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Brazil's Lula Has Become All He Used to Hate PDF Print E-mail
Written by Emily Kirksey   
Wednesday, 21 June 2006 10:29

Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da SilvaFor many Brazilians, the October 2002 election of President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva symbolized the ascendance to power of a leftist prodigal son. But impoverished Brazilians, initially attracted by Lula's radical past and his passionate pledge to transform Brazil's highly unequal society, could sense his potential for leading a social and political revolution that would bring justice to the ignored lower tier of the population.

As the standard bearer for the Partido dos Trabalhadores (PT, Workers Party), with links to militant labor movements and the left both in Brazil and throughout the world, Lula advocated expanding education; the seizure and later distribution of inefficiently used land; and agricultural policies - all in the name of the landless.

The Candidate and the Man

As was occurring in neighboring Argentina, the newly elected Brazilian president intended to finance his social reform by redirecting funds earmarked for debt repayment. He promised to invest more money in social welfare programs, as well as eliminate the corruption debauching the political process and the daily efficient functioning of the bureaucracy. Meanwhile, he would simultaneously play hardball with neoliberal international organizations like the IMF, WTO and World Bank.

It has to be said that Lula failed to follow through on most of his campaign promises, although on the surface it remains difficult to refute some of his early positive successes. His tight fiscal policies have successfully regulated inflation rates and stimulated the Brazilian economy. Yet, behind its glossy exterior, Brazil's economy has remained a house of cards, constructed through hasty, inept and corrupt bureaucratic institutions.

Over the past four years, Lula has embraced the policies of economic orthodoxy that once caused him to shudder, he has been implicated in the stygian Brazilian political corruption that he once decried, and he has roundly failed to achieve anything resembling a radical reformation of Brazilian society. Recent murderous events in the São Paulo prison system underscore the ineffectuality of Lula's government. These off-course political failings have marked Lula as a lost leader.

In truth, the decent part of Lula is still there. An energetic man without pretense, of hearty gesture and general good will, Lula was supposed to bring on a fun presidency that would carry in its wake a sense of fair play, shared equity, and a nation that would be fit for all Brazilians.

Rather than that, Brazilians were treated with warmed-over Cardoso policies and a sanitized left. As for Hugo Chávez, perhaps Lula never realized that he needed him as much as Chávez needed Lula. Chávez may have been tiresome, but for the streets of Latin America, it is Chávez and not Lula who is their hero.

Lula As a Foreign Policy Leader

Upon taking office Lula became almost the ex catheter leader of the "Pink Tide" of left-leaning, reform minded, South American nations that gave the appearance of waiting to strike out on their own on trade and foreign policy issues. Unofficial in opposition to the Iraq war and a refusal to accept an FTA based on a subsidized U.S. agriculture, Lula projected a posture of integrated regional leadership along with Venezuela's Hugo Chávez.

In fact, this turned out to largely be chimerical, as was shown when Bolivia's Morales nationalized the country's natural gas, producing a crisis with such user nations like Brazil. Today sullied by the big scandal, and some what annoyed over Chávez's larger than life standing, Lula has largely abandoned his regimes leadership and is expected to re-harmonize his country's regional trade policies with those of the U.S.

Decaying from Within

While Lula has been brokering trade deals around the globe, desperate local politicians have been forced to deal with the realities of a country decaying from within. The sheer scale of recent violence in São Paulo, as well as other Brazilian states, is staggering.

Rio de Janeiro averages over 4,000 murders per year; 3,000 of which are carried out by young and heavily armed teenaged narcotrafickers. City residents are routinely subject to horrific atrocities such as police and gang violence; discrimination; abuse; prostitution and often slavery; and ubiquitous corruption.

A society ravaged by poverty and brutal violence, which has not improved under his rule, has been a shameful blot on Lula's record. However, perhaps more alarming has been his inability to effectively respond to recurrent crises.

The remaining 1,000 annual murders in Rio de Janeiro are the result of brutal police repression. Persistent reliable reports have insisted that Brazilian prison officials frequently torture and beat inmates, and have ranked its jails as being among the most inhumane in the world.

The Lula administration is well aware of the growing security issues in many cities around Brazil, but it has done almost nothing to reform them. The government's lack of leadership and the rapidly dissolving social order frequently found in urban areas, has galvanized the use of extreme, often grotesque, practices by local officials.

For example, Operation Cleansing, developed by São Paulo mayor José Serra, a ranking social democratic political figure who has been connected to corrupt practices, has targeted the 'removal' of homeless residents from poor inner city neighborhoods to make way for urban development in an area of São Paulo known as Cracolândia (Crackland).

