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Black Youth Take Over the Racial Torch in Brazil PDF Print E-mail
2006 - July 2006
Written by Phillip Wagner   
Friday, 14 July 2006 08:58

Negra Jhô, one of the participants at the Second CIAD in Bahia, BrazilAn emotional speech from a young audience member, articulating with great passion the frustrations, skepticism and fears of Black youth in Brazil, galvanized Brazilian Black youth attending a panel discussion that had to that point been highlighted by the hip-hop Black Baptist delivery of remarks by noted African-American author, activist and intellectual Michael Eric Dyson.

Dyson's contribution had registered the only standing ovation among the distinguished panel members, which included renown Afro-Brazilian Black movement architect João Jorge Rodrigues of Grupo Cultural Olodum, Brazilian singer and composer Toni Garrido, Helder Malauene of the Foundation for Community Development in Mozambique and Denise Campbell from the Canadian Committee of National Action for the Condition of Women.

The panel topic, focusing on "New Cultural Expressions" in Africa and the Diaspora drew an extraordinarily young audience relative to other presentations at the conference. The interplay and exchange among panelists and between panelists and the audience was open and direct, if generally respectful.

João Jorge echoed the Black anger reflected in his highly regarded contribution to the 1990s text "Black Brazil; Culture, Identity and Social Mobilization," edited by Larry Crook and Randal Johnson, suggesting that if dramatic progress would not soon be realized "the streets should run red with blood from revolution." But the young music composer and singer Garrido, though clearly awed to be sharing the panel with Rodrigues, argued that violence was not the answer.

Garrido, noting that he was adopted, offered the floor to his white brother to explain a philosophy to which he also subscribes. The explanation was delayed however, when the protest of an audience member - apparently unaware that Ricardo Garrido had also been invited to participate on the panel and deferred in order to avoid giving voice to "too many Garrido's" - interrupted the proceedings.

The elder brother, Ricardo, later offered his explanation: "We now know that all humans originated from Africa," he said. "The fact that some members of our species migrated to other locations and climates, which produced variations in physical appearance including differences in skin color, hair and so forth cannot change that. If blood is spilled in the streets," he noted, "African blood will be spilled" regardless of the color of the skin of those who bleed since we all have our origins in the African continent.

While articulating the overwhelming challenges facing Black youth in her own country, Jamaican-born Campbell, who describes herself as "Senegalese at heart," asserted that "energy is coming from young people ... it just needs to be supported."

Dyson later complemented these words, chiding the elder generation for always failing to recognize that "part of the journey toward self-love" - which he cited as essential to the advance of Black unity - "is the permission we give our children to experiment with their identities."

Dyson spoke eloquently to, and was well-received by, the young Black Brazilian audience about the "tragic rejection of the best tradition of the struggle for freedom" in the African Diaspora, including Brazil, which is "the fact of African people losing limbs laboring for the 'bling bling,' the gold and diamonds" extracted from African mines. His references to and recital of hip-hop lyrics, infused with the passion of his Black Baptist roots seemed to liberate the energy of a previously sedate audience.

It was within the frame of the energy generated by Dyson's delivery that a young Brazilian woman named Sueli, perhaps in her late teens or early twenties, rose to challenge the conference organizers and panelists to explain the justification of their expenditures on the conference absent direct investment in the Black youth of Brazil. "How much of this money is going to our Black youth?" she petitioned.

A spellbound auditorium listened as Sueli protested the social depravity of disproportionately incarcerating Black Brazilian males and demanded to know what opportunities - what jobs - will be realized by Black youth in Brazil as a result of the convocation.

When she completed her address to the panel the room erupted in a roar of applause that lasted for some minutes. Other young Black Brazilians preceded and followed Sueli, expressing similar frustrations. Black Brazilian youth at CIAD II in Bahia have served notice that more than words must come from international assemblies celebrating the African Diaspora.

About the Author: Phillip Wagner is a longtime contributor to Brazzil Magazine, the founder of Rhythm of Hope in Brazil at http://www.rhythmofhope.org and currently an Assistant Instructor in the Department of African-American and African Diaspora Studies at Indiana University, where he is pursuing a second post-graduate degree. Phillip has extensive Brazil related personal web-pages at http://www.iei.net/~pwagner/brazilhome.htm and can be reached via email at pwagner@iei.net.

