defends the Portuguese, you just have to have the last word, speak over people, etc.
I also find it funny that when brazilians have two cents to rub or a tinb hut they act as if no one else inthe world ever had $ or a roof over their heads.
As classy as ricardo believes he is, i don't understand whey he would be living in the u.s. when he can live right next to the old rich elite & walk around as if he owned the country. I wonder why just like you.

And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do. We are proud of who we are regardless, mistakes or no mistakes. Unlike you, you seem to suffer from the same mental disease that afflicts all brazilians, your DNA.

If you don't have any self-esteem problem why are you so worried about what we think? And why are you justifying "who you are" with something completely external and out of your control like DNA? It contradicts what you have just written, because you say that you create no excuses and then you create one.

If you don't have any self-esteem problem why are you so worried about what we think? And why are you justifying "who you are" with something completely external and out of your control like DNA?

Hey dickhead, if you are going to ask questions, first learn to answer them. I´m still waiting for you to respond to who "some" are, and what the "ugly truth" is? Dumbass

You seem to think that no one has a right to their own decision, and that what YOU think is best, is what is best.

So you are saying that school for Indians is bad? This is why Anglo-saxons fail whenever they try to integrate peoples, you just don't get it. You don't see that by treating people differently you will only keep them apart. The only thing that holds the US together, and I believe the same applies for other Anglo-saxon countries, is the economy. For now all those peoples perceive the idea of "staying together" as their best interest. I wonder what would happen if the US passed through some grave crisis. Hahaha.

but if they don’t want it, you can’t force it on them.

We can, because children can't stay of school.

Admit it Ape, you’re a bigot, and a dumb one at that.

You are the one that have been calling me "Ape" ever since I told you I had Indian blood. Who is the bigot? Interesting.

Now here’s a sentence to be proud of. Ape, take a bow!

My affirmations about keeping them in the ignorance are valid, because it doesn't make any sense unless you have some vested interest in their ignorance.

CLASSIC!

So you are saying that school for Indians is bad?

Nope.
If they want it they can have it. Is that any clearer for you? Dumbass?

Now you answer ME a question (although you’ve proven over and over again this is not your strong suit). If you contact a group and they don’t want YOUR education, what do you do?

You are the one that have been calling me "Ape" ever since I told you I had Indian blood. Who is the bigot? Interesting.

Actually, I´ve been calling you Ape for a lot longer than that...

"CT, the low self-esteem gringo
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 19:44:39
And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do. We are proud of who we are regardless, mistakes or no mistakes. Unlike you, you seem to suffer from the same mental disease that afflicts all brazilians, your DNA.
If you don't have any self-esteem problem why are you so worried about what we think? And why are you justifying "who you are" with something completely external and out of your control like DNA? It contradicts what you have just written, because you say that you create no excuses and then you create one.

-who said that i was worried about what you think, i was simply answering ricardo, which i felt warranted a resposne. hat has nothing to do about worrying. Your & ricardo problem seesm to be that it's ok for you to say & do &yet unable to accept criticim, bt it's ok for you & him to say whatevr it pleases you guys.
At the end of the day, you guys just can't phstom someone standing up for those that really matter/count or have made contributions to this world regardless whether you like it or not.
What excuses have i c reated, i simply made astatement which is true compare to your & yours. I am by no means justifying who i am or not, i was simply answering ricardao, he made an assumption that wasn't true, because as i said when someone stands up for someone else especially the Portuguese, brazilians like him & you seem to have a problem with that.
As i said b4 if ricardo & you were truly aware of what is said about you Yuca's he woul've never even made tha statement, even though he feels he has class.
i rally think ricardao should change his name so that he can feel better about himself & you to lets say a german/italian name, because after all it's just so great to be part of the most evil people that has walked this earth & the italians, lets see what have they done, can't think of anything right now, so please enilighten me.
You see i know th brazilian nuances all to well, It's like an unwritten code among all when someone speaks highly about themselves or others, bring them down, since they can't compete with them, hence the potshots, Sad, Sad.
so Mr. Yuca, please responde to Gringo, he's waiting fo ryour answer.

p.s. on another note, for someone that seems to be well read, i'm sure at the end of the day, you probably live in a hole in the whole, drives a "lata", eats rice & beans everyday, can't imagine a country that has a large coast they don't even it fish on a daily basis, i wonder why, classy people don't fish, they just eat & complain.

Looks like the Gringo once again lost another argument, and his ego is hurt… BUAA…. BUAA…. BUAA….hehehehe!

Gringão, the only thing you have is a big ego. Go discover the center of the universe, I know you will be disappointed to discover you are not it, dickhead.

What we need here is a plumber, so the next time Gringo is flushed he won’t float back into the latrine!

I love you man,

Costinha

I hope your DNA isn't responsible for your spelling, because that would be pretty much messed up.

so great to be part of the most evil people that has walked this earth

Die böse böse Deutscher. What would be of Americans without Germans?

The only Brasilian woman I know who sees her foreign husband as a trophy, is Shelly. But then again, she is more like a hyena.

What do you expect, no self-respected man would wanna be seen with that witch. So there comes the typical English guy, pale, facial pimples, big nose, no chin and f**ked-up teeth but with a fat wallet. Well, she jumped at it!

Way to go Shelly!

Costinha

"CT
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 20:07:53
I hope your DNA isn't responsible for your spelling, because that would be pretty much messed up.
so great to be part of the most evil people that has walked this earth
Die böse böse Deutscher. What would be of Americans without Germans?"

-lets not worry about my spelling as much as yours, we all just try to type as quickly as we think, so lets leave the small things aside.
-You really meant to say what would be of america without the brits/dutch/spanish, right?
You seem to know it all or believe you do just like Mr.Ricardao & at the end of the day, i still live in a better house, drive a better car & have a better job, i'm sure of it-
So lets stop going around in circles, i sure wouldn't want to be GErman & thank god i'm not, but you seem to just like costinha, are you too related, i can see the resemblance.
So finish answering Gringo.

Gringão, the only thing you have is a big ego

Funny, Ape thinks I have self esteem issues, maybe when you are both cutting my lawn next week you can trade notes.

On another note, the germans are the largest immigrant groupt to the u.s. & even though of the mass migrations that this country as had, they still outnumber all the others. And a sin brazil a large mass concentration.
so, lets see i wonder why, because germany gave them such a great lifestyle among other europeans that they had to migrate en mass.

I am calling Rotor-Rooter to unblock the latrine. Gringo is like an extra solid hard caca on my bowl. And now, I come to find out that Gringo is the only known human being to have attempted suicide by flushing himself down the toilet.

Costa

"CT - Cocô Total
written by ..., 2008-01-21 12:55:59
Genius does what it must, talent does what it can, and you had best do what you're told.
Costinha
PS: Hehehehe"

-Well we all know that you're not talking about ou. Thanks for th compliment.
So now turn th egas oven on a little higher.

Hey Ape,

I answered you question above, now answer mine. What do you do if a native group doesn’t want your education? I’m waiting. Although I’m not holding my breathe that anything even remotely intelligent will come from you tonight.

I’m Done!

Ya, this is a good hour to secure your parking turf for the night. Don’t forget, you get a tip if you clean the bird s**t of the windows while guarding the car.

written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 18:53:14

Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."



I think it depends on the type of woman, usually those without resources or means try to find a good marriage to "solve" their lives, and usually that means anybody that appears to have plenty of money, not limited to "white American males". That's one of the ways human traffickers manage to fool women into moving to Europe to sexually exploit them later.

Your statement is true only to an extent. There is also the issue of pretige. Being married to a white American carries prestige among Brazilian women in the US, reagrdless of social class. For American men, Brazilian women represent "docility," the submissive wives they cannot find in American women. It is a marriage of desire for prestige with male dominance of patriarchy.

Your statement is true only to an extent. There is also the issue of pretige. Being married to a white American carries prestige among Brazilian women in the US, reagrdless of social class. For American men, Brazilian women represent "docility," the submissive wives they cannot find in American women. It is a marriage of desire for prestige with male dominance of patriarchy.

"written by ..., 2008-01-21 18:42:52
My visualization of you is of an acne-encrusted, balding, 35-stone, 4'7" dwarf in his parent's basement - surrounded by semen-stained socks and old copies of BESTIALITY TODAY. Hehehe!


Good day,"


I wonder if you are projecting yourself in this description. It is usually the case. It is like the real Costinha, who used to make fun of gays all the time. Wasn't he gay himself?

Costinha

"Besides many Brazilians have class....
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 04:37:33"

-What a joke, what you really meant to say is that brazilians are unclassy, they just act as if they do.
Since you were born in brazil, that explains why you seem to lack it. Hence your migration to the u.s., i don't see much improvement mr. Yuca.

If you were twice as smart as you are now, you'd be chronically stupid. And don't thank me for insulting you. It was my pleasure.