Furthermore, increasingly feral police officers routinely participate in unofficial faxinas (social cleansings), such as vigilante operations and death squad raids, to relieve neighborhoods of undesirables.

Conflict in São Paulo

The appalling binge of violence unleashed on May 13 by the First Capital Command (PCC) gang was partially in response to such provocative government-sponsored or sanctioned practices as cited above. The PCC, formed after a 1993 massacre of inmates in a São Paulo prison, operates a surprisingly efficient and powerful criminal organization from inside the prison system, and recently was able to orchestrate an estimated 150 attacks against police stations, military facilities, banks and subway stations over a four-day period.

A total of 161 people died in the resulting violence. Of that total, it is estimated that 107 deaths were casualties at the hands of the police. Astonishingly, the São Paulo government chose to formally negotiate with the criminals to end the violence and refused to accept federal assistance.

Authorities made a deal with gang leader Marcus "Marcola" Camacho, a man idolized by Brazil's criminal underground, rather than accept assistance from President Lula. Marcola attributed the uprising to excessive police brutality and promised to end violence in exchange for access to TVs and humane treatment.

Common Problem

The horrendous violence in São Paulo was another blow on the Lula government, which was only haltingly recovering from a highly embarrassing corruption scandal.

In May 2005, reports began to surface of widespread political corruption, principally a system referred to mensalão, whereby opposition legislators were bribed by PT party leaders to informally join their alliance in Congress, and were paid in monthly allotments for their votes.

Since that time, the Lula administration has come under constant fire from investigators and opposition party leaders. President Lula's PT party repeatedly has now been linked to bribing scandals and many backdoor deals. Lula's own presidential election is being called into question through reports of a caixa dois (secret slush fund) in the Bahamas that supplied un-audited funds to his campaign.

José Dirceu, Lula's own right hand man, is under investigation for his possible involvement in the murder of Celso Daniel, former mayor of Santo André. Even Fabio Luiz Lula da Silva, the president's son, is being investigated for his alleged role in a scandal, involving suspicious investments in his computer game business by companies holding contracts with the government.

President Lula has effectively maneuvered around this tsunami of allegations by immediately dismissing accused confidantes and avoiding investigation by oversight committees. As a result of such tactics, he gingerly has tossed off any suggestion that he was personally implicated in any of the scandals. Sadly, when the charges eventually engulfed him, Lula resorted to shrugging them off as nothing more than "politics as usual" in Brazil.

Egotism Sublime

The sickening thought comes to mind that his Forrest Gump persona may be part of an act in which his supporters are made to be the fall guys. The lack of environmental protection and failure in the job creation field, combined with a number of unmet social justice needs, lead one to the sound conclusion that Lula is now with the bankers and that the poor must understand that their poverty will only worsen.

Tragically, Lula cannot even offset such failings with a meaningful decision pointing to construction in other areas. Having roundly failed to produce significant social change in Brazil, he asks for more time, perhaps another term to accomplish this. But based on his record, he doesn't deserve any leap of faith.

In a speech after the São Paulo attacks, the President blamed the violence on the actions of previous governments. He stated that, "If they (his predecessors) had invested in education in the decades of 70, 80 and 90, many of these young prisoners would be working, giving lessons and studying."

By shuffling responsibility to his predecessors, Lula managed to skirt the reality that his social reforms have only made scattered improvements in the lives of Brazil's impoverished population. Figures from the World Bank show that despite the government's growing investments, there has been no substantial improvement in the country's education system.

Lula's education programs have only further marginalized low-income students by diverting funds from primary and secondary programs to large elite universities. Although low-income students receive tuition waivers under the university program, they remain dissuaded from applying due to difficult entrance exams.
Education is not the only area of social change where Lula has fallen short of expectations. From 1995 to 2004, the federal government spent 1.07 trillion reais (US$ 478 billion) on bureaucratic salaries and 1.2 trillion reais (US$ 540 billion) on pensions.

In that same time period, the government invested only 884 billion reais (US$ 395 billion) in health, education, social security and infrastructure combined. The handful of social programs that have been ratified are perpetually under-funded, with dire consequences.

In 2003, President Lula launched his flagship social program, Fome Zero, which involves nearly every social ministry at every level of local and national government. The program's goal is to satisfy the nutritional needs of the entire Brazilian population by attacking the structural causes of poverty.

Fome Zero has been designed to increase the purchasing power of Brazilians through many facets, most importantly job creation, land reform and increasing the minimum wage. Unfortunately, in all three of these vital areas, the Lula administration has fallen far short of its stated mark.