 



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African Diaspora
written by Observer, July 15, 2006
Great article! It is a great example of the diversity of Black people and the challenges that face them all over the world. Although there is still work to do....there are uncountable examples of our daily accomplishments and achievements!!!!
True
written by Yadda, July 16, 2006
True words.
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written by Judge Dread, July 17, 2006
So, some guy thinks that if he doesn't get his way "the streets should run red with blood from revolution." This sounds like open incitement to revolution and violence, which as far as I know is a crime. Anyone from the authorities reading this article? And as for all that 'out of Africa' stupidity, forget it. Tell me one thing that Africa has contributed to the world apart from fraud, corruption and wholesale massacare on a continent-wide scale? You stupid buggers think that space flight, the telephone, aircraft, the car, trains, fax machines, a well oiled legal system, etc. were African inventions? Take a second look yo-yos and you'll discover it was the white man that did it.
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written by Yadda, July 17, 2006
Hey, Judge Deadhead, we're all African. The only difference is that some African-descendents like you have no soul or intelligence. All inventions are human inventions.
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written by bahialuv, July 17, 2006
I feel sorry for the poster that is so filled with hate. A truly intelligent, loving, decent human being would never write such hateful comments on a public forum. I have enjoyed this ezine and after reading the above comments, I felt compelled to make this my first posting. A history lesson: Not all Africans were captured, kidnapped and sold into slavery. Some Africans were kicked out of Africa because of their evil attitudes. These people were given into slavery to rid Africa of THEM. I know for sure, in another life; YOU were one of them. Unfortunely, you still remain in slavery.
Black Brazilian Youths
written by Maximus IV, July 17, 2006
Good for Sueli. Talk is all these intellectuals are capable of. I have a very high opinion of Dr Dyson, and respect his intellect, wit, humor, and candor for speaking out about issues that directly affect Black people. I have said this before and will say it again, Blacks were moved enmasse from Africa for a reason, which I believe was done to help future generations of Blacks on the African Continent. African Americans are the wealthiest of all Blacks of African descent, and are in the best position to effect economy of scale changes in the lives of less fortunate Blacks on this planet.
Race not equals people
written by Heitor, July 18, 2006
It's unbelievable how members of a fractured society such as the american think they can tell what's wrong in others. But what those people are seeking is to grab attention, if possible create controversy, for fueling the debate where they would cry and whine how oppressed they are.

It seems they can't contain the hate within themselves, they need to spread it. Racial hatred. What's next? A Ku klux klan convention in Brazil? WE DON'T NEED THAT.

Although you will try I don't you will make it, to contaminate this country with a "racial purity" the same way it's in the US, because there's too much mixing in here.

Living my entire life in Brazil and having white, black and indian ancestors I don't have words to express how alien this concept of is for brazilian. I have seen diversity at my home and not only through TV and politically correct speeches. And had many friends in the same situation. The talk we often hear from such "intellectuals" that blacks are only in favelas, only poor, is complete BULLs**t. Or else I wouldn't be here writing in English today.

About Bahia, I wish I could like that place. I really wish, but I cannot respect a state where people I'd rather party than work. It's no surprise that a bunch of dirty poor immigrants came from some God forsaken place running either from war or poverty and managed to make Sao Paulo what it is and a bunch of "carnavalescos" bahianos didn't make the same for Bahia. THEY SHOULD WORK MORE, PARTY LESS.
So....
written by Judge Dread, July 18, 2006
What your missing guys (notice I said guys not gays), is a simple truth of nature. Don't blame me or my kind because you're incapable of doing anything but defraude charitable, Christian countries that help you. I notice, for all your anger, that you have nothing to counter my argument. Where are the African inventions? It's a fair question, isn't it? Just tell me where are all the African (black African) imputs into humanity? I didn't see much of a intelligent counter in your posts--oh sorry what was it, I'm full of hate. Nice try, but not enough.
Response To Judge Dread
written by Charles, July 18, 2006
I felt compelled to respond to Judge Dread. In this world of the internet, all you have to do is go to Black Inventors on the web, and you will discover what Blacks have achieved. Is it the traffic light, or the blood plasma, or the air conditioning unit, or the design of Washington D.C by Benjamin Banneker. I can bet my life, you are not college educated, you are the type of person that is only good at criticizing others.
Another pissed off white dude
written by Lord Invader, July 18, 2006
So, some guy thinks that if he doesn't get his way "the streets should run red with blood from revolution." This sounds like open incitement to revolution and violence, which as far as I know is a crime. Anyone from the authorities reading this article? And as for all that 'out of Africa' stupidity, forget it. Tell me one thing that Africa has contributed to the world apart from fraud, corruption and wholesale massacare on a continent-wide scale? You stupid buggers think that space flight, the telephone, aircraft, the car, trains, fax machines, a well oiled legal system, etc. were African inventions? Take a second look yo-yos and you'll discover it was the white man that did it.