Costinha

Like most Americans, you have lost your fingertip grip on reality and have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy. May God have mercy upon your soul, my freakish friend.

Costinha

What a s**tty frozen wasteland… Canada sucks, and Canadians suck hard. What kind of culture do those miserable people have, Igloos?

Only rejects and draft dodgers live in such damned cold and boring place. If I was George Bush, I would invade Canada and get it over with!

You, Ricardinho & a brazilian must be related.
All that class rolled into one, wow.

"Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."
written by ch.c., 2008-01-21 18:37:23
Do you really believe it is any different......for brazilians males ??????
It is certainly a way to get a legal working and residence permit...either in the USA, EU or Japan.
Guess why Brazilians dont marry Chineses, Indians, Pakistanese, Indonesians or Africans.....just to name a few"!

-AGree 100% & when they get what they want men & women, they leave, they have no mercy on what's left behind. I have read & heard of countless stories over & over again. These re the "docile" people until the $ makes them as cold as ice.-

Canada?
Since you went your rant, funny how "Nordic" countries such as Norway, Sweden ( countries that are equally frozen like Canada)
and Canada itself are consisently ranked by The UN as the best countries to live in. You are obviously from the Excited States of America so please thank Canada if you spoke on the telephone today..took any insulin.drank any Canada Dry to go with your redneck moonshine...

You are so bright. Ha, ha, ha, ha. What a stupid ass. Mus have an IQ of a chicken. Not even a fraction as funny as the real Costinha.

I have Portuguese roots and I am proud of it, and the most recent Portuguese ancestors that I have, arrived in Brazil about 200 years ago. And I have Portuguese ancestors not only on the Andrada e Silva side of the family, but also on the Souza Queiroz, and Vergueiro to just mention a few traditional Portuguese family names that I have among my ancestors.

I am also a descendant of Dom João I and Dom João III, and both were kings of Portugal from the Aviz Dynasty.

I am a descendant of Jose Bonifacio de Andrada e Silva and also of his brother Martim Francisco – and both of them were grandsons (bisnetos) of the 7th Duke of Bragança.

The two Emperors of Brazil also were descendants of the 7th Duke of Bragança, since the 8th Duke of Bragança became Dom João IV king of Portugal.

Jose Bonifacio’s great-grandfather (bisavo) was the youngest brother of the 8th Duke of Bragança who became Dom João IV king of Portugal.


Souza Queiroz and Vergueiro

Francisco Antonio de Souza Queiroz married Antonia Eufrosina Campos Vergueiro de Souza Queiroz, a daughter of Nicolau Pereira de Campos Vergueiro, a Senator, and D. Maria Angelica de Vasconcelos de Campos Vergueiro (following is some information about Senador Vergueiro, one of my grandmother's great/grandfathers).

Antonia Eufrosina Campos Vergueiro was my grandmother’s - grandmother.

Senador Vergueiro

In 1778, Nicolau Pereira de Campos Vergueiro was born in Portugal, in Val-da-Porca, Província de Tráz-os-Montes. When he was 25 years old he decided to try his luck in Brazil. He arrived in São Paulo in 1803, and started practicing law with the Arouche brothers, Manuel Joaquim Ornellas, and Manuel Eufrásio de Azevedo Marques. These five lawyers were the only lawyers practicing in this small city of 20 thousand people, including 6 thousand slaves.

Vergueiro adapted very well to the way of life of the São Paulo society. It did not take long before he met Maria Angélica de Vasconcelos. She was a beautiful woman and he was also impressed by her culture. Her family also had prestige, influence and a major fortune. After a short courting period of a few months, he married her.

When Emperor D. Pedro I gave the order for the Constituent Assembly dissolution on November 12, 1823, various dep**ados ended up in prison including José Bonifácio de Andrada e Silva, his brothers Antonio Carlos and Martim Francisco, and Nicolau Vergueiro. The Andrada brothers were sent to exile in France, but Vergueiro was allowed to stay in Brazil and continue his career as a dep**ado.

Vergueiro had such a great rep**ation that finally in 1828 he became a senator representing the State of Minas Gerais. In 1828, he was the politician with the most prestige in Brazil.

When Dom Pedro I abdicated the Brazilian crown on April 7, 1831, in favor of his five year old son, the future Dom Pedro II, based on the 1824 Constitution, congress had to elect three people to the provisory regency. The dep**ados and senators chose the following people to be regents: the Brigadier Francisco de Lima e Silva (to represent the armed forces), José Joaquim Carneiro de Campos—Marquês de Caravelas (to represent the aristocracy), and Senador Nicolau Pereira de Campos Vergueiro (because of his prestige as a senator).

When congress elected the permanent regents in 1832, he asked congress to not include him as one of the regents. He still was a senator and a minister of the empire.


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I consider myself a Brazilian, and I have many Portuguese ancestors, but it does not bother me when people say Portuguese jokes, or Brazilian jokes.

By the way, I never heard a joke about Brazilians and if you have some jokes just tell us – maybe we can laugh with you if they are funny.

I have a sense of humor, and many of my friends and fellow Brazilians also have a good sense of humor.


PS: You also said: “Got news for you tell me where in brazil or the u.s. & portugal do you ever see a portuguese person working for or paying rent to a brazilian.”

I guess you have never been in Newark, New Jersey.


.

CT said: “And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do.”

In my opinion you should, because when your country is living out of borrowed money – about 90 percent of the savings of the rest of the world – and you think you are rich – then you are in a complete state of delusion.

Today the American economy to stay afloat it depends of the charity of major investors from around the world to the tune of trillions of US dollars. Anybody can play the “I am rich game” with borrowed money.

Today even the biggest American financial institutions such as Merryl Lynch, City Group, Bear Stearns, and many others are going around the world begging to borrow money to keep these American institutions afloat.

I live in the United States and I know I am aboard of the Titanic – and this ship is just about hitting the iceberg head on.

I did your first posting and answered it. But after I posted the information and continued reading the following posts then I realized that you are a mental case. I can take you apart and shred you into pieces, but that would be a waste of time.

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Cn.c said: “Brazilians criticze America to produce ethanol from corn, but Brazil is going to produce ethanol from corn AND biodiesel from soyabeans. To the tune of 15 % of the annual production....by 2010 ! Where is the logic in the critics ? Hmmmmmm. “

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Ricardo: You can bet there’s a lot of American money behind the investments that you are talking about.

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Cn.c said: “Brazilians find quite normal to charge heavy import taxes on goods, but not so when others do the same. Where is the Brazilian common sense? Do they have any?”

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Ricardo: I used to be in international trade and there were a lot of products that we could not import to the United States because of all kinds of duties, taxes, and other barriers.

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Ch.c said: “Brazilians criticize both EU and America at the WTO, but they talk only about agriculture, never about industrial goods or financial services. Guess why....... knowing the Brazilian common sense...or lack of it!”

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Ricardo: Because Brazilians are selling lots of Embraer airplanes into the US market, and services – the best models in the world today are Brazilians and they work in fashion shows in the US (as long they are being paid in euros).

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Ch.c said: “EU and America are by far the biggest Brazilians trade partners, with whom they have a huge trade surplus....but that is NOT enough ! Brazilian common sense....or lack of it....once more ?

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Ricardo: Not for long, since in the coming years Asia it will become the most important market for Brazil.

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Ch.c said: “The same could be said for China and their textiles. Brazil imports 1 % (YESS ONE PERCENT) of the Brazilian textile industry....but that is too much already and you have put some imports restrictions !!!!! Brazilian logic....again ?

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Ricardo: In today’s global economy you have to fight for everything you can get.

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Ch.c said: “Brazil criticizes the weakness of the US$ but guess what they bought on a daily basis for over 60 % of their foreign currencies reserves ! The US$.....of course ! Smile ! Brazilians have great....long term visions....with their common sense !

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Ricardo: Brazil has been accumulating US dollar to pay its foreign debts which was mostly in US dollars, and they are also accumulating US dollars in an effort to keep the US dollar from declining even faster against the Real.

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Ch.c said: “Brazilians are proud to have cut their SELIC rate 17 or 18 times. Rates are apparently at a record low......but still by far the WORLD HIGHEST.....after inflation. Nothing to be so proud....in my view. Laugh....laugh !

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Ricardo: Because Brazil had this high interest rate that prevented Brazil from investing heavily in the sub prime mess.

And today the Brazilian institutions started lending money to mortgage for the long term as never before, but the Brazilian market is not a full of landmines like the US and the mess that the US exported to other countries from around the world.

If anything, Brazil has a young market with great prospects for the future.

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Ch.c said: “Ohhhhhhh....despite the apparent recent strength of the Brazilian currency, it is still 40 % LOWER than a decade ago....against the weak US$, because against the EURO currencies it is still 70 % lower than a decade ago. Where is the strength.....outside of the short term.

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Ricardo: In the near future Brazil looks like one of the best places to people to invest their money if you are thinking about the future.