Job development is one of the most important pillars of the Fome Zero program, which promised ten million new jobs in four years and a two-fold increase in the minimum wage. Characteristically, Lula has yet again failed to live up to his promises.

In the past four years, the Lula administration has only delivered 3.7 million jobs and a meager 42 percent increase in the minimum wage, ignoring the clear fact that without adequate job growth, millions of Brazilians will never be able to move from the shadows of poverty.

The Bolsa Família project, also a part of Fome Zero, is designed to aid the 44 million Brazilians who are unable to provide adequate nutrition for themselves. This program provides cash transfers to families for food, based on their current income level.

Although highly touted as a success reaching eight million people, Bolsa Família has suffered from a constant lack of funds. Furthermore, the program advocates unsustainable cash transfers as a solution to poverty, which simply creates a cycle of dependency on the state, rather than substantial and predictable growth.

The Brazilian government recently announced that it would expand the Bolsa Família project to the landless, an insufficient swap considering the Lula administration's complete failure to provide property for the 120,000 landless that occupy makeshift tents along the roadsides of Brazil.

According to recent figures released by the Agricultural Development Ministry, the number of landless Brazilians has dramatically increased in the last three years, going from 60,000 in 2003 to 230,000 in 2006.

The Fome Zero project promised expansive land reform, however, it has only delivered 117,000 family parcels out of a promised 400,000. Lula's marginalization of the landless movement is by far his most grievous misstep, especially considering the fact that his presidential campaign was based heavily on the support of the Landless Workers' Movement (MST), the largest special interest organization in Brazil.

Once in office, Lula proceeded to turn his back on many of the people who elected him, including the MST, favoring a more middle-class oriented agenda.

Political Reorientation

Considering the lackluster performance of his social reform efforts, it is obvious that Lula's social agenda has taken a back seat to his dramatic reorientation towards orthodox economics. Since his election, Lula has behaved not as a populist or even a left-leaning leader, but as a neoliberal pragmatist, interested only in economic return.

Rather than immediately postponing debt payments so that he would be able to fund his social service budget, Lula has fought hard to eradicate all of Brazil's dollar-linked debt (although interest rate-based debt remains high) through high interest rates, taxes, and tight fiscal policy.

The President has also prioritized Brazil's export market, by legalizing genetically modified crops, privatizing state-owned industries, and increasing the number of low-wage factory zones.

Prior to assuming office, exports comprised 10.7 percent of the GDP; in 2004 that number had almost doubled to 18 percent. While some analysts may see these numbers as being impressive statistics that convey an indication of Lula's real accomplishments, in this instance, numbers may belie the fact that the net result of these activities has been less than fully beneficial for Brazil.

Wealth distribution in the country is still among the most skewed in the world, and the booming export market is returning little wealth to the country's lower economic strata.

Furthermore, recent months have shown that the Brazilian economy is hardly stable enough to stand up against both international and domestic crises. Following the nationalization of Bolivian oil and natural gas, as well as prison riots in São Paulo, Brazilian currency and foreign investment dropped dramatically.

Richard Lapper, of the Financial Times, reported that the Ministry of Finance was forced to skew its method of calculating its budgetary surplus in order to compensate for less than positive market forecasts.

Finding the Lost Leader

The election of President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in 2002 was supposed to be a pivotal point in Brazilian political history. The man the Brazilians had elected embodied fresh, innovative ideas that so many countries in Latin America have lacked.

Although initial prospects were good, the Lula administration has failed to produce many substantial returns. Once in office, President Lula effortlessly accepted the neoliberal plans of the presidents before him.

He tightened the budget to a point that it restricted the social rehabilitation Brazil desperately needed. Corruption charges have also damaged Lula's reputation to, perhaps, a point of no return.

The idealistic movement behind the PT party, which led to President Lula's election, has now been discarded as a populist façade. All the while, President Lula has lost his virtue in the horrifically complicated game of Brazilian politics, a process in which he also lost the support of many of his own people. His presidency was never declared to be about money, now it is awash in it.

This analysis was prepared by COHA Research Associate Emily Kirksey

The Council on Hemispheric Affairs (COHA) - www.coha.org - is a think tank established in 1975 to discuss and promote inter-American relationship. Email: This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .



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America is a s**t hole
written by Guest, June 21, 2006
America's Bush was already everything we hated.
America is a s**t hole with nothing to offer but the prospect of being in debt and maybe making a decent living.