Africa never gave the world a George W. Bush, or, better yet, somebody as ignorant as you.

The next time you brag about your Western achievements, look at where they led you--look at where they led the world. DOWN THE TOILET!!
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written by Lord Invader, July 18, 2006
What your missing guys (notice I said guys not gays), is a simple truth of nature. Don't blame me or my kind because you're incapable of doing anything but defraude charitable, Christian countries that help you. I notice, for all your anger, that you have nothing to counter my argument. Where are the African inventions? It's a fair question, isn't it? Just tell me where are all the African (black African) imputs into humanity? I didn't see much of a intelligent counter in your posts--oh sorry what was it, I'm full of hate. Nice try, but not enough.

Judge Dumb-ass, take your head out of your ass.

Put the meth down.

Now, let's accept reality.

Reality being,

Your people (Caucasians) are destroying the planet.

Ouch.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

You can get all whiny and sanctimonious about a bunch of ignorant Africans defrauding Christian charities, but since Africa was dominated by Europeans for many decades, I'm sure they learmed from the best!
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written by a guest, July 18, 2006
Judge Dread is definitely an uneducated fool and on the pipe. LOL!
wtf
written by pete, July 18, 2006
Justt send them all back to africa! Bunch of ignorant f**ks... it is more then proved that 90% of black people would rather do anything but work. Look at Bahia what a s**thole that place is and look at places where white immigrants settled.

On the inventions matter... "In this world of the internet, all you have to do is go to Black Inventors on the web, and you will discover what Blacks have achieved. Is it the traffic light, or the blood plasma, or the air conditioning unit, or the design of Washington D.C by Benjamin Banneker"

What the f**k? Traffic lights? Yea thanks. Now go check white inventions... easily 100 times more than that. And guess who invented the internet? Not a black person. I guess we could do without traffict lights or air conditioner but imagine trying to leave with every single invention out there (of course thats except the 4 inventions of huge importance that you listed)

And by the way dumbass a white man invented internet if you got anything against us stop using it.
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written by Charles, July 18, 2006
I guess the appropriate response to your diatribe, Mr. 'I am so happy to be white" is this , what have you achieved as a human being. What have you personally contributed to this world, to the human race. As I said earlier, I am pretty sure you are uneducated, and based on your ignorance, I am sure if a dna test is run on you, it is most likely you will be outed as "not white person" I suggest you and Judge Dread get together, and move to Eastern Europe so that you can set up a community, and spawn little white racists, that is until you are outed and banned. Additionally, not that it would make any difference to you, but note that majority of these inventions I wrote about occurred when Blacks were still under the yoke of slavery.
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written by Lord Invader, July 18, 2006
Justt send them all back to africa! Bunch of ignorant f**ks... it is more then proved that 90% of black people would rather do anything but work. Look at Bahia what a s**thole that place is and look at places where white immigrants settled.

On the inventions matter... "In this world of the internet, all you have to do is go to Black Inventors on the web, and you will discover what Blacks have achieved. Is it the traffic light, or the blood plasma, or the air conditioning unit, or the design of Washington D.C by Benjamin Banneker"

What the f**k? Traffic lights? Yea thanks. Now go check white inventions... easily 100 times more than that. And guess who invented the internet? Not a black person. I guess we could do without traffict lights or air conditioner but imagine trying to leave with every single invention out there (of course thats except the 4 inventions of huge importance that you listed)

And by the way dumbass a white man invented internet if you got anything against us stop using it.


First, Just is only spelled with one "t", not two. Secondly, even the most honkified tourist to Brazil would rather go to that s**thole Bahia than that even bigger s**thole Blumenau, with those fat, pasty-skinned Kraut-type skanks you love so much.