And if the Brazilian Central Bank stop buying US dollars and start buying euros instead in no time the US dollar and the real would be trading 1:1 ratio.

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Ch.c said: Did you forgot that you cut 12 ZEROES (YESSSSSS TWELVE ZEROES) to your currency during the last 70 years or so ??????

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Ricardo: No I did not forget. (The Cruzeiro, the New Cruzeiro, the Cruzado, the New Cruzado, the Cruz Credo, and finally the Real.)

But we are talking about what happened in the past.

Now it will be the turn of the United States to adopt its new currency and cut many zeros, the New US Dollar. You can read about it at the following website:

The New United States Currency - The New US Dollar.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...adid=86842

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Hi,
I read the first comment above and agreed. The comments that followed really shocked me. Then I started looking at the other parts of www.brazzil.com and discovered the same thing. These forums develop into slinging matches between a few people. Can we get back to being a little more hugging and embracing. All this negative energy is really draining. Duane.

"PS: You also said: “Got news for you tell me where in brazil or the u.s. & portugal do you ever see a portuguese person working for or paying rent to a brazilian.”
I guess you have never been in Newark, New Jersey."

-i am very well aware of Newark, NJ among other neighborhoods, that's exactly why i said what i said & ig got ir tight hte first time, brazilians pay rent to th eportuguese among others, not the other way around, obviosuly if reallly knew what's going on you would even have said such an ignorat statement.-
Please spare me your b/s you're just like the rest.

Can we get back to being a little more hugging and embracing. All this negative energy is really draining. Duane.

That is a lovely post and I wholeheartedly agree with ya. Thanks.

"Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-22 05:34:12
CT said: “And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do.”
In my opinion you should, because when your country is living out of borrowed money – about 90 percent of the savings of the rest of the world – and you think you are rich – then you are in a complete state of delusion.
Today the American economy to stay afloat it depends of the charity of major investors from around the world to the tune of trillions of US dollars. Anybody can play the “I am rich game” with borrowed money.
Today even the biggest American financial institutions such as Merryl Lynch, City Group, Bear Stearns, and many others are going around the world begging to borrow money to keep these American institutions afloat.
I live in the United States and I know I am aboard of the Titanic – and this ship is just about hitting the iceberg head on.

--SO WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? I HOPE YOU HAVE AN OPEN TICKET.-

"did your first posting and answered it. But after I posted the information and continued reading the following posts then I realized that you are a mental case. I can take you apart and shred you into pieces, but that would be a waste of time".

-REALLY, MR. RETARDAO GO RIGHT AHEAD, TRY ME, I WANT TO HEAR THE EARTH SHAKE, OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD SAVE IT FOR WHEN YOU GET BACK TO BRAZIL SOON & USE IT ON YOUR POLITICIANS-

NOW I AGREE WITH YOU THAT YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF LINEAGE/ANCESTRY, BUT PUTTING THAT ASIDE.
SOMETHING MUST OF GONE HORRIBLEY WRONG WITH THE GENE POOL ALONG THE WAY, HENCE YOU.

SINCE YOU ACT SO SURPRISED THAT SUCH AN INFORMED PERSON AS YOU AFTER ALL THESE YEARS CLAIMS TO FIND IT SURPRISING THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW OF ANY BRAZILIAN JOKES, WOW, I WONDER WHY, SO HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THOUSANDS & HOPE YOUR ABLE TO LAUGH AT YOURSLEF-

-A friend of mine came back from Portugal and told me he asked a Portuguese what time does it get dark there. Here in Brazil it means ‘what time does the sun sets’. The answer was ‘It never gets dark here, because when the sun sets the city lights are turned on’. Maybe he was thinking that in Brazil we don’t have electricity".

-Three Brazilian Soldiers-
Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."
"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"
His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.
Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"-

-I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO OVERWHELM YOU SO A COUPLE WILL DO.

We got to make things right. Perhaps we can arrange for you to get together with Gringo and play “Plug the Hole.” The real question is who will plug whose hole???

However, based on Gringo’s past history I believe he prefers to be the one to be plugged. That’s just the way he has been and still is.

Nice talking to you.

Costinha

The comments that followed really shocked me. Then I started looking at the other parts of www.brazzil.com and discovered the same thing

This site never was a good place for people interested in Brazil, partly because the forums aren't moderated. It harms the image of Brazil because of the amount of misinformation posted here by the usual bigots and perpetuates the same old stereotypes.

I agree with Duane hamilton, This site never was a good place for people interested in Brazil, partly because the forums aren't moderated. It harms the image of Brazil because of the amount of misinformation posted here by the usual bigots and perpetuates the same old stereotypes. a total waste of time and resources.....

I actually used to think you may have a few good points, and halfway intelligent, until I just read some of your responses to numerous statements made by Ch.C and others. I'll only take a few, for illustration purposes, but man, you really are way off base on the vast majority of things you have said.

Today the American economy to stay afloat it depends of the charity of major investors from around the world to the tune of trillions of US dollars. Anybody can play the “I am rich game” with borrowed money.

Anyone can play the "I am rich" game? Well, tell us, why don't they? Why doesn't Brazil, India, Russia, and the other 190 countries on planet earth play the "I am rich game"? I suppose that everyone just decided that the U.S. was the best place to invest, and the dollar one of the safest currencies to buy, by dumb luck? In the entire history of the NYSE an investor over ANY 10 year period has NEVER lost money, and that includes the 1920's during the stock market crash! Foreign investors know that the U.S. has not only been and still is one of, if not the MOST, safest places in the world to invest since 1950. The american economy is so big that it simply can withstand what for other countries would be major economic disasters. Imagine if what happened to Enron in the states happened here in Brazil to Petrobras....talk about a disaster.

I live in the United States and I know I am aboard of the Titanic – and this ship is just about hitting the iceberg head on.

LOL...can you please let us know when that happens? I know you're waiting anxiously, but please.

Cn.c said: “Brazilians criticze America to produce ethanol from corn, but Brazil is going to produce ethanol from corn AND biodiesel from soyabeans. To the tune of 15 % of the annual production....by 2010 ! Where is the logic in the critics ? Hmmmmmm. “

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Ricardo: You can bet there’s a lot of American money behind the investments that you are talking about.

Do Brazilians ever take responsibilty for anything? When people complain about the Amazon being destroyed brazilians claim it's because of multi-nationals....well who in the hell is allowing these mult-nationals to destroy it? Who is allowing american money, and money from many other countries, produce ethanol in the way they are here in Brazil? Is Brazil not responsible for themselves? Can't they enforce their own laws? Can other countries and investors simply do as they please here in Brazil without answering to the Brazilian gov't. and Brazilian law?

Cn.c said: “Brazilians find quite normal to charge heavy import taxes on goods, but not so when others do the same. Where is the Brazilian common sense? Do they have any?”

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Ricardo: I used to be in international trade and there were a lot of products that we could not import to the United States because of all kinds of duties, taxes, and other barriers.

Come on now Ricardo!! Are you going to try and compare the import duties levied by Brazil and the U.S., or hell, by Brazil and just about any other country on the planet??!! Brazil is the 2nd or 3rd most heavily taxed country on planet earth! If the U.S. and the rest of the world would take a policy of RECIPROCITY, as Brazil is always so keen to do in turn, in regards to tariffs with Brazil, Brazil would have one of two alternatives, drastically lower their import duties, or be prepared to be in a similiar position that Cuba is in today driving cars that are 50 years old and/or buying bars of soap and bottles of shampoo for 20 dollars a piece.

Ch.c said: Did you forgot that you cut 12 ZEROES (YESSSSSS TWELVE ZEROES) to your currency during the last 70 years or so ??????

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Ricardo: No I did not forget. (The Cruzeiro, the New Cruzeiro, the Cruzado, the New Cruzado, the Cruz Credo, and finally the Real.)

But we are talking about what happened in the past.

And the best indicators for future prospects are past results....you of all people should know that Ricardo.

"Duane Hamilton
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-23 00:51:32
The comments that followed really shocked me. Then I started looking at the other parts of www.brazzil.com and discovered the same thing. This site never was a good place for people interested in Brazil, partly because the forums aren't moderated. It harms the image of Brazil because of the amount of misinformation posted here by the usual bigots and perpetuates the same old stereotypes".