Americans are the s**ttiest people on earth. Black Americans treat each other like total s**t. If you don't toe the party line they will make your life a living hell. White Americans are culturally BANKRUPT. They don't know drumming from drooling. Americans are cynical and negative about everything. If roads aren't perfectly paved, if they don't have 5000 TV channels, and they can't stuff their fat faces for 24 hours straight they will whine until you can't hear yourself think. I hate America, I want your money not your friendship. f**k it! I don't want your money, give me mine back. I am taking my funloving black butt to Bahia to spend the rest of my youth basking in the glow of peace, culture, and life.
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written by Guest, June 21, 2006
I am taking my funloving black butt to Bahia to spend the rest of my youth basking in the glow of peace, culture, and life.

Until some Bahian brotha puts a cap in your ass for 2 reais to buy some glue. Good luck with your plans, everything will be just peachy in Bahia - ROLFLMAO
Expect too much!
written by Guest, June 21, 2006
Gosh, Lula is one man building a pyramid by himself. With time, it will be done. This is an education for him, too.
Chavez and Brazilian politics have taught him a sobering series of lessons, and probably will again and again.
Let the lesser of many evils be the yard stick by which we measure him. But give the guy a chance.
Negative Propaganda
written by Guest, June 21, 2006
Just another Negative Propaganda in the Election Year

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written by Guest, June 21, 2006
America's Bush was already everything we hated.
America is a s**t hole with nothing to offer but the prospect of being in debt and maybe making a decent living.

Americans are the s**ttiest people on earth. Black Americans treat each other like total s**t. If you don't toe the party line they will make your life a living hell. White Americans are culturally BANKRUPT. They don't know drumming from drooling. Americans are cynical and negative about everything. If roads aren't perfectly paved, if they don't have 5000 TV channels, and they can't stuff their fat faces for 24 hours straight they will whine until you can't hear yourself think. I hate America, I want your money not your friendship. f**k it! I don't want your money, give me mine back. I am taking my funloving black butt to Bahia to spend the rest of my youth basking in the glow of peace, culture, and life.

Sniff, Sniff - did that sting little fella?? Did the bad lady hurt your feelings? As the other poster said - good luck in Bahia!! When you're lying face down in the gutter, bleeding out from a gunshot wound from a homemade .22 I want you to think about this post. Now go and cry us a river there poor little thing - SNIFF SNIFF

Predictions for future responses

BLA BLA BLA - "I hate Americans . . . I want your money (heard that one plenty of times in the past) not your friendship" - you have friends??. "I want my money back" - Unfortunately for you I don't think the guys you paid for that blowjob in the bathroom stall give refunds . . .
You hate Americans!
written by Guest, June 22, 2006
That is just fine.
then why do write this on a Personal Computer, a U.S. invention?
Why do you travel in planes built by and in the USA ?
You are not against the USA when they create jobs....in Brazil.
This is just a few examples within many !

You are not against the USA when you have an annual trade surplus of well over US$ 12 billions.
You even want more, because it is never enough for you....you are unable to consume all what you produce due o your majority of population in poverrtyc. Without such a huge trade surplus, by simple definition you would sell LESS to them....creating less development and more unemployment in your s**tty country that has been mismanaged for 2 centuries..

In Brazil only a few things work perfectly : corruption to the roots at all levels, wealth inequality, police corruption and killings of thousands of innocents..... ANNUALLY !

Did you know that there is far more violent deaths annually in Brazil than in Iraq ????

Are you at war....with yourselves ?????

Brazil has always pissed on the countries that helped you....while you were strugglinfg...so many times in the recent past !

What is happening in your country is a shame to humanity, you are a medieval country, you have no rule of laws and that is why you dont develop as fast as ALL the other developing countries.

Simply stated you are LOOSERS.
Simply stated you are ONLY a Boom and Bust economy.

Finally if you hate Americans why are you so many millions who have only one dream : to get out of your s**tty country to reside and work in the HELL country that America is ????.

Curiously there are not millions of Americans dreaming of residing in Brazil !


Guess why !
Ok fine
written by Guest, June 22, 2006
Esta bem. I was the one who was wigging out about America and taking my black butt to Bahia. I was just having a crappy day because I got ganged up on by a bunch of black Americans who were whining about racism. I'm the only black person in America who thinks that the only color that matters anymore is green. Well I'm not going to have battles of wits with unarmed, emotional females anymore.
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written by Guest, June 22, 2006
Well at least you were big enough to own up to it - not many people will do that anymore. Props for that. BTW - just don't bother arguing with women - period! It's never worth the trouble . . .
Re: Your Black Butt
written by Guest, June 22, 2006
America will be a bit less of a s**thole when YOU leave!!
Same s**t Different Day
written by Trigio, June 23, 2006
Whow, seems this is a USA site no? All people giving there toughts without using names...just all guests...