And inventions? Guess who invented CIVILIZATION--yeah, you got it. NOT a white boy, and certainly not a retarded inbred monkey redneck like you. Now do like the last poster did and go the f**k back to Eastern Europe with the rest of your monkey tribe, you cracker s**t. smilies/angry.gif
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written by guest, July 19, 2006

First, Just is only spelled with one "t", not two. Secondly, even the most honkified tourist to Brazil would rather go to that s**thole Bahia than that even bigger s**thole Blumenau, with those fat, pasty-skinned Kraut-type skanks you love so much.

And inventions? Guess who invented CIVILIZATION--yeah, you got it. NOT a white boy, and certainly not a retarded inbred monkey redneck like you. Now do like the last poster did and go the f**k back to Eastern Europe with the rest of your monkey tribe, you cracker s**t.


Nice, you lack any argument so you correct my grammar? i know how you spell just, its justt that i dont give a s**t and i dont read what i typed before i posted because you people arent worth it.About the civilization i dont know what you are talking about, you think what africans had in africa was a civ.? You mean the bunch of tribes killing and raping each other?

rather go to that s**thole Bahia than that even bigger s**thole Blumenau

Hey, GENIUS im not talking about tourists. Tourists like anything. Tourists go to israel, palestine... and they find everything interesting, but ask them if they want to live there? They would say: no thanks, i would rather not live in a place where there are bombs flying around me.

And tourists go to bahia, they find it so awesome and interesting. But ask them if they think thats a nice place to spend a life? They would say? no thanks, i would rather spend my life in a place where people have white values.
Re: Above
written by Judge Dread, July 19, 2006
Don't worry about that silly sod correcting your grammar etc., because you're right when you say he's got no arguments. It's just a tactic. The bloke did the same to me over education, but I’ve got a Master’s so that’s screwed him properly.
The fact is these people have an agenda, and their pissed off that we’ve got wise to it. Their fed up because, finally, people are waking up to the fact that not one African country can pull itself out of the quagmire of s**t it’s in--even with massive amount of aid. They’re humpy because we’re not listening to the ‘it’s all the white mans fault’ crap any more.
I notice they say nothing about stopping the rampant political corruption in their ‘spiritual homeland’. Just take a look at Zimbabwe: once it was the breadbasket of Africa. Then the government took all the productive, profitable farms away from the white farmers, distributed some of them to their political cronies and gave the rest to a total shower of black Africans under ‘land reforms’. Now they’ve got no food and the silly buggers are all starving. That’s what the world needs, more bright ideas like that. Moreover, when the properties were vacated, the Zimbabwean blacks often burned the farms and crops. Take note of that, all you dim-wits: they didn’t eat the food; they didn’t live in the farm. No they destroyed everything then ran around complaining they were hungry. Clever people, don’t you think?
To Judge Dread
written by White Guy, July 19, 2006
Right on! And you see they play that racist s**t every time you say something they don't like.............
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written by guest, July 19, 2006
Does anyone remember that skit on Saturday Night Live with Chris Rock playing Nat X - that perpetually angry black man? I don't suppose it would make any difference to you if someone said that black men would have killed whites on the same scale if they had only been born indigenous to geographic areas more conducive to proteinaceous grains, animal husbandry and therefore division of labor and technological development on the scale that "white" societies managed. Funny history teaches us that Arabic, African and Asian peoples slaughtered one another on massive scales too. Oh well you can't be bothered with trivialities like historical fact.

Blacks like you claim to be equal with whites, as indeed you are, yet you claim, quite stupidly, that you are different in that you and other black men would not have killed as whites have were circumstances different with Africa possessing 50 caliber guns, grenades and tanks. Funny many Africans have those things now and look what they have done to one another in Liberia, Sudan, Ethiopia, Rwanda, etc. Do you recall how many blacks slaughtered one another in Rwanda? Even Hitler wasn't that efficient! This begs the question - are you equal to whites or do you think you are better? - reeks of racism to me . . .
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written by Lord Invader, July 19, 2006
Nice, you lack any argument so you correct my grammar? i know how you spell just, its justt that i dont give a s**t and i dont read what i typed before i posted because you people arent worth it.About the civilization i dont know what you are talking about, you think what africans had in africa was a civ.? You mean the bunch of tribes killing and raping each other?