-Now that's funny coming a a brazilkian & other brazilians on this forum, stereotypes, isn't that what brazuca's do all over, they have no problem criticizing others even when not warranted, but it's not ok to criticize them, that's illegal, there's an unwritten law in brazil that you can't criticize, they're above that. After all brazilians are perfect, they have no faults, they make no mistakes, it's allways the others. Tthey're all very educated, respectful, Polite, they can all read &write & carry themdelfes in a distinguish matter. Oh let me stop i'm starting to laugh so hard that i'm falling off my chair".
Even ricardao above claims he never heard any joekes go figure, how convenient of him to deny what he kniws all to well. You see money or nomoney, professional position or not all brzilians suffer from the same delusional state of mind.
I'll give you a quick exsmple A brazilian, th germans & italinas in brazil are nice, they are romanticized for their hard work, etc. But not their faults, brutalities, backwardness, etc. wher eher ein the u.s. lets see the italinas are the wops, spics, etc. I guess when they went over to brazil they clenased themselves & the germans well wht i can say they are just such great people. Just like the italians they discovered worlds for people just like you to exist.
See it's like a child that when it's born it doesn't need it's parents to feed it, take car of it, learn how to walk, grow up, etc. &see once thye'r egrown they sy that they did it all on their own, Brazilians are the only people that were born ready"...
Have a nice day at the beach A brazilian, hope you sell alot of ice cream.

We aren't interested in your inferiority complex.

This site never was a good place for people interested in Brazil, partly because the forums aren't moderated. It harms the image of Brazil because of the amount of misinformation posted here by the usual bigots and perpetuates the same old stereotypes.

Nothing harms Brazil’s image more than the actions of many Brazilians and your politicians. Nice try!

Sorry if the truth rankles, Ape. If you think this lowly little site in cyberspace is responsible for Brazil’s rep**ation as violent, corrupt, nation filled with poverty, conflict and scantily clad, and overtly objectified, women to pretty and soften up the edges than you are farther out in la -la land than I resigned myself.

IMHO the site provides a great service for many potential foreigners coming to Brazil (regardless of the sream-fests). The stories/debates of those living here and those with experience here (from many nations), sharing a rather common frustration (or several frustrations) needs to be highlighted to the neophytes hoping to hit the beaches with quixotic dreams of unlimited caiparinhas and morenas dancing in their inexperienced heads.

Brazil should come with a warning label on it, but since it doesn’t, folks need to see and hear first hand from those in the know (unedited and without moderation), and not come to a forum set out like a travel brochure (which is what I suppose you would like) luring them to their fate like sirens in the seas beckoning sailors.

Actually, every time YOU and Costinha scribble anything down, it provides a much needed glimpse into paranoid, xenophobic, deceitful mentality one can bet on encountering here. You and costinha provide a wonderful service, even though you do so unintentionally and unwittingly.

Now, before you pop one of the few remaining synapses you have, I’m the first to admit you cannot generalize an entire population (although YOU certainly think YOU can), and the first to admit there are some stellar people in this nation (I wouldn’t be here if there weren’t), but make no mistake about it; the balance between the stellar and the stoically moronic and violently dangerous in Brazil is not only a little lopsided, but down right mutant. And those with starry-eyed aspirations of moving to paradise need a small dose of reality before booking their flights, just to stay safe. It’s like a shot to prevent typhoid, the vaccine is actually the virus, but given in a small does to build the body’s immune system.

To balance things out a tad, luckily for this site (and Brazil), there are people like Joao, Shelly and I would add Ricardo (although I don’t share all his aspirations and beliefs) to the list of those who show the other side of what can be encountered here, if you are lucky.

Sadly many aren’t lucky, and encounter myriad problems and cons, or worse, are sent back home in a casket along with a bill for the freight. Brazil is not for beginners!

So, instead of pissing on the site because of the pissing matches, take from it what you want and ignore the rest. And stop with the victim mentality. It looks childish. As well, be assured Ape, when you start off again with your fascist bigoted remarks, or panacea visions of a Brazil that only exist in your wee tiny head, you will be taken to task by those in the know, and this can only prove beneficial for outsiders. Actually, for me it is almost a duty to inform new gringos on their arrivals, or forewarn those wishing to travel here.

Also, learn to deal with the criticism, you folks can’t go around trying to ban Hollywood films and Groening cartoons or kick out foreign corresponds forever because they joke, jest or report things that so easily pierce your thin (but lovely tanned) skin.

Fui!

For now!

Thanks for proving my point. The generalizations and poor language used here are typical of uneducated bigots such as yourself. If there were rules for using this forum, just like it is in so many other places, people like ch.c would have been banned a long time ago.

The myth that without rational behavior any truth can be achieved is just a myth. If we can learn something from mass psychology and some unfortunate events of the past is that a lie repeated a thousand times becomes "truth", especially for those that don't know what they are talking about or have already an inclination to believe in such things. The Brazilian image is being tarnished as we write and a "disinformed opinion" shaped through audiences internationally.

Anybody that disagrees with what is disinformed here, just like we saw in the case of Ricardo Amaral, is attacked by a furious and blood-thirsty mob formed by all kinds of bigots (and the evidence is the sequence of e-mails for all people here to read).

Gringo, by your belligerent style and the manner you insistently tried to destroy me in all your posts make clear that if you could you would kill me. The same for TC and Ricardo Amaral. You aren't arguing about facts or ideas, instead you aim to destroy your opponents because you don't like what they say.

To balance things out a tad, luckily for this site (and Brazil), there are people like Joao, Shelly and I would add Ricardo (although I don’t share all his aspirations and beliefs)

Thanks for the kind words. I don't share ALL the aspirations and beliefs of Ricardo either. However, his "Master Plan" for development of Brazil is FAR better than the one put forth by our current Minister for "Long Term Planning". Besides, he is willing to listen to other people too which is a very good quality in a planner.

I think Ricardo should worry less about the American economy and focus more on how to implement his plan here (without the Chinese money). May be a 3 Months meditation in Labrador (during the winter months) will be good for him.

BTW, it would be much more interesting to discuss Ricardo´s appraisal of Mangabeira´s plan for the Amazon.

(and the evidence is the sequence of e-mails for all people here to read)

I actually meant "comments".

And I would like to add that the support for such irrational behavior reduces the credibility of this site to null. There's no way of guaranteeing a minimum level of quality, either from the articles or from the comments.

Thanks for the kind words.

I feel sorry for you. The only ones he praises are the ones that say "amen" to him.

Ah, Ape.

The generalizations and poor language used here are typical of uneducated bigots such as yourself.

What generalizations are we talking about? Especially after I said:

GRINGO WROTE:

I’m the first to admit you cannot generalize an entire population

Do you even read my posts? Or is it sufficient that you see “Gringo” written and then you launch into a fit of paranoia and buffoonery?

If we can learn something from mass psychology and some unfortunate events of the past is that a lie repeated a thousand times becomes "truth", especially for those that don't know what they are talking about or have already an inclination to believe in such things.

It’s nice to see that you’ve revived one of your hero’s most memorable axioms in this debate. Gobbels would be proud of you. Given I think you are a fascist, I’m not surprised. But leave your homage to Nazism and your communications 101 platitudes to the mountain dwellers in your neighborhood. They may eat up your trite, but I wont.

But back to Brazil’s questionable global image (which you think is created through a mass manipulation campaign), a few gringos and many Brazilians discussing the problems in Brazil and challenging opinions are not to blame for giving Brazil a bad rap. As long as you think this, you’ll never focus on the true problems and those problems will never go away. Tough luck for you.

But also, if you think it is just Gringos and Brazucas that rail on Brazil, I suggest you see the comments section in Globoonline.com.br (those comments make ours look mild by comparison, and give me hope if the truth can be said).

people like ch.c would have been banned a long time ago.

You would have too after using the N word, and insisting you could.

Anybody that disagrees with what is disinformed here

Tell us what is DISinformed?

Gringo, by your belligerent style and the manner you insistently tried to destroy me in all your posts make clear that if you could you would kill me.

Again, you’re delusional, but most FASCISTS are. And hell ya, as long as you’re putting the “final solution” on the table for indigenous groups (or “the ignorants” as you call them), I’ll keep at ya. Fascists also love censorship, and we know where you stand on that as well. But s long as the forum is open, yes, you can be sure I´ll call you on your bulls**t.

Are you going to answer any of my questions from the LAST pissing match? Or do you prefer to remain evasive? To remind you of that question I asked:

If native children don´t want your formal Brazilian education what do you do? I´m waiting?

You would have too after using the N word, and insisting you could.

Yes, I can, because I have black blood as well.

And hell ya, as long as you’re putting the “final solution” on the table for indigenous groups (or “the ignorants” as you call them), I’ll keep at ya. Fascists also love censorship...

I invite anybody to read the comments and see if I proposed anything like it. I just said that Indian children should be educated and that their culture is a dead end because they live in the stone age. If they had education they could protect themselves, improve their communities and participate effectively in the society. Being isolated just make it easy for criminals to cheat or attack them.

Being ignorant is not an immutable aspect, but a state and it is easily fixable through education. Given the size of human knowledge we are always ignorant about something. Saying that Indians are ignorant because they lack formal education is not an offense, but the reality!

And moderating the forums isn't censorship, but a way to assure that the etiquette is respected and that people are free to express ideas without being lynched by a mob. The ideal way would be that people needed to sign up in order to send comments and the forum were moderated. This is the opposite, completely anonymous and unmoderated, which makes everybody pretty much free to say things they wouldn't if they could be identified.