USA is a s**thole? Yes it is, they are the kids of the scum of europe, who were banned there a long time ago.
And Brazilian people, you're not brazilian, you're from portugal wich is in Europe also. And robbed the land of the indians who lived there "because they did nothing with it"

Bom, and i am from europe, Belgium, yeah, a small country...

If you read the article carefully you know that it is bad propaganda. If Lula gives 1.07 tr. os salaries and 1.2 tr.on pensions... this is a f**king good thing !!! how do you want to keep people of the streets robing people if you don't give them an income ???

Hey, "Did you know that there is far more violent deaths annually in Brazil than in Iraq ???? " Is that before or after the US realised that there is oil in Iraq?

In my humble opinion, yes, Lula still has alot of work, thats i can't deny.
but if you see how the country was before it is hard to say that it could get worse.

Should they give him a second election... i don't know...
It is a fact he did not realised all that he promised in the elections but who did ??? Tell me, Bush??

And why this bad propaganda? Except for Imbev, the Us is the greatest investor in Brasil, looks like a copy of Cuba where the US just waits for Fidel to die unthil they can INVADE the county and make some excellent resorts for the rich while the poor people, well, they stay poor don't they...

From my own opinion i've never seen as much people living on the streets as in NY-City and Brasil, where-ever you've been. As i stated before, i'm fron europe, we don't see that over there. BUT, what we do see and realise, the way we do it and want to keep it up, isn't working eather. The taxes i pay are not for my pension but for the pension of two generations before me.
So tell me, what is the good way to run a country???

I thing unthill now, nobody has ever been there.

May you all live in happiness and peace.

T.
Trou de Cul de la Belgique . . .
written by Guest, June 23, 2006
"Bom, and i am from europe, Belgium, yeah, a small country..."

Yeah good for you dips**t. We all know Belgians hate themselves and their lives in that RAINY HELLHOLE. One of the highest suicide rates in the world!! I actually lived in Belgium for a year - in Auderghem - are you a Flamootch? Eh mon con?

Yeah I was just back in Belgium on business not too long ago and I can say without reservation that Belgians are the UGLIEST MOTHERf**kERS IN THE WORLD!!! You are probably an ugly f**ker yourself- am I right? Bet I am. I can only imagine why you went to Brazil - prostitution?? I would to if I had to wake up next to a woman as ugly as your mother!! I didn't see ONE good looking woman the whole time I was there - no exaggeration!!

Yes tell us how wonderful Belgium is with its ENORMOUS inflow of robbing, lying and murdering Poles, Serbs and Arabs. Walking down Rue Neuve in Brussels is like walking down the street in Riyadh anymore. Belgians are some of the most racist motherf**kers on earth as well trou de cul! Tell us are you a flamootch or francophone? Are you in Vlams Blok idiot?

You've seen more people in the streets in NYC or Brazil have you? Well that's nice when you come from a country whose entire population is smaller than the pop. of NYC. See big, influential countries like the US and Brazil s**t bigger than Belgium. Brazil may have problems but it absolutely dwarfs your EU supported economy. Keep handing out that welfare so Tunisians and Turks can keep breeding like Rabbits and replace your ugly, pale white ass there mon con!! My guess is they'll behead you first. I have to laugh when I think about you walking the streets in Belgium like a f**king coward because some Tunisian or Serb is looking at you like he wants to kill your dumb ass . . . Have fun bitch!!!
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written by Guest, June 23, 2006
Brazil may have problems but it absolutely dwarfs your EU supported economy. Keep handing out that welfare so Tunisians and Turks can keep breeding like Rabbits and replace your ugly, pale white ass there mon con!!

Wow the level of civility in this post is inspiring. A touch of nationalism, sprinkled with racism with a big dollop of ignorance. Another typical Brazilian dish.
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written by Guest, June 23, 2006
Wow the level of civility in this post is inspiring. A touch of nationalism, sprinkled with racism with a big dollop of ignorance. Another typical Brazilian dish.

We can only assume you're an American serving up a big dollop of hypocrisy!! Is there a more typical dish from the US though? Oh and this coming from someone who probably doesn't even possess a passport nor been to Belgium to actually speak to anything he thinks he knows about . . .
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written by Guest, June 23, 2006


Thanks LOL I hear that...
EU supported economy ??????
written by Guest, June 24, 2006
By whom ? Brazil...may be ?????