If we're "not worth it," then why the hell do you even bother coming to a board about Brazil and arguing with us? Seems you're more preoccupied with us than you'd let on. And if you think you're so right about what you say, then why do you keep on screaming about it?

The truth is that you aren't right, that you pulled all your answers out of your ass. Nice try, redneck faggot.

Hey, GENIUS im not talking about tourists. Tourists like anything. Tourists go to israel, palestine... and they find everything interesting, but ask them if they want to live there? They would say: no thanks, i would rather not live in a place where there are bombs flying around me.

And tourists go to bahia, they find it so awesome and interesting. But ask them if they think thats a nice place to spend a life? They would say? no thanks, i would rather spend my life in a place where people have white values.


You mean, like Crawford, Texas? smilies/cheesy.gif Or better yet, Dumbass, Tennessee, population, 300, right? :smilies/smiley.gif
White Men Can\'t Think!
written by Lord Invader, July 19, 2006
Don't worry about that silly sod correcting your grammar etc., because you're right when you say he's got no arguments. It's just a tactic. The bloke did the same to me over education, but I’ve got a Master’s so that’s screwed him properly.
The fact is these people have an agenda, and their pissed off that we’ve got wise to it. Their fed up because, finally, people are waking up to the fact that not one African country can pull itself out of the quagmire of s**t it’s in--even with massive amount of aid. They’re humpy because we’re not listening to the ‘it’s all the white mans fault’ crap any more.
I notice they say nothing about stopping the rampant political corruption in their ‘spiritual homeland’. Just take a look at Zimbabwe: once it was the breadbasket of Africa. Then the government took all the productive, profitable farms away from the white farmers, distributed some of them to their political cronies and gave the rest to a total shower of black Africans under ‘land reforms’. Now they’ve got no food and the silly buggers are all starving. That’s what the world needs, more bright ideas like that. Moreover, when the properties were vacated, the Zimbabwean blacks often burned the farms and crops. Take note of that, all you dim-wits: they didn’t eat the food; they didn’t live in the farm. No they destroyed everything then ran around complaining they were hungry. Clever people, don’t you think?


Agenda? Yes, that's right. Getting rid of Nazi scum like you is one of our top priorities. People around the world have smelled the coffee, they see the mess that Eurotrash have made in Africa, especially Southern Africa, with their bulls**t legacy of apartheid, economic exploitation, authoritarian politics, etc. People see what a horrible eyesore Iraq has become, thanks to whitey's continuing support of Saddam BEFORE 1990 and later whitey's trashing the country repeatedly after Saddam decided he'd done enough dicksucking. The whole world is in a funk, thanks to Western man's economic and political "adventures," but the honky keeps wanting to wash his hands clean of the mess he's made. So what does he do? Blame the n****rs for this, blame the w*****ks for that, and blame the Jews for everything else. These poor limeys get all hot and bothered about Robert Mugabe because Mugabe kicked whities off their land. (Awwww, poor babies.) They speak of black political/economic mismanagement in Zimbabwe....while cleverly overlooking the fact that Mugabe and Co. received their political training from the white settlers!

Face it--the world would have been a better place if Europeans(and especially you f**king English) had stayed in Europe, where you belong!!
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written by Lord Invader, July 19, 2006
Blacks like you claim to be equal with whites, as indeed you are, yet you claim, quite stupidly, that you are different in that you and other black men would not have killed as whites have were circumstances different with Africa possessing 50 caliber guns, grenades and tanks. Funny many Africans have those things now and look what they have done to one another in Liberia, Sudan, Ethiopia, Rwanda, etc. Do you recall how many blacks slaughtered one another in Rwanda? Even Hitler wasn't that efficient! This begs the question - are you equal to whites or do you think you are better? - reeks of racism to me . . .

Funny how you bring up Rwanda, when several of your white Aryan brothers have been caught redhanded in Iraq, pillaging, looting, raping and burning little girls. BTW, the Frogs organized the Rwanda massacre behind the scenes. And what's Rwanda, compared to Auchwitz? Or Papa Joe Stalin's gulags?