Damn Ape, arguing with you is akin to a Sisyphean task, or a game of whack-the-mole.

Yes, I can, because I have black blood as well.

Given the one drop rule, so do I. But I would rightfully get my head knocked off if I were stupid enough to challenge a group of African Americans like you did and use that word. And while we’re at it, chiming in saying you have “Indian blood” and “black blood” whenever it strikes you as convenient does not give you license to be a bigot or racist, nor does it give you some vast superiority over any subject germane to race and ethnicity. Got that?

I just said that Indian children should be educated and that their culture is a dead end because they live in the stone age.

I’ve ask several times what you should do if they don’t feel their culture is a dead end and they don’t want a formal Brazilian education? You’ve not answered. What a surprise.

Saying they “should” have an education is a much lighter stance than what you were preaching in the other threat, and I too would join in asking others to read your bile for proof. But I would also like to ask if the Kyapo, Cintas Largas, Yanonami or Waimiri Atroari, groups already in contact and doing business with the “mundo branco” if they feel your comments about their “dead end cultures” were not fascist or not? When one group of people perceive themselves to be superior and force changes on others for their benefit? Well, I guess we can spend the night debating what kind of slug you are and what to call you.

Being ignorant is not an immutable aspect, but a state and it is easily fixable through education.

Obviously, not! And you’ve proven this time and time again.

And moderating the forums isn't censorship

You said that if the forum were moderate Ch.c would be BANNED. That’s not censorship? That’s what Lula tried with Larry Rother, I guess you folks have a different concept for freedom of expression than most!

What about your sidekick Costinha? Would you consider banning him for his contributions? Or does he get a pass because he’s Brazilian? As for signing in under one name? Sure, why not? But it really won’t make a difference given most of the usual suspects don’t change their nics that often. I think. Maybe not, Costinha comes in quite frequently after you, I’ve often consider him the smell to your flatulent. One arrives slightly after the other. Maybe you are one and the same?

But your biggest problem Ape, is your evasiveness. You never finish a thought, and never finish an argument. You are a rhetorical hit- n- run type of guy. In every clash I’ve had with you, you’ve evaded direct questions (like here), provided nothing but wide sweeping generalizations and nonsensical and often unrelated baffle gab dressed up as something scholastic, and when called to task to be specific, you turn tail and flee. You are an odd ball.

Thanks for the kind words.

Not a problem, and there is no ulterior motive – I do find yours and Shelly´s comments quite interesting, and Shelly´s are actually quite inspiring. I know I can be a caustic sob, and I wish I could be more Zen-like such as yourself, but to deal with the knuckle draggers, you need to get your knuckles dirty too.

You’re a cool cucumber, João. As are most Menezinhas da Ilha! We started out on the wrong footing as you´ll no doubt recall, but sorted it out. You think there is hope for Ape and me?

Ape and me

Sorry, the Ape and I!

BTW, it would be much more interesting to discuss Ricardo´s appraisal of Mangabeira´s plan for the Amazon.

Where would this be found?

Do you really think your verbosity is worth more than “10cc” of bottled syphilitic whore spit? I think not!

Now run along or go f.u.c.k. yourself into oblivion, she-beast.

Yours truly,

Costinha

This guy costinha is a classic example of human depravity.

"I believe every American should be forced to commiserate with people from other countries while they are growing up. Only when I talked to people from outside my borders did I realize how insanely myopic the entire establishment of the US is. People here really can't seem to understand why the world gets mad at us. It is not evil that's the problem here I think, just incredible, earth-shattering, incalculable, painfully entrenched ignorance."

I feel sorry for you.

Thanks, but no need to feel sorry. I can defend myself!

The only ones he praises are the ones that say "amen" to him.

Not really. You can judge yourself when he mentioned:

We started out on the wrong footing as you´ll no doubt recall, but sorted it out. You think there is hope for Ape and me?

You make lots of very good points, but they are lost in the middle, because your posts are long and give an impression that you, me, Ricardo and other fellow Brazilian bloggers like " Brazilian Dude" and "Mario Silvio are trying to defend the actions of idiots in the government. You know as well as I do that we are being controlled by spin doctors and it is quite frustrating for educated people like us. There again it is their job to defend their actions and not ours. Remember what you keep on saying " The military did not oppose ideas"? What I am trying to do is to generate ideas to solve the problems we have and we will have (of course, there are lots of problems that were solved a long time ago, but they have come back, because it generates votes!)

Coming back to your verbal duel with "Gringo" about educating the Indians, I thought the debate was interesting as well as amusing! He keeps on asking a question that comes to my mind: "Do they really want to get educated, the Western way?". Another question that I ask myself "How the heck, the Incas,Mayas and the Aztecs know how to build things". There is an interesting blogger who goes by the name "SUPUS". The other day, he was talking about the native Indians who crossed the Bering strait to come into the Americas. Gringo did mention about the Eskimos in Canada and Aborigines in Australia, but I am afraid that you missed the point.

Never mind I don't think that Gringo or any others are trying to kill you, Ricardo Amaral,me,etc;

We will come back and have a civilized debate which would be wonderful. Take care

We started out on the wrong footing as you´ll no doubt recall, but sorted it out. You think there is hope for Ape and me?

Sure, it is going to be ok with you and "A Brazilian". Just stop calling him "Ape" which is he not. Ask him how he would be liked to be addressed "Abe" or " A Brazilian". Remember your question to him:" Ask the Indians what they want"

Sorry, the Ape and I!

Here you blew it. It should be Ape and ME (as per your original posting). You must be from NL (Not many on this blogg would know what NL means).

"CT written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-23 11:15:52
We aren't interested in your inferiority complex".

-I didn't know i had a complex, i'm surprised. The last time i checked i liked myself very much-

"CT written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-23 11:15:52
We aren't interested in your inferiority complex".

-I didn't know i had a complex, i'm surprised. The last time i checked i liked myself very much-

This slut yowser is a classic example of human homosexuality.

Where would this be found

Here is an exchange of comments between Ricardo and me:

Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, 2008-01-18 08:30:35

Someone on this forum send me an email with your question, sorry but I have not looked this website for a few days because I have been sick with a terrible gripe (flu).



Sorry to know about your illness and hope you are nicely recuperating. May be you need to spend a couple of weeks in the "pousada" of your friend on the Southern coast, to escape the cold winter!

Thanks for the answer.I am posting below a link that explains part of the "Long Term Plan" put forth by Roberto Mangabeira Unger, the Minister for Strategic Planning. You may (or may not)find it interesting.

http://blog.estadao.com.br/blo...1#comments

Wish you a speedy recovery.
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-18 13:21:54
Muito obrigado. Eu ja estou melhorando da gripe.

You said: "I am posting below a link that explains part of the "Long Term Plan" put forth by Roberto Mangabeira Unger, the Minister for Strategic Planning. You may (or may not)find it interesting."

I did read the long-term plan that you posted from Roberto Mangabeira, I am sorry to tell you but in my opinion, it is a terrible plan for a number of reasons.

The link I sent to Ricardo was (and I hope it is still accessible):

http://blog.estadao.com.br/blo...1#comments

It is worth going through, though. I did have a good laugh.

"CT written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-23 11:15:52
We aren't interested in your inferiority complex".

-I just finished checking it. It's all here. Someone must of stolen yours. Now go look for it.

Sure, it is going to be ok with you and "A Brazilian". Just stop calling him "Ape"

Actually Joao, that was a rhetorical question. But I’ll take your sage consul under careful and thoughtful consideration. No guarantees though.

And your link doesn’t work; I guess the thread has been put to rest.

Here you blew it. It should be Ape and ME (as per your original posting).

Quite true, but I was more aiming for a cheap joke based on the King and I, whereby a foreigner enters and little known underdeveloped nation in the hopes of teaching. That’s my story, I am sticking with it!

You must be from NL (Not many on this blogg would know what NL means).

I's the b'y that builds the boat, And I's the b'y that sails her, I's the b'y that catches the fish and brings em home to Liza.

That was an excellent choice because “a Brazilian” was really beating you to a pulp, and you started to look even stupider than you already are. Now then, return to your “Join the 3 Dots” game.

Regards,

Costinha

Coming back to your verbal duel with "Gringo" about educating the Indians, I thought the debate was interesting as well as amusing! He keeps on asking a question that comes to my mind: "Do they really want to get educated, the Western way?". Another question that I ask myself "How the heck, the Incas,Mayas and the Aztecs know how to build things". There is an interesting blogger who goes by the name "SUPUS". The other day, he was talking about the native Indians who crossed the Bering strait to come into the Americas. Gringo did mention about the Eskimos in Canada and Aborigines in Australia, but I am afraid that you missed the point.