What a joke !!!!!
From a EU forum member !
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written by Guest, June 24, 2006
quote:

"Bom, and i am from europe, Belgium, yeah, a small country... "

Yeah, you're population of your entire country is surpassed by Atlanta Georgia, lol.

Quite hard to talk about social programs for a handful in comparison to 300 MILLION....wouldn't ya say there Norgie??

And if Europe is so great, then why is Fortaleza and Natal full of you norgies chasing prostitutes???
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written by Guest, June 24, 2006
yeah, I met a norgie here in brazil a while back, he was on "medical leave"....buddies with his doctor ya know, has a 2 month a year "hiatus" from work because of "asthma"...trying to get it extended to three months. And where did he come to my city from??

Fortaleza! Planeloads of you "euros" arriving everyday...and the airports full of p**as waiting on your stupid asses with your euros($$).

He told me all about the muslim situation in belgium...not too good eh? Raping your women and all...obeying islamic law but not the law of the land.

And your inept gov't., police force(LOL), military(ROTFL), doesn't and can't do anything about it.

Trying to get a 3rd month added to that "hiatus"....to spend an extra 30 days chasing whores. Wonderful country that belgium...rain and cold, ugly women and radical muslims....wow, where can I sign-up?
What happen to Lula
written by Guest, June 24, 2006
I thought the article was about Lulas failings not bashign everyone elses country. Brazil and most of Latin America have "boom and Bust" economies becasue of foriegn manipulation of their economies. HOWEVER, you all have been in charge of your own fate or many decades and what have you done for yourselves? Lula, is a putz, he found out being a leader of all Brazilians is allot harder than he thought. If I got a dollar for everytime I heard if I was the President, I"d change...., I"d be a millionaire. Talk is easy, doing it is something else entirely. Lula is not the worst leader brazil has ever had, but he will not fix Brazils problems because many of the hard decisions he has to mak will angier his party and the voters. If you all have no noticed bu these posts, people do not like leaders that take a stance and follow through despite the names like people on this post call you. That is what Brazil needs or it's poor will forever be victims of the gangs and their politicians.
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written by Guest, June 24, 2006
EU supported economy ??????
Written by Guest on 2006-06-24 00:16:24
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By whom ? Brazil...may be ?????

What a joke !!!!!
From a EU forum member !

WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT RETARD??!!!

Belgium is an EU supported economy - is it not?? What a dips**t. Yeah ok Mr.EU forum member. This demonstrates the disparity between how intelligent and superior Europeans think they are and how intelligent they are in reality!
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written by Guest, June 24, 2006
the richer european countries, which belgium is one, benefits very little from the EU....the poorer countries are by far the greatest benefactor of the european union.

That's why many countries really don't want to participate too much in the E.U....ie. England.
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written by Guest, June 24, 2006
--We can only assume you're an American serving up a big dollop of hypocrisy!! --

well you assume wrong, and have proven my point about ignorance yet again. Regarding a passport, I´ve probably been to more countries than you could find on a map. Being untraveled, and uneducated is a Brazilian trait. Nice try though.
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written by Guest, June 25, 2006
Regarding a passport, I´ve probably been to more countries than you could find on a map. Being untraveled, and uneducated is a Brazilian trait. Nice try though.

Yeah - you really sound like a worldly guy! LMAO!!
Re: above posts....
written by Guest, June 26, 2006
Well, in fairness to the bloke that mentioned Belgium, all EU countries receive benefits and support from the European Union, including my own country, Britain. I'm right in saying that the Dutch contribute the greatest per capita amount to the EU and the French receive the greatest agricultural subsidy (this was one of the reasons that the Dutch regected the proposed EU constitution).
Perhaps the original commentator meant by 'EU supported economy' that with the EU headquarters being sited in Brussels, then Belgium would, as a whole, recieve a great deal of financial benefit due to the truly vast beauracracy associated with it. As for Britain not being too keen on full intergration with Europe (currency, armed forces etc), I think this is more due to historical factors than a sense of anything else. We have, after all, fought against nearly all the old countries of Europe, and the British mindset does not easily forget. Of course, the adoption of the Euro is, in my view, inevitable for my country in the long run, despite the US regarding it as an already failed experiment. I think this is just hubris on the part of the States. Euope is far from a failed experiment. Regarding military integration, this is a burning issue: it is one of the least addressed and yet a most pressing problem for the EU. For example, the French want overall command in any situation, but they clearly cannot fight and win any proper war -- their stance against Germany in two world wars should be ample warning of this. The French distrust the British, and we, the British, in turn feel lary of putting our troops under the command of any nation (even in Iraq there are clear limits and vetos). So, see my point? But this is an important dilemma. It is not a lack of money, as Europe has it in huge globs. It is just a lack of political capacity to see a way through. In my opinion the US has a right to expect Europe to be clearly able to defend itself without recourse to the States if or when the s**t hits the fan.
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written by Guest, June 26, 2006
The USA is a Warmonger.
Did you ever hear that saying, " Who ever lives by the sword dies by the sword. " The US is heading in this direction. Just like the Greek, Roman, Portugal and Spain Emperios.