You guys really don't have an arguement, don't you see? smilies/cool.gif
To Invader
written by Judge Dread, July 19, 2006
You missed the thingy about the Zimbabwe comment. The point was that blacks just laid waist to the land, without even thinking of feeding themselves or considering it as an asset. That’s why they’re stupid, and that’s why I say that the white man should call you on your idiot propaganda about ‘equality’. That’s why I commented on the lack, almost unbelievable lack, of any black inventions. Just because you lot want something to be so doesn’t mean it is, and no amount meetings and forums, debates and jumping up and down banging jungle drums will change it. All I ask of you lot is know your place. And you’re right I’m English.
Rwanda......
written by guest, July 19, 2006
Actually dude, Rwanda was much worse than Auchwitz. Didn't you know that?
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written by Judge Dread, July 19, 2006
"Face it--the world would have been a better place if Europeans(and especially you f**king English) had stayed in Europe, where you belong!!"


It must piss you off somewhat then to speak English, No? LOL
The English are brilliant--not.
written by Lord Invader, July 19, 2006
You missed the thingy about the Zimbabwe comment. The point was that blacks just laid waist to the land, without even thinking of feeding themselves or considering it as an asset. That’s why they’re stupid, and that’s why I say that the white man should call you on your idiot propaganda about ‘equality’. That’s why I commented on the lack, almost unbelievable lack, of any black inventions. Just because you lot want something to be so doesn’t mean it is, and no amount meetings and forums, debates and jumping up and down banging jungle drums will change it. All I ask of you lot is know your place. And you’re right I’m English.

No, I didn't. MY point was that these Zimbabewans were conditioned by British thinking(the British settlers ran their country for years, dumbass), and that's why they acted the way they did. My OTHER point was that if these British f**ks stayed away from Southern Africa to begin with, they would have done just fine. History shows they did perfectly well without Brits. In fact, the world did very well without the f**king British. The f**king British created the India/Pakistan conflict, the United States of America(nuff said), the current Mideast Crisis, and of course the North and South Sudanese crisis, just as a start.

You simple-minded British f**ks need to get a clue. The one good thing you a*****es gave to the world was Monty Python's Flying Circus. Other than that, you hardly invented anything(whereas African-Americans invented the elevator, the mailbox, the mobile refrigeration unit, the traffic light, the gas mask, among other things), except this f**ked-up world we live in.

I agree that you Brits are not on our level. We don't want equality with you, because the last thing black people want is to live side by side with a bunch of smelly, stringy-haired, crooked, violent, sexually perverted lager louts, the most barbaric people in the history of the world. Say what you want about Rwanda or the Congo, but they just don't quite measure up when it comes to your history as English people!!
Auchwitz....
written by Lord Invader, July 19, 2006
Actually dude, Rwanda was much worse than Auchwitz. Didn't you know that?

Duh, twelve million people died in Hitler's Final Solution, and about 400,000 to 500,000 in Rwanda(aided by your butt-buddies, the Frounch). AUCHWITZ is a byword for the f**king Holocaust.

Or didn't you know that?

Dumbf**k.
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written by Lord Invader, July 19, 2006
It must piss you off somewhat then to speak English, No? LOL

I can speak several languages, thank you. BTW, I can speak and write YOUR language infinitely better than you ever will, which speaks volumes about your so-called superiority.
Here we go....
written by Judge Dread, July 20, 2006
Originally, I was the one accused of being full of hate, but now I see that you have far surpassed me on that level. I knew it was only a matter of time before your proper nature came out. Strange isn’t it that in today’s coffee-coloured culture, if you want to assert influence, you are no longer required to win an argument or build a constituency of support; you merely have to say you’re right and are acting out of ‘conscience’ for the oppressed of the world – in your case the poor blacks of the world.
Get over yourself.
No wonder there is no peace
written by bahialuv, July 20, 2006
I posted earlier and my orginial thoughts are the same:

I feel sorry for the poster(s) that is so filled with hate. A truly intelligent, loving, decent human being would never write such hateful comments on a public forum.
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written by Lord Invader, July 20, 2006
Originally, I was the one accused of being full of hate, but now I see that you have far surpassed me on that level. I knew it was only a matter of time before your proper nature came out. Strange isn’t it that in today’s coffee-coloured culture, if you want to assert influence, you are no longer required to win an argument or build a constituency of support; you merely have to say you’re right and are acting out of ‘conscience’ for the oppressed of the world – in your case the poor blacks of the world.
Get over yourself.


Judge Dread, why the f**k do you insist upon coming back? You're a white supremacist, for crying out loud. WTF are you doing on a Brazilian message board? The very fact that you ARE here proves you're obsessed with throwing your goddamn weight around.