João, you are the one that missed the point. You are following certain vagueries and opinions that don't follow reality nor history. Such cultures had some advancement if compared to the 15th century Europe, but not today! And they performed human sacrifices and all kinds savage things. The Spanish slaughtered the Aztecs with the help of other local Indians, because they would exploit and eliminate other tribes! There are no saints in history. Besides that, they are dead. There's no way of comparing that with Brazilian Indians that are far backwards if compared to the Aztecs.

All children must go to school. This is not an option, but the law. There's no questioning it. No parent has the right to deny them education. Obviously their cultures are dead end, because they can't even write. What kind of advancement could they have? Anthropologists and others study them because they are like snapshots of what life on Earth was thousands of years ago. They can infer things about past civilizations and their language by studying them. That's it. Today those indians are like mice in a lab, nothing more than that. I said they should be empowered and that was enough for starting a flamewar with the kid.

Education is the only humane option. They have no right to prevent the development of their children.

Living isolated not only could mean that they are unable to defend themselves, but also that they can be easily cheated. Some time ago tribe complained that international researchers took blood samples from them and later sold it to other labs, but they didn't know what it meant back then. Look it up on Google if you are curious.

They are stone age mice for the "1st world".

All gringo can do is to compare it with Anglo-saxon's failure due to their own racist culture. Poor language, poor knowledge about the facts and poor logic.

And your link doesn’t work; I guess the thread has been put to rest.

The following link should work as it is "permanente":

http://blog.estadao.com.br/blo...&tb=1&pb=1

I's the b'y that builds the boat, And I's the b'y that sails her, I's the b'y that catches the fish and brings em home to Liza.

Thanks

Costinha the "dog skull-f**ker" opines:

That was an excellent choice because “a Brazilian” was really beating you to a pulp

I don’t think that anyone who admits to trying to squeeze orange juice from apples has any currency to decide much here. BTW, which is it today Costinha? Are you Frik or Frak? I only ask because you and dumbass seem to always show up one after the other. Things that make you go “hmmmmm”?

Dumbass grunts:

João, you are the one that missed the point.

João’s a pretty bright lad, the fact that he thinks you missed the point should give you pause for thought. But you still have Frak, the guy who talks about “dog-skull f**king”, to cheerlead for you.

But Joao only touched on part of the question. My question to you, which has gone unanswered for days now, is what do you propose to do if groups don’t want this education you claim they need?

All children must go to school. This is not an option, but the law.

I gave you the link to the Brazilian Constitution (article 231) that gives indigenous groups the “right to be different” which includes education. The fact you don’t know anything about your Nation’s Constitution is not surprising.

Obviously their cultures are dead end, because they can't even write

Which tribes specifically are you talking about? Here’s where you prove your dimwittedness and ignorance yet again, dumbass. There are a number of groups that do have written languages now, crikkies, the Kyopo have planes and still prefer to live in their lands and educate their own children. You want to go there and tell them that their children must now sit in classes with Brazilians because you think their culture is “at a dead end”? Good luck to you. You can find them in the Middlelands of Pará btw. Bring a bullet proof vest.

Today those indians are like mice in a lab, nothing more than that. I said they should be empowered and that was enough for starting a flamewar with the kid.

You sniveling little arrogant bigot; how do you empower someone by taking away their power to determine their own fate and direction? Don’t worry, I know you won’t answer that either; you haven’t answered a single question for three days now. You’re simply a coward.

Living isolated not only could mean that they are unable to defend themselves, but also that they can be easily cheated.

You want them to move to Sao Paulo? Ya, no one will cheat them there.
Or how about Sao Felix do Xingu? Juina?

Here´s the respect they get when snuggled up to Brazilian culture in the north.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9esNX7bzHY

Some time ago tribe complained that international researchers took blood samples from them and later sold it to other labs, but they didn't know what it meant back then. Look it up on Google if you are curious.

Look up “tribe” on google? Are you on drugs? After that, maybe I should look up “the SOME” you always refer to and let us not forget, “the ugly truth”. LMAO Do you know what a fact is? You know, like a name, date or specific historical reference? Remember your intellectual flogging started when you were tossing out bulls**t rhetoric about "SOME" people.

Luckily for you, I do remember the story. But what is your point? That people will screw over Indians if given half a chance? Shocker! You folks have been doing that since your arrival on their lands 500 years ago. Heck, João should know that Dias Velhos, founder of “Nossa Senhora da Desterro”, was one of the greatest Indian slave traders/murders going. Admit it, they’ve been screwed 6 ways to sundown for over 500 years and you want to continue on with that legacy of cultural genocide. Bully for you.

All gringo can do is to compare it with Anglo-saxon's failure due to their own racist culture.

Well your bigotry knows no bounds. For you to dismiss historical examples of why societal engineering has failed in the past based solely your prejudices, than there is not a lot more that can be said. I’d give you the example of Indonesia and their dealings with the Dyaks in Borneo, but you’d dismiss that too I imagine on some other deep prejudicial resentment you have.

But going back to the original point of this flogging, you said:

Some believe that there aren't enough resources for sustaining a 1st world lifestyle for everybody, so they urge others to "protect" the ignorants from knowledge.

Now who or what is this “SOME” and who are the "others" that urge to"protect" the ignorants from knowledge?

Now try and break through your ferret-like attention span, stick to the subject, and answer the question that started it all, DUMBASS

GRINGO(norrhea) Wrote:

”Now try and break through your ferret-like attention span, stick to the subject, and answer the question that started it all, DUMBASS”


And he remains as nasty as cooked entrails of poultry, obnoxious in every odious detail. Live with it without bitterness. I am going to ask Shelly to put on her sombrero and dance La Cucaracha on your testicles.

Gringa, you can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any person I know… and stop inhaling paint thinner.

Regards,

Costinha

"And the best indicators for future prospects are past results...."

This statement is only true for those who learned from past.

Thanks for the comments and as usual, I enjoyed reading them. Here is my rebuttal.

João, you are the one that missed the point. You are following certain vagueries and opinions that don't follow reality nor history. Such cultures had some advancement if compared to the 15th century Europe, but not today! And they performed human sacrifices and all kinds savage things.

I never had any doubt about your knowledge of history and the evolution of civilizations. Though I am not as well read as you are, I could follow what you were saying. But one has to remember the human sacrifices and all kind of savage things still go on in the world, though in different forms. But you were correct in saying "There are no saints in history. Besides that, they are dead". That was past, but we should learn from it, though.

There's no way of comparing that with Brazilian Indians that are far backwards if compared to the Aztecs.

I am really sorry,but must disagree. Our indios are far backwards compared with Aztecs? It is like saying that Brasilian engineers do not know how to read a circuit diagram. Our Indians knew how to survive for hundreds of years in inhospitable jungles, without the help of the European settlers, living off the resources the Mother Earth gave to them. They will still survive, if there is no electricity, water supply or the "modern communications " means. Can we, the "civilized" people?

All children must go to school. This is not an option, but the law. There's no questioning it. No parent has the right to deny them education.

Again, I am sorry to disagree. Equivalent of Bush/Cheyney trying to impose democracy in all other parts of the world. It depends on what kind of education you want for the little Indian kids.

Living isolated not only could mean that they are unable to defend themselves, but also that they can be easily cheated. Some time ago tribe complained that international researchers took blood samples from them and later sold it to other labs, but they didn't know what it meant back then. Look it up on Google if you are curious.

It is the job of our government and all the law enforcement agencies to protect them and are we doing a good job?

They are stone age mice for the "1st world".

Who is responsible for it?

A Brazilian, I like our Indians as much as I do of our fishermen. What bothers me me is that over the years, the fishermen in our coastal communities were forced to sell their properties and move away to enable our "rich and powerful" to construct mansions which are occupied only for 2 months a year. I hope the same fate does not befall on our indios.

Anyway, I would be happy to receive your comments on the "Long Term Plan" of Mangabeira Unger.

You have a great week end

It saddens me that every article is followed by poison ink comments. First I have spent a lot of time in Brasil....and I find the people; whether in big cities or small one street towns like the people everywhere else. I can speak some portuguese so I have been able to talk to many people from very different lifestyles. Conversations over beer and food in small oceanside barracas or even in downtown sidewalk cafes are always friendly and interesting; the news media would have people believe that it is a bitter struggle and different than the past. There is a small industry of spreading anti American and anti European propaganda but it is mostly ignored. I see it on TV and in print in Brasil...other places too but in an internet age anyone can check and find out the truth or lack thereof. I am happy for the young couple and wish them the best in a life together.parabens

I am back. I am in Texas at the moment. I will leave here tomorrow for South Carolina were I will depart the vessel. With the exception of my comment to Bo above, I am staying out of the above exchanges. Seems as if I have quite a bit to catch up on.