There will be new empires and the is will be history, " A wonce upon a time super power.

Invincable? Justice for all? One Nation under GOD?

tell me about it?!

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written by Guest, June 26, 2006
quote:

"There will be new empires and the is will be history, " A wonce upon a time super power. "

The question is will YOU live to see it?

The answer is a fairly predictable....NO!

So, accept it buddy boy, ain't gonna happen in YOUR lifetime!

Re: Above post
written by Guest, June 27, 2006
I suppose it depends on how old the bloke is. China seems to be offering a real future challenge to the US, don't you think? I'm not so sure about India. What do people think about GW's statement a couple of years ago that America would not allow any country to militarily or economically challenge it's world supremacy?
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written by Guest, June 27, 2006
I think China has a LONG way to go.

And if they don't fix their slave-like conditions for millions upon millions within the next 10-15 years, chances of some sort of revolution is much greater than everything going perfectly for them and seriously competing with the U.S.
Lose Your Personal Agenda!
written by Guest, June 27, 2006
The article was actually well written and thought provoking. Why do all of you use this space to wage your personal jihad against the USA? Nobody is interested in your personal problems, which are boring and insignificant.
Yessiree
written by Guest, June 27, 2006
That last post has it right... stop using this space to vent your stupid personal problems. By the way, I heard that the woman who wrote this article is a babe.
Brasil? USA?
written by Guest, June 27, 2006
Well I like both countries. I like the USA for what it used to stand for and its high standard of living. I like Brasil for its culture and people and it is a beautiful country but so isnt many parts of the USA. I know many many Brasilians who have come to the USA for a better life since Brasil cant offer that. I also know some rich Americans who call Brasil home. So what can I say both countries have huge issues but so doesnt the entire world. I remember a Brasilian told me a saying they have "God made the land beautiful but the people he put on the land are ugly." Brasilians have a defeated nature when it comes to their government. They have succombed to the rampant coruption and a appathetic similar to the US situation with the war President and his version of obscene coruption which includes death of innocents. With alot of money I would be kicking it on a special little beach in Santa Caterina without alot of money I live and work in California. My wife is Brasilian and I am American and I really appreciate both Brasil and the USA. So now we the people need to make the changes so both our countries are great places to be.
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written by Guest, June 28, 2006
quote:

"They have succombed to the rampant coruption and a appathetic similar to the US situation with the war President and his version of obscene coruption which includes death of innocents."

I think it's difficult, and unfair, to try and attempt to compare a country and its problems that ARE NOT at war, with a country that IS at war, and making that WAR the specific example of negativity about said country.

One day, hopefully soon, the Iraq war will end.....and brazil?

When talking about "quality of life", people need to ask themselves specific questions, and these questions can be put in respect to what countries offer them.

Opportunity?

Access to Education?

Security?

Infrastructure?

The U.S. provides these things, they exist, and for nearly all. In brazil they are either faulty, or are only available for some.
One Way Tickets Available to Brazil
written by Guest, June 28, 2006
Anyone who doesn't like the USA can get a one-way ticket to Brazil at my expense. It would be worth it to reduce the whining, Bush-bashing and stupid pontificating.

If the USA is so bad, why are all those illegal aliens flocking here?

Does anyone know anything about the author of this article or the organization that sponsored it?
Puppet for the Left
written by Guest, June 28, 2006
It's some liberal outfit in DC that's a puppet for the left. Most of their staff are summer interns, although this particular writer seems to know what she's talking about.
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written by Guest, June 28, 2006
quote:

"Education is not the only area of social change where Lula has fallen short of expectations. From 1995 to 2004, the federal government spent 1.07 trillion reais (US$ 478 billion) on bureaucratic salaries and 1.2 trillion reais (US$ 540 billion) on pensions.

In that same time period, the government invested only 884 billion reais (US$ 395 billion) in health, education, social security and infrastructure combined."