Speak of the devil--you think you are acting out of conscience for the downtrodden, angry white male whose voice, somehow, isn't heard in today's "liberal"(non-Nazi) media. :smilies/smiley.gif You don't even know what the f**k you are talking about. WHAT "coffee-colored culture"? You are pulling ideas and "facts" out of your ass, pal. GWB and all his honky friends don't use "arguements" or "reason" to assert themselves--they simply drop bombs, like Nixon, Reagan, Hitler, Stalin, Kaiser Wilhelm, etc., and all the others. All of them, by the way, were white men. History shows that the most unreasonable people in the world historically have either been WHITE or WHITE-INFLUENCED--like your pal Mugg-a-bee.
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written by a guest, July 21, 2006
To lord invader:

So....this is the case eh? "MY point was that these Zimbabewans were conditioned by British thinking"

The exploitation of those "so-intelligent" Africans...must have been so hard for all of them. Those poor intellectuals being "conditioned" by the British. Those brits must have been so bright..."conditioning" such an otherwise upwardly mobile culture...
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written by Lord Invader, July 21, 2006
The exploitation of those "so-intelligent" Africans...must have been so hard for all of them. Those poor intellectuals being "conditioned" by the British. Those brits must have been so bright..."conditioning" such an otherwise upwardly mobile culture...

What is it with you f**king British?

You're just pissed off because the whole world won't suck your dick anymore, so you take your anger out on a BRAZILIAN message board--which, by the way, has nothing whatever to do with Zimbabwe.

BTW your post made absolutely no sense whatever. smilies/tongue.gif
inventions?
written by freelebanon, July 29, 2006
wow!...blacks vs. whites? who invented what? hate to be the bearer of bad new, but whites and chinese practically invented everything. the websites that show blacks invented everything from the internet to the comb are BS.garrett morgan was 55 yeasr late inventing the traffic light. charles drew was 22 yeasr and 191 transfusions late in discovering blood plasma. willis carrier (white) invented the air conditioner (i don't recall syracuse playing in the jonesdome) and pierre-charles l'enfant created the layout of washington dc. the list of black inventions is like me saying i waxed my car therefore i invented the automobile. with the world like it is today a good analogy of blacks would be like a poor kid from the sticks getting a free scholorship to harvard. having done nothing notable in his past to show and surrounded intellectuals, wanting so bad to fit in and feel equal, would make stuff up. not even realizing that he's too stupid to know that everything he says can be easily discredited because he's surrounded by people that can read history. oh and by the way....the internet was invented by joseph carl robnett licklider (white).
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written by Lord Invader, July 29, 2006
wow!...blacks vs. whites? who invented what? hate to be the bearer of bad new, but whites and chinese practically invented everything. the websites that show blacks invented everything from the internet to the comb are BS.garrett morgan was 55 yeasr late inventing the traffic light. charles drew was 22 yeasr and 191 transfusions late in discovering blood plasma. willis carrier (white) invented the air conditioner (i don't recall syracuse playing in the jonesdome) and pierre-charles l'enfant created the layout of washington dc. the list of black inventions is like me saying i waxed my car therefore i invented the automobile. with the world like it is today a good analogy of blacks would be like a poor kid from the sticks getting a free scholorship to harvard. having done nothing notable in his past to show and surrounded intellectuals, wanting so bad to fit in and feel equal, would make stuff up. not even realizing that he's too stupid to know that everything he says can be easily discredited because he's surrounded by people that can read history. oh and by the way....the internet was invented by joseph carl robnett licklider (white).