Welcome back and happy 2008.It would be interesting to know more about your voyage. Did you spend your X-mas and New year on some port or on the high seas? Will you be visiting Brazil before your next trip?

rophy Husband
written by ..., 2008-01-21 20:17:40
The only Brasilian woman I know who sees her foreign husband as a trophy, is Shelly. But then again, she is more like a hyena.

What do you expect, no self-respected man would wanna be seen with that witch. So there comes the typical English guy, pale, facial pimples, big nose, no chin and f**ked-up teeth but with a fat wallet. Well, she jumped at it!

Way to go Shelly!

Costinha

c**ksuckerstinha,

I am not going to answer you. You have low self-steem because you and CH.C have a lot in commom. In fact, I would go even futher and call you c**ksuckerstinha CH.C. from now on. My husband is gorgeous, his dick is probably bigger than yours. Blue eyed and just a beautiful man in and out. A wonderful father to my kids--not like the high number of Brazilian man who abandoned their children, right?

You could get women even if you payed them, APE!

You could get women even if you payed them, APE

I meant to say you couldn't get...

Don't argue, you are waisting your time. You can't squeeze an orange juice from an apple, but A Brazilian and c**kersuckerstinha believe they can. In Brazil, this is called milagre. Many Brazilians live in the same sort of trance, waiting for a milagre to happen. Maybe some extra-terrestrial force will take care of all the problems we have. As long as we have carnaval, samba, praia e futebol and GLOBO, Brazil will be a land of "it was almost". Let's blame everyone and do nothing about it---typical mamma's boy syndrome, widely seen in the DNA of Brazilian man. Obviously, there are a few that scape, genetically speaking we hope the dominant genes and attributes will pass down to future generation. Right now, we are in a bottle neck situation---that is why Brazilian women have to marry foreigners

escape

Come on now… You said “my husband …blablabla…. just a beautiful man.”

To me, that sounds gayesh… You husband is GAY, you know it and I know it. You desperately need a real man. So why do you keep sharing your Dildo with that rotten teeth c**k connoisseur, huh?

Don’t matter, I still luuuuuv you b.i.t.c.h.!

Yours one and only,

Costinha

PS:

You that GRINGO(norrhea) guy? Well, lately he has been very annoying ranting his usual vulgar spew.

I told him that I was going to ask from you a favor, that is, for you to put on your sombrero and dance La Cucaracha on his testicles. I am sure that you will comply with that request, from me, your loved one. Thanks baby.

BIG kiss na bunda… From yours one and only,

Costinha

Though I am not as well read as you are, I could follow what you were saying. But one has to remember the human sacrifices and all kind of savage things still go on in the world

Nonsense. You are comparing apples to oranges. The Aztecs performed daily sacrifice rituals by ripping the heart out of the victim's chest, look it up if you don't know it already. Comparing it with anything we have is just nonsense. The Spanish were "nice people" compared to them.

Our indios are far backwards compared with Aztecs? It is like saying that Brasilian engineers do not know how to read a circuit diagram.

The Aztecs had some science and engineering. They were civilization builders, our indians were just hunters and gatherers. That's why we don't have any ancient city around here, they wouldn't build it. The Mayans had some advanced knowledge about astronomy, more than the Europeans of that century, what did our Indians have? This is what differentiate cultures.

I think you should get out of this "politically correct" talk and see things for what they really are.

Again, I am sorry to disagree. Equivalent of Bush/Cheyney trying to impose democracy in all other parts of the world. It depends on what kind of education you want for the little Indian kids.

The only one that exists of course. The one that has access to the human knowledge gathered so far, something they can't have with their elders.

They are stone age mice for the "1st world".

Who is responsible for it?

That's precisely why we need to give them education. Did you expect the government would create a giant bubble around the Amazon in order to protect them? That's not not even possible. Meanwhile you and your politically correct friends are denying them education they are offered alcohol until they get alcoholic, without even knowing the risks.

Keeping them in ignorance is just a joke on humanity as whole, it is using human beings for experiences.

A person possessing feelings of vainness, need, sensations of danger and power rolled up into one, lacking sincerity with one’s self.

What is a traitor? A person that cheats, conspires, and will sell his/her own family, community or country, for personal gain.

What is a traitor? A person not trustworthy suffering from blind greediness, and thriving on the humiliation and distress of others.

What is a traitor? A person that is unhappy, solitary, vengeful and repugnant, not worthy of any human compassion.

What is a traitor? The person that is known here as “Shelly.”

Shelly… You are guilty of high treason. May God have mercy on your soul.

Sincerely yours,

Costinha

OIL AND WATER,,, DO NOT MIX..............

hahahahaha, c**ksuckerstinha gotta try a little harder. Your politicians are the biggest traitor in Brazil. Equally you for not doing s**t to better people's lives and to better our image around the world. Anyway, the image that I have of you is in the gay parade in Rio with a big fio dental encravado na bunda!


Costinha

All my love to you drag queen!

Since A Brazilian is sooo keen to give his opinion, I will post the report here for all to see:
From the Report:

"Social assistance programmes have helped 4 - to 6 -year-olds in poor regions gain access to preschools,
but with a trade-off in quality – pre-schools in disadvantaged regions are less likely to be staffed
with qualified teachers, less likely to be equipped with proper support materials and more likely to run
short hours."

Quality
Laws and guidelines on pedagogy for early childhood education are in place, but implementation remains a
problem. The gap has to do with the fact that not all early childhood services have yet been integrated into
the education sector and recognized as educational institutions. Qualification levels of teachers are
improving, but early childhood teachers lack specialized training and education. Inequities are evident in
quality as well. Public early childhood services attended by the poor tend to be of lower quality, especially
with regard to facilities and pedagogical environment, and private services of good quality are available
mostly among the rich. Quality problems are more urgent and pronounced in day care centres. The
challenge has mainly to do with the process of transforming them into educational institutions, which has
stalled. Sectoral conflicts, limits to municipal capacity and lack of funding are noted as contributing
factors.
Investment
Expenditure on early childhood education in Brazil has declined lately relative to other levels of education".


His answer:

A Brazilian, a true bigot and an ignorant prick. People like you are the cancer in our society.
Shelly, do your homework first and you will see that these words fit you perfectly. There have been a huge governmental programme for putting all children in school. We have near 100% there. Are you going to question the quality? One step at a time.

I am questioning everything. 1.5 million kids are working right now, the numbers maybe a little higher or lower. However, the way Brazilians deal with this is to deny the truth and lie to others. I won't do it. People like you walk by homeless kids everyday and do absolutely nothing to change the situation. The government will do you say, how about citizen involvement? I don't think Brazilians in general are giving people, we don't seem to care about others as much as we like to portray--a friendly country? I think not. You should begin a program in your town, independent of the gov. and try to help even if it is 5 kids at a time. Publish it and you will see how many Americans or Europeans will be willing to help. Public education is not going to improve unless you pay teachers well and provide adequate training. Also, nutrition has been linked to education will the schools in Brazil provide enough food for the kids. I am not talking about a little sandwich, a warm dish like they used to serve in the early 70's and late 80's.

Education needs to be seen in a holistic approach. The family atmosphere, economics, social class, area will always influence a child's education. Unless we have a comprehensive program, the situation will continue.

By the way, enforcement is hardly taken seriously in Brazil. Try to fool someone else

Our new Brazilian family and friends had not allowed politics or prejudice to interfere with the joy of two young people starting their lives together.

Good lucky to them. My personal experience as someone married to a foreigner is that my kids are blessed to have 2 distinct cultures united in love. In the end, it doesn't matter where you are from, love can truly brake barriers and build on a strong foundation. We sometimes have our cat-and-dog arguments, but diplomacy is part of our daily lives. I would never change anything. The places and people we have met far outweighs all the U.K.-Brazil relationship. I will leave it to the politicians, power hungry willing to stomp on anyone at anytime. In the end, we are all human beings living on the same planet (even you c**ksuckerstinha CH.c).

Você é muito estressada. Eu entendo porque minha amiga tambem era assim e hoje em dia ela é dona de um putero. Você vai ser igualzinha a ela.

Now then, don’t try to change the subject because after all, after many many drinks, you are sort of f**kable; but I mean, after a lot of drinks!

What attracted you to that rotten-teeth english faggot. You knew ahead of time that he was homosexual, in fact, he is not even a queer but a full blown castrated queen. Don’t you get embarrassed of being seen with him in public? Or was it money? Green-card maybe?

Shelly, did you know I typed "cyber sex whore" into a search engine and your name came up! Just call me and let's f.u.c.k. those fake silicone tits!

Yours one and only,

Costinha

Sex with you? Not even drunk! Nothing against drag queens, but you are not on my menu!

Cheers honey bun, keep dragging your queen bee wanna be elsewhere.

As I said, you cannot even go out with p**as.

All my love to you Queenie!

What attracted you to that rotten-teeth english faggot. You knew ahead of time that he was homosexual, in fact, he is not even a queer but a full blown castrated queen. Don’t you get embarrassed of being seen with him in public? Or was it money? Green-card maybe?