Brazil spent LESS than 40% on HEALTH, EDUCATION, SOCIAL SECURITY, AND INFRASTRUCTURE....

than they did on BUREAUCRATIC SALARIES AND PENSIONS.....

And they wonder why it's so f**ked up.
Kiss Your Mother with that Mouth?
written by Guest, June 29, 2006
Hey, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

By the way, the figures you're criticizing don't tell the whole story and aren't comparable to US figures in the same categories. For example, more blood-sucking pensions in the US are funded by private corporations (why do you think General Motors is about to go under?) than in Brazil.

Similarly, more education is privately funded in the US than in Brazail, so it's hard to compare %s in the two countries.

But overall, you're right. Brazil is a corrupt country with no middle class... just the ultra rich and the desperately poor.

You can thank your lucky stars that you're in the USA.
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written by Guest, June 29, 2006
they're not talking about corportate pensions Einstein....they're talking about BUREAUCRATIC SALARIES AND PENSIONS...in other words, GOVERNMENT WORKERS, POLITICIANS!

Do you think the U.S. spends MORE on GOVERNMENT SALARIES AND PENSIONS than they do on EDUCATION, SOCIAL SECURITY, AND INFRASTRUCTURE????

Of course not....it doesn't even COME CLOSE!

And I'm not in the U.S......you shouldn't ASSUME!

I've been getting a first-hand taste of this corrupt environment for TEN YEARS!
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written by Guest, June 29, 2006
quote:

"Similarly, more education is privately funded in the US than in Brazail, so it's hard to compare %s in the two countries."


YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY AND UNEQUIVOCABLY WRONG!!!!

Obviously you don't konw brazil very well!!

The VAST majority of pre-schools, elementary schools, and high schools in brazil are PRIVATE, that are paid for 100% by the parents of the students!!!!

The ONLY people that study in the public education system in brazil are the POOR!
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written by Guest, June 29, 2006
The first blogger is actually right... more $$$ are spent on private education (private schools, colleges and universities) in the USA than in Brazil BY FAR. These numbers can be researched easily.

And the blogger is also right about in his comments about pensions made by the private sector in the US. The person criticizing this blogger didn't say that the author or the article was talking about corporate pensions. He was just making a point, and a good one at that.

It's easy to tell who are the fanatics on these blogs by the language and insults they hurl around.

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written by Guest, June 30, 2006
quote:

"The first blogger is actually right... more $$$ are spent on private education (private schools, colleges and universities) in the USA than in Brazil BY FAR. These numbers can be researched easily."

Couldn't that be attributed to the fact that the number of students is FAR greater in the U.S. than in Brazil?

Couldn't it also be attributed to education, especially university education, is far more expensive in the states than in brazil, and also the value of the two currencies...the dollar and real?

The point of the post was GOVERNMENT MONEY, taxpayer monies, how are they being spent?

In brazil they spend significantly more percentage wise of TAXPAYER money on government salaries and pensions, than they do on education, infrastructure, and social security.
Lula is the best
written by Guest, July 03, 2006
The best example of how-not-to-do-it. The best example of how undeducated our people is, starting with he himself. The best example of how to screw up the majority of the population really bad without any remorse or repercussion. The best example on how to be in bed with the bad guys and to love being gang-banged. AND GUESS WHAT: he may win again!
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written by Guest, July 04, 2006
quote:

"AND GUESS WHAT: he may win again!"

There's no MAY about it....you've got 4 more years of that illiterate thief!
Re: Above post...
written by Judge Dread, July 17, 2006
'Lula the Illiterate' Has a sort of ring to it, don't you think? We should keep it.
SHUT UP!
written by a guest, August 08, 2006
i don't see why any of this s**t matters...the usa has issues/brasil has issues...just because you are known for 'shallow' people (who not all are gorgeous but are human) don't make you the best...and just cause we are known for 'money hungry' people (who are not all rich but completely broke!) don't make us the best either...it don't matter anymore...everyone is mixing as soon as they get to the usa...so basically when u say 'we are so'...whatever you are talking about yourselves...enough said, no end this god for saken bulls**t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smilies/wink.gif
Brazil Lula Has Become All He use to Hate
written by Robert l Birt, August 29, 2006
:If the writer is looking for the great man that will change the nation and deliver a better life for all then Lula is not the one. That great leader was placed on a cross and had a spear thrust into his side. In Lula you have a man that understand leadership and behavioral change to accomplish group goals. How easy it is to find fault with a gifted leader. You should be thankful that Brazil has been blessed with a leader like Lula you could have a half wit like we have in the United States in the person of George Bush.

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