Translation: I'm a flabby, middle-aged white male who failed to get a blowjob in Rio--and so now, I come on the Brazzil.com message board whining about "n****rs" and how they supposedly created "nothing." smilies/grin.gif
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written by freelebanon, July 29, 2006
wrong. wrong. wrong. right. wrong. right. wrong. and wrong. so another itelligent one. 25% test score. no surprise....you flunked.
"the two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity."
On myth, superstition and ignorance
written by Richard V., July 31, 2006
As a black american who actually reads books, newspapers, watches PBS and the Discovery Channel, there actually is a book that adequately explains the "whites and white skinned people invented everything" bulls**t. That book is called "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond, a real scholar and not a bulls**tter. To sum up his argument, you whites got lucky. You lived in a region of the world where the climate was such that you got a food surplus. That food surplus increased your populations, and allowed for specialization of labor (which created more scholars, merchants, scientists, soldiers to conquer the world etc...) Other regions of the world with similar climates saw similar more technological advances.
Many parts of Africa never got the food surplus because the climate was tougher...so more people in an african village were required to focus on feeding the population. They did not have as many folks available to do the things that allow for a society to advance technologically. Why do you think the world's earliest civilizations often arose near the the temperate Near East region? Why do you think no people, even your precious whites, succeeded in establishing bustling civilizations where climates were too extreme like the Sahara (too hot and dry), the Amazon Forest (too rainy) or the South Pole (too cold). When whites from Southern Africa tried to push too far northward into the heart of the African continent and establish farmimg settlements, the African environment kicked their asses in and they were forced to retreat back to the more temperate Southern African region (where they remain today). European slave traders had to remain on the coast of West Africa because if they pushed too far inland they knew they would drop dead like flies.

In 1940, 80% of black americans lived below the poverty line. Today, 80 % live above it and a majority are now in the middle class. They are roughly the same size in population as white nations like Poland, Argentina and Ukraine yet have more wealth than each of those nations (and a much lower poverty rate than Argentina, considered the most economically developed South American society). They are almost equal in wealth to countries like Brazil and Russia despite the fact these countries have many times more people than the African American population. Imagine how much wealthier they would be if they did not have to face discrimination, the legacy of slavery, etc... I am not making this up; I can refer you to the site if need be that states these facts. So get over yourselves white folks. And Brazilians, you will never get more people to respect you until you start liking yourselves (i.e., stop hiding your African heritage).
Good afternoon and good luck.
Don\'t forget Songhai
written by Lord Invader, August 01, 2006
Many parts of Africa never got the food surplus because the climate was tougher...so more people in an african village were required to focus on feeding the population. They did not have as many folks available to do the things that allow for a society to advance technologically. Why do you think the world's earliest civilizations often arose near the the temperate Near East region? Why do you think no people, even your precious whites, succeeded in establishing bustling civilizations where climates were too extreme like the Sahara (too hot and dry), the Amazon Forest (too rainy) or the South Pole (too cold). When whites from Southern Africa tried to push too far northward into the heart of the African continent and establish farmimg settlements, the African environment kicked their asses in and they were forced to retreat back to the more temperate Southern African region (where they remain today). European slave traders had to remain on the coast of West Africa because if they pushed too far inland they knew they would drop dead like flies.


Even so, in West Africa there arose Mali, Songhai, etc., and one of the most literate, sophisticated societies seen before the 1600s.
Good Point
written by Richard V., August 04, 2006
You're right, I was just responding to the issue of why some parts of Africa were less technologically or economically developed. In addition to Mali and Songhai there was also Ancient Ghana, Kanem Bornu, in Southern Africa Ancient Zimbabwe and before all of them Ancient Kush and Ancient Axum. Upper or Southern Egyptians were what we would call black people and of course had a role in developing Egyptian society. The ancient greeks, well before the era of modern European racism had no problem crediting the Egyptians with much of what the greeks knew.
Remember race is really a social term and you see evidence of this at sites like this and elsewhere. There are white supremacists doing their best to have East Africans like Ehthiopians, Somalians and Sudanese (the descendants of the Ancient Kus**tes) as "black-skinned caucasians" so they can assert that no black race can ever claim credit for accomplishing anything positive in history.
We\'re all the same ANYWAY.
written by Yawn, August 30, 2006
I'm not brazilian but I thought a lot of Brazilians had african ancestry.

Look at Ronaldinho. Adriano. Robinho.

And we're all human, and we all originated from Africa, so theirs no point in argueing.

We all know that whatever potential the continent of Africa had was abruptly eliminated by the Europeans. Most of the countries have to start from scratch now, and have to rebuild their culture and so forth. So, in respect to that, I feel everyone should contribute just to make sure that another part of human history is preserved in that continent, and not just in the other continents that people have moved too. smilies/grin.gif
To Heitor
written by Telma, May 24, 2009

"THEY SHOULD WORK MORE, PARTY LESS"
Poor sad sack... does ur mama not let u party is it????

smilies/grin.gif feel sorry for u...
Bahia is the best of Brazil!

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