Green card in England? You so dumb there is no such thing idiot! Now then, go and masturbate yourself thinking of the many women (opps man) that you go out with.

All my love to you, even drags have a heart!

Shelly

"Social assistance programmes have helped 4 - to 6 -year-olds in poor regions gain access to preschools,
but with a trade-off in quality – pre-schools in disadvantaged regions are less likely to be staffed
with qualified teachers, less likely to be equipped with proper support materials and more likely to run
short hours."

Short hours??? How can it get any shorter than 7:30 am to 11:15 am?? Those are the "normal" hours here in the northeast!!! How the f**k can it get shorter? Take roll call and say goodbye?!

And Shelley, you said that there were 1.5 million children working? Well, I saw a report last year from the U.N. and also the brazilian federal gov't. that stated there were more than 8 million school-aged children in brazil that do NOT attend school!!

For anyone to attempt and froth that Brazil has close to 100% attendance rate for school aged children is like saying that brazil has only a handful of prostitutes.....a complete and utter deniance of the daily reality that hits one in the face during his "bom dia Brasil"! For the love of god, someone that has made that statement has never left his house, lol. Because even in the so-called "educated" south there is a severe problem with children not attending school. And when I say severe, I'm talking about 10% or more.....as that is severe and significant.

Ahhhhh… Chechelenta Shelley, why are you so interested in my sexuality? I know your 2 favorite words are “I DO.” You seem so desperate to choke the chicken. If you behave, I will show you my peppy and let you spank the monkey

I do understand, you being married to that rotten-teeth english faggot is depriving you of some well deserved humping. I just hope that after dating you, I won’t itch or burn later on!

The difference between you and a rooster is that a rooster says 'c**k-A-DOODLE DOO', and you say 'ANY-c**k'LL DO'…

Costinha
PS: Hehehehe

Enema?

Costa

Coco,

I said, quit dreaming drag queen. You are Not on my menu!

The difference between you and a rooster is that a rooster says 'c**k-A-DOODLE DOO', and you say 'ANY-c**k'LL DO'…

Is that what you say to you every morning before leaving your house? The carnival parade is soon, go on and put on your make-up dear!

All my love, please do wear the fio dental encravado na bunda.


Shelly

Smelly Shelley, Que Baixaria!

You are the QUEEN of BAIXARIA. In all means and forms. I guess I did touch a nerve somewhere.

All my love my queen friend.
Shelly

And Shelley, you said that there were 1.5 million children working? Well, I saw a report last year from the U.N. and also the brazilian federal gov't. that stated there were more than 8 million school-aged children in brazil that do NOT attend school!!

Wow, I didn't know it was this high. And we have A Brazilian pretending that Brazilian law puts children in school. I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

Did you read the report?

So I am your Coco now huh? I’m glad, because you are my Cocô!

And you mentioned “fio dental encravado na bunda”… I will honey, that way you can perform your BJ job to my vara peluda e veiúda easily.

I guess I did touch a nerve somewhere… It’s called, english queen faggot rotten teeth hubby. I got your number honey buns!

Beijo na BUNDA…

Yours one and only,

Costinha

PS: Next time I see you I’m pichin them silicon tities, NOJENTA BABY!

Hehehehe

Smelly Shelly always likes to look so busy, doesn’t she????

Of course Bobão did not read any report, he is very busy playing with his Dildo, the macabre ssssssssssstick!

Hehehehe

Costinha

PS: Say hello to the english faggot queen for me!

and the verdict is in,,,,,,americans should be very cautious ,,, third world anti american people want to marry for a "green card".....

is it for a green card ???

and the verdict is in,,,,,,americans should be very cautious ,,, third world Smelly Shelly want to marry for a "green card".....

Costa

Ever meet a speaker of English as a second language who immediately tried to impress you with his knowledge of English by using as many four letter words as possible?

Ever notice that when the conversation gets really down and dirty, toilet humor, the people doing it are normally Brazilians (wherever they may live) and the others, who may indeed have salty vocabularies, find it´s too much for them to get involved in, and back off?

Is it because only the native-born have the innate sense of basic decency and propriety in language that only comes thru when one is properly brought up by native-´peaking parents?

And, does this phenomenon also apply to some English-speaking expats living in Brazil who learn Brazilian Portuguese and then abuse it thru injudicious use of Portuguese swear words? Maybe in your area of Brazil, I have never noticed it.

A incomodada brigando aqui com o infezado? Sei lá.

I think it is your turn for a goos old fashion ENEMA. Let me know if a wooden spoon woould help?

Sincerely,

Costa

My experience was somewhat typical. We were engaged and because of a mishap resulting my breaking her 2 front teeth while in front of her family she broke off our wedding plans and still refuses to make plans. It seems to me that these woman cling on to the past excessively.

If she would reconsider me I would promise to never injure her face again under any circumstances.

we were engaged and the connection was there. the problem was more than breaking the two front teeth. He needed to be less sure of himself and more flexible about being wrong sometimes. He knows it was an accident because we are together now....trying to work out this US/Brazil international cooperation.....

A heartwarming story and good luck. Try California, they have a 50/50 law in case it doesn´t work out.

A heartwarming story and good luck. Try California, they have a 50/50 law in case it doesn´t work out. Remember that here in Brazil, not even Cearenses can discipline their wives using fence posts anymore due to new laws.

Bush IS an idiot. Lula is one person. He is not the entire Brasilian Government. He likes Chevez & Castro? Hmmm... Let him befirend whomever he wishes. When his term is up, the next Brasilian leader will most likely think the opposite. On top of that... Brasil will certainly trade with the US more often. Despite what he thinks of those guys, Lula has people in his government who are doing a great job boosting the coutry's image. I am an American who is married to a Brasilian woman, with a wonderful family. Of course my wife wants her Green Card, she wants to be able to visit my mom (in the US) when we move down to Brasil! hehehehehe!

just listen to that song or how about "WHERE IS THE LOVE?" take a chill pill and relax... live life and enjoy it, we are all ppl and no matter what anyone says we are all prejudiced in some way or another to other ppl... take care all

Why is it that every single blog I read starts out with legitimate posts pertaining to the article and ends up with slander and harassment??

Why is it that every single blog I read starts out with legitimate posts pertaining to the article and ends up with slander and harassment??

When God was creating Brazil, one of his angels went to him and protested, why are you giving Brazil all these natural resources, beautiful weather, and bountiful food, it's too much. God thought for a minute and replied, you should wait till you see the people I will put here. (it's better in portuguese)

This was really awesome. I love the Brazilians culture very much, they are giving full freedom for their children. They are growing up their children in very good manner from this culture children can develop their knowledge in the society they can get nice experience.

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A few things:
It is obvious that no one is going to discuss geopolitics at a wedding. Would you? Even Americans would not do it, if their daughter or son were marrying a Russian. " So there, son-in-law, what do you think about the cold war?". Second, Brazilian do have manners, some more than others, just as anywhere else. Thirdly, Lula does not represent all Brazilians more than Bush represent all of America. The difference is that decisions made in Washington directly affect Brazil and the rest of the world (unlike the other way round). Further,it is generally not wise to move against the United States as it is still the world hegemon and truly massive force in this hemisphere. The U.S. has intervened militarily or in undercover operations more than one hundred times in Central and Latin American in the 20th century alone. It has significantly "underdeveloped" several countries including Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras, Chile and Argentina by staging coups or through direct intervention. The United States has also played a role during the Brazilian dictatorship and several of it multinationals in Brazil were closely tied to the secret police to undermine the force of Union labourers. Its is not surprising that there is anti- american sentiments globally and significantly so in Latin America. However, the U.S. is also endorsed with soft power stemming from (excuse me) its sometimes brainless T.V. series and music. Moreover, the United States has attempted (especially during the cold war) to implement its version of capitalism by shrinking public spending (in areas such as health and education)and increasing industry and promoting a consumer society. This is, again, a way it has acquired much soft power by imposing its culture glbally. It is not amazing that many Brazilian aspire to obtain "green cards" and become part of the consumer culture (or at least have access to all the consumption items as one can have in the U.S.) as well as access to better paying jobs. Although dependistas are 'outdated' (although I argue they are not since the issues they addressed have not been solved) one can see the bitterness that stemmes from the thought that some countries are necessarily underdeveloped by the developed countries who need their surplus output to fuel their own economies (but im getting off topic). The point is that the love- hate relationship Brazilians may feel toward Americans is what has stemmed this (stupid) discussion of whether Brazilians or Americans are worse and whether Brazilians apire to "marry up" and become Americans. I am sure many of them do in the same way that many of them would despise such thought. Further, Americans are also not a single people that can be lumped together. How many of the Americans are bound to discover the world solely through Fox? and yet how many others a briliant cultured individuals? This discussion between Cotinha and Bo has become fruitless...